Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 07/02/2014 13:54, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 10:44:16 [snip] I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are only few people who have any idea about the current profile structure...

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
On 07/03/2014 08:18 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: On 07/02/2014 13:54, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 10:44:16 [snip] I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are only few people who have any

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-07-03, o godz. 02:18:23 Joshua Kinard ku...@gentoo.org napisał(a): [...] And so on. The goal was to have profiles/ be extremely flat, with limited nesting only for categorization purposes. Each component would contain all of the information specific to that component, and rely on

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 07/03/2014 03:32, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2014-07-03, o godz. 02:18:23 Joshua Kinard ku...@gentoo.org napisał(a): [...] And so on. The goal was to have profiles/ be extremely flat, with limited nesting only for categorization purposes. Each component would contain all of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Joshua Kinard
On 07/03/2014 03:00, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: On 07/03/2014 08:18 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: On 07/02/2014 13:54, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 10:44:16 [snip] I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current profiles.

Re: Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch 02 Juli 2014, 15:07:12 schrieb Anthony G. Basile: I don't know how to get from here to there. The problem isn't just constructing an alternative profile tree. We could even have /usr/portage/profiles-r2 and switch between the two on demand. The problem is there's a lot of

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 03/07/14 04:47 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: On 07/03/2014 03:00, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: On 07/03/2014 08:18 AM, Joshua Kinard wrote: On 07/02/2014 13:54, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 10:44:16 [snip] I don't feel like

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:41:03 -0400 Rick \Zero_Chaos\ Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: I've talked to the funtoo devs a few times about stealing their profile idea. A few things need to be done to make this happen, mainly eselect, catalyst, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote: Did the Funtoo devs tell you that they don't run repoman because of the explosive set of possible combinations that flavors mix-ins introduce? Having it run over them should be easy; but having it run within a reasonable

[gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread William Hubbs
All, I'm moving to a new thread since the discussion has moved away from just a sub profile for no-multilib. On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:30:50AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Andreas K. Huettel dilfri...@gentoo.org wrote: Am Mittwoch 25 Juni 2014, 15:11:40

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-07-02, o godz. 10:44:16 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org napisał(a): All, I'm moving to a new thread since the discussion has moved away from just a sub profile for no-multilib. On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 09:30:50AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 4:01 PM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are only few people who have any idea about the current profile structure... No argument

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/02/14 14:10, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are only few people who have any idea about the current

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: Shallow profiles avoid this. Also features avoid this (the closest thing we have to mix-ins) provided they operate on a set of flags/packages orthogonal to the rest of the stack. You then have shallow base and you

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most of the current profiles. And I'm afraid there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 07/02/14 14:41, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: I don't feel like we ought to vote on something like this without understanding most

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 03:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 07/02/14 14:41, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/02/2014 02:10 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Michał Górny

Re: [gentoo-dev] new profile layout with flavors and mix-ins

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina zeroch...@gentoo.org wrote: On 07/02/2014 03:07 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: I don't know how to get from here to there. The problem isn't just constructing an alternative profile tree. We could even have /usr/portage/profiles-r2 and