On Sat, 31 May 2008 02:17:48 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2008 03:03:42 +0200
Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Which is where the design flaw is -- as-needed incorrectly assumes
that the only type of dependency between shared
On Saturday 31 May 2008 00:16:31 Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Ok, then everything in the tree is covered and we can move to having
--as-needed as default.
Is the next version of everything in the tree covered? Have you made
sure that software isn't merely working by fluke?
We interupt this
В Птн, 30/05/2008 в 20:28 -0700, Brian Harring пишет:
Either way, basically it's coming down to if gentoo wants to follow
the definition of 'academic' right, or 'pragmatic' right. Exempting
ciaran, vote seems to be pragmatic.
Well, although I've asked about problems with having --as-needed
Mike Frysinger wrote:
net-ftp/ncftp
i can take this one
wkr,
Tobias
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On 01:09 Sat 31 May , Mike Frysinger wrote:
I'd like to advocate for interested people to pick up a few of these.
net-misc/ntp
It would be good if someone took this, because a ton of people use it.
net-misc/dropbear
sys-libs/uclibc
I'd really like for someone to pick these up, since
Mike Frysinger wrote:
net-misc/vnc
I already maintain that :P
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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 01:09 Sat 31 May , Mike Frysinger wrote:
I'd like to advocate for interested people to pick up a few of these.
net-misc/ntp
might be a candidate for the sysadmin-herd.
Cheers,
Tiziano
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On Saturday 31 May 2008 11:14:33 Luca Barbato wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Fact: the underlying issue is a libtool bug.
Wrong, it isn't just that, --as-needed and libtool are unrelated.
The issue that as-needed tries to solve is libraries being linked to binaries
or other libraries that
Peter Volkov wrote:
В Птн, 30/05/2008 в 20:28 -0700, Brian Harring пишет:
Either way, basically it's coming down to if gentoo wants to follow
the definition of 'academic' right, or 'pragmatic' right. Exempting
ciaran, vote seems to be pragmatic.
Well, although I've asked about problems with
A. Convince the portage developers to put it in
make.conf/make.defaults.
By the way, I'm strongly opposed to this: it should be, at best, in the
profiles.
For instance, as long as bug #192403 isn't fixed, as-needed will cause
*a lot* of build failures on fbsd since gcc specs are broken and
On Sat, 31 May 2008 04:26:39 -0700
Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just to jump in quickly; this thread is about adding --as-needed to
the default CFLAGS. To get this accomplished you need to:
A. Convince the portage developers to put it in
make.conf/make.defaults.
Wrong.
We don't
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
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04:03:38 +0100:
The correct fix is to make libtool only link to dependencies of
dependencies when doing, for example, static linking. Debian has a
half-working patch for this that I posted earlier
080531 Mike Frysinger wrote:
many of these are low maintence ...
i'd forgotten i was even listed under them
as i havent seen a bug report in a long time.
some i added (well probably too many) on a lark,
so if they do end up being crappy and no one cares,
i guess that's why we have a tree
Mike Frysinger yazmış:
no herd:
dev-libs/libtomcrypt
dev-libs/libtomfloat
dev-libs/libtommath
dev-libs/libtompoly
dev-libs/tomsfastmath
I'll take these if noone else wants them. I use them from time to time
for my studies.
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On Sat, 31 May 2008 01:09:33 -0400
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
net-ftp/ncftp
Yoink!
Kind regards,
JeR
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net-misc/ntp
This is rather basic, isn't it ? It keeps your clock accurate.
Is there any alternative ?
net-misc/openntpd - by the OpenBSD folks...
http://openntpd.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNTPD
regards
Thilo
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Thilo Bangert yazmış:
net-misc/ntp
This is rather basic, isn't it ? It keeps your clock accurate.
Is there any alternative ?
net-misc/openntpd - by the OpenBSD folks...
http://openntpd.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenNTPD
Or net-misc/clockspeed :-)
regards
Thilo
On Saturday 31 May 2008, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 01:09 Sat 31 May , Mike Frysinger wrote:
I'd like to advocate for interested people to pick up a few of these.
i think some of the herds are capable without a specific maintainer ... in
this case, base-system and embedded wrt these three
ive made this shift in profiles.desc:
sed -ir '/^(arm|s390|sh)/s:stable:dev:' profiles.desc
if/when we get dedicated arch maintainers, they can think about shifting back
-mike
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Le samedi 31 mai 2008 à 13:31 -0400, ben tucker a écrit :
Hi Mike,
I am a good candidate for taking over maintenance of these, as my day
job is a security developer for the world's largest software delivery
infrastructure company for remote applications :-).
net-libs/libvncserver
Hi!
On Sat, 31 May 2008, Philip Webb wrote:
080531 Mike Frysinger wrote:
many of these are low maintence ...
i'd forgotten i was even listed under them
as i havent seen a bug report in a long time.
some i added (well probably too many) on a lark,
so if they do end up being crappy
[Answering to some random message in this long thread.]
On Sat, 31 May 2008, Brian Harring wrote:
So... folks have pointed out a benefit to using --as-needed.
The benefit itself doesn't seem particularly in dispute, analyze
the fallout from it- if the best that is offered is the spec says
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Ulrich Mueller wrote:
| But maybe Emacs is an uncommon application, or I am looking for the
| wrong things? Could one of the experts please shed some light on this?
I think you're looking for the wrong things. I'm not an expert, but I
think
On Saturday 31 May 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote:
ive made this shift in profiles.desc:
sed -ir '/^(arm|s390|sh)/s:stable:dev:' profiles.desc
if/when we get dedicated arch maintainers, they can think about shifting
back
for the confused ... you should still be adding these arches for stable
Mike Auty [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on Sat, 31 May 2008 20:32:42 +0100:
I think you're looking for the wrong things. I'm not an expert, but I
think --as-needed means that if there are 20 libraries on your system
that use libexpat.so.0 and 400 programs that
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