Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-14 Thread Francesco R.
Il 14/11/2013 05:38, Johann Schmitz ha scritto: long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a client. Updating from old portage versions or profiles isn't fun but it basically boils down to

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-14 Thread Francesco R.
Il 13/11/2013 20:12, Rich Freeman ha scritto: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com wrote: long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a client. Why not keep a copy on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-14 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:12:24 -0500 schrieb Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com wrote: long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com wrote: Rich, that made me smile, none of my remote machine has cvs since a _very_ long time say 2006. We are speaking of box that have troubles to emerging anything new, plus me and most of the internet barely remember cvs up :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/11/13 08:19 AM, Lars Wendler wrote: Once you go the route to use mirror://gentoo in ebuilds as SRC_URI people are screwed as soon as the ebuild vanishes from portage. I'd love to see this (mis-)behavior being more vigorously

[gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Francesco R.
long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a client. Why not keep a copy on the servers? I mean http://distfiles.gentoo.org/snapshots/ thanks, Francesco Riosa

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com wrote: long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a client. Why not keep a copy on the servers? I mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/13/2013 01:58 PM, Francesco R. wrote: long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a client. Why not keep a copy on the servers? I mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2013.11.13 19:12, Rich Freeman wrote: [snip] Going back in time with portage is the easy part - it is in CVS. The real problem is all the distfiles themselves, especially things like out-of-tree patch tarballs hosted by devs. Rich Rich, The GPL obliges us to keep such patches

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: The GPL obliges us to keep such patches around for three years, iirc. Don't we do that ? Why? We own the copyright on the patches (to whatever degree that they're copyrightable), so we don't need a license to

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 14:12:24 -0500 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Francesco R. viv...@gmail.com wrote: long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a

Re: [gentoo-dev] keep a gen 2013 snapshot on mirrors

2013-11-13 Thread Johann Schmitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 long story short having a portage-20130126.tar.bz2 snapshot (before the EAPI 5 switch) greatly simplified the upgrade of an old server on a client. I have done the switch to the current profile+portage on many server recently and i don't think