Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-28 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2012.07.27 03:37, Duncan wrote: [snip] Not that such promises hold much credibility anyway... see the kde promise (from Aaron S when he was president of KDE e.v. so as credible a spokesperson as it gets) continued kde3 support as long as there were users. (AFAIK, at least gnome

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-28 Thread Peter Stuge
Duncan wrote: the responsibility of whatever organization to either follow thru or repudiate, as it's the reputation and credibility of that organization on the line if they don't. I think it's unreasonable to expect any third party to accept responsibility for a receiver which is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-27 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:49:04PM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: [ snip ] 9) Otherwise, at very minimum, they're failing the build udev pretty much the same as before ./configure make make install You fail to see

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: [ snip ] 9) Otherwise, at very minimum, they're failing the build udev pretty much the same as before ./configure make make install You fail to see the matter from their POV. They don't care (that much) about building, because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Michał Górny
On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 08:27:48 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Michał Górny posted on Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:15:10 +0200 as excerpted: On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:50 +0800 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: When upstream moved the udev sources to the systemd repo, they

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's no need to build systemd, than what it requires is irrelevant. I think this discussion is getting sidetracked. This didn't start out as a discussion about whether

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/07/12 06:40 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's no need to build systemd, than what it requires is irrelevant. I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/07/12 06:40 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 4:27 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Being able to choose not to run systemd at all? If there's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of work into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for udev. There's been a good deal of success there, up to and including it working with GNOME 2. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of work into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for udev. There's been a good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: virtual/libudev

2012-07-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:49:18AM -0400, Michael Mol wrote Walter Dnes (very active over in gentoo-user) has put a lot of work into testing and documenting mdev as an alternative for udev. There's been a good deal of success there, up to and including it working with GNOME 2. The work's been