Re: [gentoo-dev] license issue with fretsonfire

2009-05-03 Thread Arun Raghavan
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 18:17 +0200, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
[...]
 I think the code can be considered GPL-2 (i will check if there is no
 header specifying something else) and for the fonts, I will have to add
 2 licenses not in the tree at the moment.
 But what to do with the songs ? I suppose it's not the first GPL game
 having non very clear license about data. How games team is managing
 that ?

The fonts license seems to be the same as licenses/BitstreamVera which
is in-tree.

As for the songs, does it make sense to put that in a separate package
that the code package depends on? The package can have the restrictive
license it is distributed under and RESTRICT=mirror bindist.

-- Arun


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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-03 Thread Tiziano Müller
This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd  4th
Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @
irc.freenode.net) !

If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote
on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev
list to see.

For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/

Following is the preliminary meeting agenda. It consists of two EAPI-3
related topics as well as two almost rusty topics where we should
finally make a decision to be able to move on.


EAPI 3: Short discussion of the progress


zmedico will provide an update on the progress of the implementation.
Short discussion of problems and implementation decisions if needed.


EAPI 3: PMS approval


Goal: Approve EAPI-3 extension of the PMS. Any open questions should be
on the mailing list before the meeting.


GLEP 54: Dealing with live SCM packages
---

Goal: Since no consensus is reached or progress has been made voting
seems appropriate.


Handling EAPI versioning in a forwards-compatible way
-

Goal: Since no consensus is reached vote on the implementation for the
problem solved in GLEP 55.


Handling static libraries more flexibly
---

Goal: Decision-making by consensus. 
Should we move forward with USE=static-libs to control 
building of static libraries? Should/Must this be an EAPI feature?


Define EAPI development/deployment cycles
-

Goal: Start discussion about EAPI development/deployment. For example:
Collect problems of eapi introductions in the past, like reverting
ebuilds to former eapis to get them stable, not waiting for the pm
support a certain eapi before requesting stable keywords for ebuilds
using the new eapi,  Collect problems of EAPI development like
feature-freeze, late feature removals (due to implementation problems).
Eventually develop a lightweight EAPI development model.


Cheers,
Tiziano

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Tiziano Müller
Gentoo Linux Developer, Council Member
Areas of responsibility:
  Samba, PostgreSQL, CPP, Python, sysadmin, GLEP Editor
E-Mail   : dev-z...@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP : F327 283A E769 2E36 18D5  4DE2 1B05 6A63 AE9C 1E30


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[gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-03 Thread Peter Faraday Weller
Hi,

I've enjoyed my time with Gentoo, mostly... But these days I've just got
too demotivated to work on it. I might have stayed if Ken69267 posted me
some Lifesavers, but he didn't. :(

On a more serious note, the problem seems to be the complete lack of
management in the required places, Gentoo is fast becoming (or more
likely, already is) an anarchic organisation, where it's becoming
nigh-on impossible to keep track of things. 

I see a number of issues with Gentoo these days. The lack of a proper
leadership body. Lack of people working together in unison. The tree
needs to be sorted out: we have 16000 packages, and 200-250 developers,
not all of which are ebuild developers) - We're still using CVS, we do
*not* have the manpower to keep all the packages updated properly using
a centralised VCS. If these issues were fixed, I don't know/care how
they do get fixed, but if they were, I might consider coming back.

If you *really* want me to stay/not retire, and attempt to help fix
these issues, then I guess I can do so if enough people request that of
me. But I will do so purely in a managerial position, and will do no
ebuild or other such development.

I'll still hang around in various channels and so on and so forth.

Whatever happens, I do apparently maintain a few misc packages, most of
which are low maintenance. Various herds will now need a new lead
(apologies guys), so that will have to be arranged as well. You will
also need to find another slacker to replace me ;)

If there isn't a mass revolt against my retirement, so long, and thanks
for all the fish! Otherwise... We'll see.

Thanks,
welp




Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 7

2009-05-03 Thread Roy Bamford
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On 2009.05.03 22:47, Tiziano Müller wrote:
 This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd  
 4th
 Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council 
 @
 irc.freenode.net) !
 

[snip]

Tiziano,

The 7th is the first Thursday this month.  Has there been a change to 
the meeting dates ?

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Roy Bamford
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[gentoo-dev] Request for testing of GnuTLS 2.7.*

2009-05-03 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
GnuTLS =2.7.1 doesn't contain 'libgnutls-config' and 'libgnutls-extra-config'
scripts so packages, which use them, usually fail to build.
(Sometimes `configure` scripts disable support for GnuTLS without failing.)

The list of packages depending on net-libs/gnutls is available at:
http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/misc/dindex/net-libs/gnutls

If you maintain or use a package included in this list, please check if it
can be built with =net-libs/gnutls-2.7.1.

If a package fails to build with =net-libs/gnutls-2.7.1 and it hasn't been
reported yet, please report a bug and make it block bug 253709 [1].

GnuTLS 2.8.0 will be released soon and we would like to unmask it without
waiting too long.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=253709

-- 
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis


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