Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2013-01-01 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: flatfile lookups are 2-4ms with hot cache. How much faster is the db option? I guess it depends on the implementation and how close is the system's

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2013-01-01 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: You realize that files are cached in RAM right? Yes, I know how operating systems work. More than likely those pages are always in cache. Did you read my reply at all? You are assuming ideal conditions (enough free RAM),

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2013-01-01 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Doug Goldstein car...@gentoo.org wrote: You realize that files are cached in RAM right? Yes, I know how operating systems work. More than likely those pages are always in cache. Did you read

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2013-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 31 December 2012 18:23:06 Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they worked:

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2013-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 29 December 2012 20:24:16 Mike Frysinger wrote: rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? i'm making it into a USE flag for glibc-2.17 and it's easiest for me to do IUSE=nscd which means it'd default to off. sounds like people can handle this, so i've added it to 2.17

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: because i suspect it's dead weight for most people, especially desktop users. Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they worked:

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they worked: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432020

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Maxim Kammerer m...@dee.su wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they worked:

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: flatfile lookups are 2-4ms with hot cache. How much faster is the db option? I guess it depends on the implementation and how close is the system's operational situation to an ideal one (whether swap started thrashing, etc.).

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Weber x...@gentoo.org wrote: On 12/30/2012 02:24 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? I use it for some pam_ldap machines ... it'd default to off. fine with me, I'll turn it on / need it for `ls -l /home`

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? i'm making it into a USE flag for glibc-2.17 and it's easiest for me to do IUSE=nscd which means it'd default to off. -mike To be fair, in my large enterprise

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-30 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 30/12/2012 02:24, Mike Frysinger wrote: rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? i'm making it into a USE flag for glibc-2.17 and it's easiest for me to do IUSE=nscd which means it'd default to off. I use it on my servers, but I'm fine with turning it on myself. You still

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-30 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 30 December 2012 03:46:01 Alec Warner wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? i'm making it into a USE flag for glibc-2.17 and it's easiest for me to do IUSE=nscd which means it'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-30 Thread Maxim Kammerer
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: because i suspect it's dead weight for most people, especially desktop users. Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they worked: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432020

[gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? i'm making it into a USE flag for glibc-2.17 and it's easiest for me to do IUSE=nscd which means it'd default to off. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-29 Thread Michael Weber
On 12/30/2012 02:24 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? I use it for some pam_ldap machines ... it'd default to off. fine with me, I'll turn it on / need it for `ls -l /home` not taking ages. -- Michael Weber Gentoo Developer web: https://xmw.de/

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-29 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 12/29/12 5:24 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? i'm making it into a USE flag for glibc-2.17 and it's easiest for me to do IUSE=nscd which means it'd default to off. If you want, you can still enable the nscd USE flag in the profile so it is