Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Rémi Cardona
Marius Mauch a écrit : So, do you think it should be enabled by default? Does portage have a way to report which libraries it is keeping around because of preserve-libs ? If there's an easy way to figure that out, then enabling it by default is a very sane and sound idea. Cheers, Rémi --

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 29-05-2008 08:54:48 +0200, Rémi Cardona wrote: Marius Mauch a écrit : So, do you think it should be enabled by default? Does portage have a way to report which libraries it is keeping around because of preserve-libs ? If there's an easy way to figure that out, then enabling it by

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Mike Auty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: | The purpose of this is to keep the system operational after library | upgrades until all affected packages could be rebuilt and to simplify | the process, not to avoid the rebuilds. I couldn't find it mentioned in your email,

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also it is not going to be a perfect solution against all runtime link errors, but if enabled it should eliminate the need for revdep-rebuild in most cases. I'm afraid that it will turn, for complex libraries like libexpat and users not using

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2008-05-29 08:54:48 Rémi Cardona napisał(a): Does portage have a way to report which libraries it is keeping around because of preserve-libs ? portageq list_preserved_libs / -- Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:28:16 +0100 Mike Auty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: | The purpose of this is to keep the system operational after library | upgrades until all affected packages could be rebuilt and to | simplify the

[gentoo-dev] Recent changes wrt python.eclass

2008-05-29 Thread Ali Polatel
Hi people, All python_mod_* functions are now ROOT aware. I've also modified them to die if they aren't run in expected phases. Also I plan to make byte compiling functions print a warning when *.py{c,o} are installed under /usr/share which is a FHS violation. The tree and python developer's

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [RFC] Eclass for gnome-python* split

2008-05-29 Thread Ali Polatel
Ali Polatel yazmış: Mart Raudsepp yazmış: On L, 2008-05-24 at 10:18 +0300, Ali Polatel wrote: Arun Raghavan yazmış: Greetings All, Hey there I've been working on an ancient bug [1] requesting a split of the gnome-python, gnome-python-extras, and gnome-python-desktop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-29 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 29 May 2008 11:02:55 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As much as we want preserve-libs to be an all-curing magic, it's not. When you need to replace a library you need to do so _for all its users at once_, if you allow