This should be the final version of the news item. If no one has any
issues, I will push it on 27-Sep utc.
Thanks,
William
Title: Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs
Author: William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
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Posted: 2013-09-27
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All,
I missed a message on this thread some how, thanks to tomwij for
pointing this out.
Here is the final version of the news item.
Let me know if you have any issues. Otherwise this will be pushed on
27-Sep.
Thanks,
William
Title: Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs
Author: William
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:03 AM, JD Horelick jdho...@gmail.com wrote:
My only issue here is that I feel like we should give users a bit longer
than one month (34 days, close enough) to make this change. In some cases,
it may require a large, architectural change which may take a while to be
On 11:03 Thu 26 Sep , JD Horelick wrote:
My only issue here is that I feel like we should give users a bit longer
than one month (34 days, close enough) to make this change. In some cases,
it may require a large, architectural change which may take a while to be
engineered and organized.
William Hubbs schrieb:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
Makes me wonder if the Why? question should be left unanswered; I'm
also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the actual
problem be summarized in one short clear sentence at all?
I will try,
On 25/09/13 11:06, Thomas Sachau wrote:
William Hubbs schrieb:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
Makes me wonder if the Why? question should be left unanswered; I'm
also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the actual
problem be summarized in one
Dnia 2013-09-25, o godz. 10:06:43
Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org napisał(a):
William Hubbs schrieb:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
Makes me wonder if the Why? question should be left unanswered; I'm
also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:35 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
What about busybox[sep-usr]? Is that still supported or is everyone with
separate /usr forced to use an initramfs?
I'd say it's supported as long as it gives a compatible end result.
I suspect that the number of cases
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William Hubbs schrieb:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
Makes me wonder if the Why? question should be left unanswered;
I'm also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the
actual problem be summarized in
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks a
one-sentence answering the Why would be a good idea to have in the
news item, so users that don't have a clue on all of these sep-/usr
issues will get an
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On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org
wrote:
William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks
a one-sentence answering the Why would be a good idea to have
in
On 25/09/2013 16:51, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote:
William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks a
one-sentence answering the Why would be a good idea to have in the
news item, so users that don't have a clue on
Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:05:24 schrieb Ian Stakenvicius:
On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org
wrote:
William, I think what Tom was mentioning here is that he thinks
a one-sentence answering the Why would
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On 25/09/13 11:27 AM, Sven Eden wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:05:24 schrieb Ian
Stakenvicius:
On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
a...@gentoo.org
wrote:
William, I think
Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:39:20 schrieb Ian Stakenvicius:
On 25/09/13 11:27 AM, Sven Eden wrote:
Am Mittwoch, 25. September 2013, 11:05:24 schrieb Ian
Stakenvicius:
On 25/09/13 10:51 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Ian Stakenvicius
a...@gentoo.org
All,
here is my latest update, again based on feedback from the list.
It seems a bit long to me, but I'm not sure how to make it any shorter
if we include the information about why this is happening.
Thoughts?
William
Title: Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs
Author: William Hubbs
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On 25/09/13 03:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
Due to many upstream changes, properly supporting Linux systems
that have /usr missing at boot time has become increasingly
difficult. Despite all our efforts, it already breaks in some
exotic
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 03:19:00PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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On 25/09/13 03:16 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
Due to many upstream changes, properly supporting Linux systems
that have /usr missing at boot time has become increasingly
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:16 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
It seems a bit long to me, but I'm not sure how to make it any shorter
if we include the information about why this is happening.
I would use the newspaper article approach - put the most important
and actionable material
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:37:34 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:16 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
wrote:
It seems a bit long to me, but I'm not sure how to make it any
shorter if we include the information about why this is happening.
I would use
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:43:22 -0500
William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote:
Title: Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs
Author: William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2013-09-27
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
In the meeting on 24-Sep-2013, the Gentoo
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Tom Wijsman tom...@gentoo.org wrote:
So, something along the lines of:
Linux systems with /usr on a separate file system that do not use
an initramfs will become unsupported, starting on 01-Nov-2013.
++
Then go on like:
This decision has been
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:57:22 -0400
Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:
Then go on like:
This decision has been taken because of [problem]; you can read
more about that in [article/mail references].
--
I wouldn't go too much into the why. I'd focus on the what and in
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote:
Makes me wonder if the Why? question should be left unanswered; I'm
also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the actual
problem be summarized in one short clear sentence at all?
I will try, but not in this thread. I
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