[gentoo-dev] Re: [QA] RESTRICT clean up

2007-07-02 Thread Piotr Jaroszyński
On Sunday 01 of July 2007 01:35:58 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
 2) clean up: we want to do global tree clean up after 1) is resolved, nofoo
 - foo, rest of the invalid values die.
This is being done NOW.

btw. note that RESTRICT=debug? ( strip ) doesn't make sense.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/nologin, app-office/facturalux, x11-themes/jimmac-xcursors

2007-07-02 Thread Victor Barba

Hola Raúl,


Nosaltres fem servir facturalux+gentoo aquí a la feina, pero obviament no la
versió del portage que està totalment obsoleta.

Si fessim lesforç de refer el ebuild, mantindries el paquet viu?

Saluts,
Victor

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-admin/nologin, app-office/facturalux, x11-themes/jimmac-xcursors

2007-07-02 Thread Jakub Moc
Victor Barba napsal(a):
 Hola Raúl,
  
  
 Nosaltres fem servir facturalux+gentoo aquí a la feina, pero obviament
 no la versió del portage que està totalment obsoleta.
  
 Si fessim lesforç de refer el ebuild, mantindries el paquet viu?
  
 Saluts,
 Victor

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[gentoo-dev] cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Vieri Di Paola
Hi.

How can one avoid cyclic dependencies in custom
ebuilds?

eg.
soft1.ebuild DEPENDs on soft2
but 
soft2.ebuild also DEPENDs on soft1
(both packages are required; none of the two works
alone so it wouldn't make sense to install just one)

Is there a function that can be used to check whether
a certain package+version has already been emerged?



   

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[gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Vieri Di Paola [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Is there a function that can be used to check whether
 a certain package+version has already been emerged?

 has_version, but in what way do they depend on each other?  Is a
PDEPEND possible?

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[gentoo-dev] Last rite: media-sound/bitscope

2007-07-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Vieri Di Paola

--- Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Vieri Di Paola [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Is there a function that can be used to check
 whether
  a certain package+version has already been
 emerged?
 
  has_version, but in what way do they depend on each
 other?  Is a
 PDEPEND possible?

I'm not an experienced ebuild scripter.
I only knew of RDEPEND and DEPEND.
Now I'm reading this on PDEPEND:
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/dependencies/index.html

The two software packages depend at run-time.
I'll try PDEPEND.
Thank you.


   

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
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Vieri Di Paola wrote:
 The two software packages depend at run-time.

then they can simply RDEPEND on eachother. The package manager should do the
right thing.

Questions like this one are best asked in #gentoo-dev-help IRC channel,

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Inotify and (f)crontabs

2007-07-02 Thread Daniel Schömer
Hi!

Ryan Reich wrote:
  On 7/1/07, Daniel Schömer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 $ sudo fcrontab -l systab
 [...]
 %hourly  0-30  run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly
 %daily   * *   run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
 [...]
 Thanks for sharing this.  [...] This is a more elegant solution
 than the run-crons method, though it doesn't have quite the
 same effect as instructing cron to actually run each command
 separately (their outputs will be mailed in conglomerate,
 rather than one mail per periodic program.  This is, according
 to your preferences, either a bug or a feature.

I have never really thought about the combined mails.  I'm using
this on my desktop with only a few scripts in
/etc/cron.{h,d,w,m}*/.  Thinking about it now, I would prefer one
mail per script.  At least when there are more than just a few
scripts run by cron.

I can't see an elegant way implementing this directly in fcron.
A modified version of run-parts that's capable of mailing the
output of each script (or all in conglomerate if specified) to
the runnig user (or a specified account) may do.

 Less ambiguously a bug, though, is that the syslog will only
 record running run-parts and not which parts were run).

Would it be sufficient to let this also be done by run-parts?
Then there would be records of fcron starting run-parts and
records of run-parts starting each script.

 Have you any thoughts on what to do with check_system_crontabs?
 Its schedule is inherently reactive and not periodic, so
 really, administering it with (f)cron at all is a logical
 error.  That's why I suggested inotify in the first place.

I must say, I can't remember that I've seen check_system_crontabs
on my desktop; maybe I just suppressed it :-).  Now that I think
of it, I'm remembering an elog message from the fcron ebuild
telling me to use the fcrontab systab for system-wide jobs
instead of /etc/{f,}crontab.

Using inotify sounds more logical for me than using (f)cron for
this.

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emacs/ognus

2007-07-02 Thread Ulrich Mueller
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[gentoo-dev] Last rite: media-libs/allegromp3

2007-07-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Vieri Di Paola

--- Marijn Schouten (hkBst) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Vieri Di Paola wrote:
  The two software packages depend at run-time.
 
 then they can simply RDEPEND on eachother. The
 package manager should do the
 right thing.

No, it reports a cyclic dependency.

 Questions like this one are best asked in
 #gentoo-dev-help IRC channel,

I currently don't have an IRC client and am not really
used to using them, especially without X.
Anyway, I guess I'll end up connecting some day.

Thanks for your time.



  

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[gentoo-dev] Last rite: x11-misc/ntodo

2007-07-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
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2007-07-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
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[gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Torsten Veller
Let me paste last year's mail:

| well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating people 
| for the next Gentoo Council
| 
| for the quick low down:
|  - nominations are from July 1 through July 31
|  - anyone can nominate
|  - only Gentoo devs may be nominated
| 
| so get with the nominating people !
| 
| for the full details, check out the Council homepage:
| http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/#doc_chap6

Have fun and good luck :)
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Torsten Veller
Let me nominate the current council members:

Mike Doty  kingtaco
Danny van Dyk  kugelfang
Roy Marplesuberlord
Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen  jaervosz
Robin H. Johnson   robbat2
Mike Frysinger vapier
Chris Gianelloni   wolf31o2

Say YES or NO.
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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Stefan Schweizer

A good time for a fresh wind in the Gentoo world :)

nominating:

betelgeuse
dberkholz
jokey

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Peter Weller
I nominate...

Uberlord
tomk
taviso

kthx.

(And no, I don't think there's a reason why they're all brits)


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[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Markus Ullmann
nominating:

welp
taviso

others are nominated already ;)

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[gentoo-dev] Last rite: x11-misc/gclipper

2007-07-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Markus Ullmann
Markus Ullmann schrieb:
 nominating:
 others are nominated already ;)

d'oh, forgot fellow

dertobi123

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Mike Doty
Thorsten Veller wrote:
 Let me nominate the current council members:
 
 Mike Doty  kingtaco
 Danny van Dyk  kugelfang
 Roy Marplesuberlord
 Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen  jaervosz
 Robin H. Johnson robbat2
 Mike Frysinger   vapier
 Chris Gianelloni wolf31o2
 
 Say YES or NO.
Thanks for the nomination, but I'm not interested in another year on the 
council.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Stefan Schweizer kirjoitti:
 A good time for a fresh wind in the Gentoo world :)
 
 nominating:
 
 betelgeuse

\o/

Yea. Somebody likes me or maybe it's just a clever plot done by the
people pulling the strings? I want to be absolutely corrupted, so I accept.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Raúl Porcel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Davide Cendron
I vote for these brave devs:

jokey
betelgeuse
vapier
wolf31o2
genstef
dberkholz
nightmorph

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Petteri Räty
Davide Cendron kirjoitti:
 I vote for these brave devs:
 

Votes happen next month :) You can nominate if you want of course.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Davide Cendron
Il Tuesday 03 July 2007 00:32:08 Davide Cendron ha scritto:
 I vote for these brave devs:

 jokey
 betelgeuse
 vapier
 wolf31o2
 genstef
 dberkholz
 nightmorph

 Bye,

Oooppsss...

s/vote for/nominate

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:10:03PM +0200, Torsten Veller wrote:
 Robin H. Johnson robbat2

No, unfortunately I don't have time to run again. My job has required
ever-increasing amounts of my time. Even my commit stats show just how
much I'm being pressured lately.

Of the tree signing stuff that I originally ran to work on, here's the
CVS space I was working on it.

http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/users/robbat2/tree-signing-gleps/

A short status report on it:
00 - summary, and review of past attempts - needs techreview + copyedit, but 
completed.
04 - Manifest2 hashes - I believe that the Portage codebase has moved on, more 
might work.
01 - Distribution process security - needs content polishing and review.
02 - Developer security - lots of work here, this part will probably
 never happen. Probably should just drop.
03 - GnuPG Policies - nothing done yet, but this is mainly a summary of
 some of the list posts from last year.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Vlastimil Babka
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Ryan Hill wrote:
 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
 Vieri Di Paola wrote:
 The two software packages depend at run-time.
 then they can simply RDEPEND on eachother. The package manager should do the
 right thing.
 
 It doesn't.  See freetype which requires =fontconfig-2.3 at runtime
 which in turn requires freetype at runtime.  Bug #179736.

I think the problem is that fontconfig has freetype not just in RDEPEND
but also DEPEND (see how in the emerge error output one dep is reported
as medium and the other as hard). Which is interpreted as 'needed at
build time in working state, thus with all its RDEPENDs (which includes
satisfied', creating the circular deps.
So, just RDEPEND on each other should be fine (at least in recent
portage, I think older ones treated RDEPEND and DEPEND the same). But if
one package has DEPEND, the other one needs PDEPEND.

P.S. I think the solution with PDEPEND is wrong for bug 179736. If I
understand it correctly, then freetype-2.2 doesn't NEED
=fontconfig-2.4, but, if installed, will crash older versions. Then
there should be a blocker on fontconfig-2.4 in freetype. I think
portage handles that correctly since some point. And if not, it should :)
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-02 Thread Torsten Veller
* Raúl Porcel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 - -tove

No, thanks. Not my job.
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