[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for December

2007-12-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder !  Same bat time (typically
the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel
(#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) !

If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
vote on, let us know !  Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
Gentoo dev list to see.

Keep in mind that every GLEP *re*submission to the council for review
must first be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list 7 days (minimum)
before being submitted as an agenda item which itself occurs 7 days
before the meeting.  Simply put, the gentoo-dev mailing list must be
notified at least 14 days before the meeting itself.

For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/
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Re: [gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-12-01 Thread Jan Kundrát
Robin H. Johnson wrote:
 My quote was from the first sentence of RFC1738, sec 3.3 (HTTP), para 4.

Missed that, sorry.

 Redirecting clients to new URLs would give you perfect caching as well.
 That's why I say i'm willing to do redirection at the cache level.
 I do NOT want lots of users with old links to hit the actually web application
 if it's just going to redirect all of them to a page that is already in the
 cache.

I thought you were doing caching/redirects on a service that sits before
the real webapp .

 - The old parsing and variable usage code was the source of multiple
   bugs as well as the security issue that shuttered the site.
 Only because it passed the raw, unescaped values directly to shell,
 which is of course badly broken.
 Have a look at the recent discussion about HTML5 issues
 (http://www.crockford.com/html/), which also applies to web applications:
 HTML 5 is strict in the formulation of HTML entities. In the past, some
 browsers have been too forgiving of malformed entities, exposing users to
 security exploits. Browsers should not perform heroics to try to make bad
 content displayable. Such heroics result in security vulnerabilities.

I can't follow this one -- how are broken browsers related to
non-standard URLs? Why is an attempt to invent a competitive standard to
XHTML related to URLs?

 Now that's something that sound reasonable. Why limit the period and
 don't provide it forever?
 Time limited to force everybody to move over, and to not have to support
 the redirections for the old version of the site forever, when they
 weren't advertised as permanent URLs.

My question could be re-phrased as why don't keep those redirects, but
you did the work, so you decide how to run it and I have no problems
with that :).

 I did a quick hack up of some statistics, and I see that only 6.7% (5001 out 
 of
 (69434+5001)) of the overall visitors were arriving at the old locations and
 not receiving the content they were originally interested in.

Fine with me, thanks for your answers and all the work.

Cheers,
-jkt

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-mobilephone/gammu: ChangeLog gammu-1.15.0.ebuild

2007-12-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 09:36 Sat 01 Dec , Alin Nastac (mrness) wrote:
 1.1  app-mobilephone/gammu/gammu-1.15.0.ebuild
 
 file : 
 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-mobilephone/gammu/gammu-1.15.0.ebuild?rev=1.1view=markup
 plain: 
 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/app-mobilephone/gammu/gammu-1.15.0.ebuild?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain

 my_use_with() {
   local WITH_PREFIX
   if [ -n ${2} ]; then
   WITH_PREFIX=-DWITH_${2}
   else
   WITH_PREFIX=-DWITH_${1}
   fi
   if use $1 ; then
   echo ${WITH_PREFIX}=ON
   else
   echo ${WITH_PREFIX}=OFF
   fi
 }

Seems like you're duplicating functionality of cmake-utils.eclass. Might 
want to use that instead.

Thanks,
Donnie
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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/rsync: ChangeLog rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild

2007-12-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:56 Sat 01 Dec , Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
 1.1  net-misc/rsync/rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild
 
 file : 
 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-misc/rsync/rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild?rev=1.1view=markup
 plain: 
 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-misc/rsync/rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain

   $(use_enable acl acl-support) \
   $(use_enable acl xattr-support) \

We have a separate global xattr flag that could be used here.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/rsync: ChangeLog rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild

2007-12-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 11:48 Sat 01 Dec , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 On 17:56 Sat 01 Dec , Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote:
  1.1  net-misc/rsync/rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild
  
  file : 
  http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-misc/rsync/rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild?rev=1.1view=markup
  plain: 
  http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/net-misc/rsync/rsync-2.6.9-r5.ebuild?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain
 
  $(use_enable acl acl-support) \
  $(use_enable acl xattr-support) \
 
 We have a separate global xattr flag that could be used here.

... And I see that the 3.x ebuild already does so, but the 2.x ones don't.

Thanks,
Donnie
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[gentoo-dev] Userinfo cleanups, and automatic generation

2007-12-01 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi everybody,

Phreak and myself have been working on the data cleanups needed to get
userinfo.xml generation fully automated from LDAP - we're very close
now, just polishing data to that no old data gets used when we go live.

I'm looking for verification/correctness of the following information
(see the attached diff, and respond if you know the answer).

dju - GPG key
joem- GPG key, location
jrinkovs- surname
lordvan - location
maedhros- GPG key
markusle- roles, location
mjc - join date
taviso  - GPG key
wrobel  - GPG key

Also at that time, I'd like to find non-Gentoo addresses for all retired
developers (needed for another upcoming project).

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+++ userinfo.xml2007-12-01 21:16:30.0 +
@@ -1753,7 +1753,7 @@
   firstnameJulien/firstname
   familynameAllanos/familyname
 /realname
-pgpkey0x1EC6C6C2/pgpkey
+pgpkey0x3CA91F19/pgpkey
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 joined15 June 2005/joined
@@ -3182,11 +3182,11 @@
   firstnameJoe/firstname
   familynameMcCann/familyname
 /realname
-pgpkey0xBEE5CD74/pgpkey
+pgpkey0x1B1E9741/pgpkey
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 joined29 November 2004/joined
 rolesGnome/roles
-location latitude=39.16 longitude=-86.529167Bloomington, 
Indiana/location
+location longitude=-86.529167 latitude=39.16Illinois, 
USA/location
   /user
   user username=johnm
 realname fullname=John Mylchreest
@@ -3259,9 +3259,9 @@
 rolesppc64, releng/roles
   /user
   user username=jrinkovs
-realname fullname=Joe Rinkovsky
+realname fullname=Joe Rinkovski
   firstnameJoe/firstname
-  familynameRinkovsky/familyname
+  familynameRinkovski/familyname
 /realname
 pgpkey0x86E1E83A/pgpkey
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
@@ -3917,7 +3917,7 @@
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 joined04 December 2002/joined
 rolesDVB, net-print and Python/roles
-location longitude=-0.6934 latitude=52.3029Wellingborough, 
UK/location
+location longitude=16 latitude=48.201Austria/location
   /user
   user username=lostlogic
 realname fullname=Brandon Low
@@ -4029,7 +4029,7 @@
   firstnameJonathan/firstname
   familynameCoome/familyname
 /realname
-pgpkey0x848970C5/pgpkey
+pgpkey0xA46E5974/pgpkey
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 joined26 July 2005/joined
 rolesForums/roles
@@ -4150,8 +4150,8 @@
 pgpkey0x08FD678F/pgpkey
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 joined31 October 2005/joined
-rolesScientific Gentoo/roles
-locationPittsburgh, PA/location
+rolesScientific Computing/roles
+locationChampaign, Illinois/location
   /user
   user username=martigen
 realname fullname=Ashton Mills
@@ -4414,7 +4414,7 @@
 /realname
 pgpkey/
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
-joined/
+joined?? January 2001/joined
 statusretired/status
 rolesKernel/roles
 locationFlorida, USA/location
@@ -6414,7 +6414,7 @@
   firstnameTavis/firstname
   familynameOrmandy/familyname
 /realname
-pgpkey0x2690FD71/pgpkey
+pgpkey0x05FF73D8/pgpkey
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 joined/
 rolesGentoo/Alpha, Security/roles
@@ -7138,7 +7138,7 @@
   firstnameGunnar/firstname
   familynameWrobel/familyname
 /realname
-pgpkey0x970343BE/pgpkey
+pgpkey0x809BEB4B/pgpkey
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/email
 joined27 December 2005/joined


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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-tv/freevo: ChangeLog freevo-1.7.4.ebuild freevo-1.6.1.ebuild freevo-1.5.4-r2.ebuild freevo-1.6.0.ebuild

2007-12-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 21:04 Sat 01 Dec , Robert Buchholz (rbu) wrote:
 1.1  media-tv/freevo/freevo-1.7.4.ebuild
 
 file : 
 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-tv/freevo/freevo-1.7.4.ebuild?rev=1.1view=markup
 plain: 
 http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-tv/freevo/freevo-1.7.4.ebuild?rev=1.1content-type=text/plain

   use dvd  ! (built_with_use media-libs/xine-lib directfb) \
ewarn media-libs/xine-lib was not built with 
 directfb support
   ! (built_with_use media-video/mplayer directfb) \
ewarn media-video/mplayer was not built with 
 directfb support
   if ! (built_with_use media-libs/libsdl directfb) ; then
   eerror media-libs/libsdl was not built with directdb 
 support
   eerror Please re-emerge libsdl with the directfb use 
 flag
   die directfb use flag specified but no support in 
 libsdl and others
   fi
   fi

There's no reason to use subshells for these checks, and more checks I cut.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for December

2007-12-01 Thread Jose Luis Rivero
On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 05:45:02AM +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 This is your monthly friendly reminder !  Same bat time (typically
 the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel
 (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) !
 
 If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even
 vote on, let us know !  Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole
 Gentoo dev list to see.
 

The new USE documentation discussion was mailed to the council by
flameeyes after the first posts in gentoo-dev[1], but I'm not sure if 
it's really in the agenda so, please, consider it to be discussed.

I would suggest this kind of question based on the different ideas shown
by the developers comunity:

 - What is proper way to make changes to ebuild related information
   (metadata.dtd)? Do we need a GLEP? It only need to be discussed in -dev
   first? Gentoo-doc is who control metadata.dtd?

And depends on the conclusion, please think if the current USE
documentation specified in metadata.xml is consider as final.

Thanks.

P.D: This is not a post to discuss the new USE documentation (again), is
just a request to the council to decide in this area where we
(developers) have different points of view.

[1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_149120.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for December

2007-12-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Jose Luis Rivero wrote:
 I would suggest this kind of question based on the different ideas shown
 by the developers comunity:
 
  - What is proper way to make changes to ebuild related information
(metadata.dtd)? Do we need a GLEP? It only need to be discussed in -dev
first? Gentoo-doc is who control metadata.dtd?

Eh? News to me. No, we in the GDP don't control it. In viewing the
history [1], I see that neysx did make one commit to it, but that's
because he's a go-to guy for xml/dtd stuff in general, not because this
file is under the sole control of the GDP. We're not the ebuild
developers/writers . . . you are. Granted, we do have commit access to
that part of gentoo/xml/, but we're not the be-all and end-all for
suggested changes to metadata.dtd.

Something the council might want to keep in mind.


[1]
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/dtd/metadata.dtd?rev=1.6view=log



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