[gentoo-dev] Re: mesa r600 gallium news item

2011-08-26 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 23:12:22 +0200
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote:

 Hello,
 
 Please see the attached news item for review. The news item should
 be published before mesa-7.11 goes stable.
 Corresponding bug report:
 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377349
 
 
 Best regards,
 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn

what about updating the emul-linux-x86-* libraries to use gallium,
too? they currently use the classic mesa, judging from the output of
eselect mesa list.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mesa r600 gallium news item

2011-08-26 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
That would probably be a good idea.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero Botella



Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoostats, SoC 2011

2011-08-26 Thread Dale

Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:


I've picked this message as I want to address one point in this thread
that was focused on this sub-thread.
I disagree with the idea that adding an application to the Gentoo tree
that collects data from users and sends it to a central (or distributed)
system is the same as adding any other application to the tree.
Having the ability to add ebuilds to the tree is part of what you gain
by getting gentoo-x86 access. Issues with significant users privacy
concerns and substantial changes like adding packages to the tree that
collect data from users and compile it, should not be at the discretion
of individual developers but be subject of global policies that should
take into account the legal ramifications (trustees) and reflect the
developers desire and goals (council).

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Regards,


Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
   


Just picking a message to reply to at random here.  Sorry Jorge, I 
thought common sense would kick in way before now.


As a user, if ANY distro starts collecting data about me without my 
consent, I would be looking for something else to use.  For people to 
even think that users want someone snooping on them is rather presumptuous.


I have to also agree with the legal problems as well.  Doing this 
without the users consent is going to lead to a huge legal mess. It 
would also taint Gentoo and Linux in general if this were to happen.  
Anyone who thinks it won't needs to talk to a lawyer and some common 
folks really soon.


As a user, if this was done without my consent, saying I would be pissed 
would be to mild a term but one I am willing to use on a public forum.  
As a example, I have DirecTv.  It has no connection other than the 
satellite cable.  No telephone or anything.  I don't want them snooping 
on what I watch on TV either.  I also don't care to have Gentoo 
collecting data on what I use or other data either.  If I wanted that, I 
could just use M$ stuff.  I would expect such things from them and the 
huge EULA they have.


Back to my hole.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mesa r600 gallium news item

2011-08-26 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Joshua Saddler schrieb:
 what about updating the emul-linux-x86-* libraries to use gallium,
 too? they currently use the classic mesa, judging from the output of
 eselect mesa list.
   

On amd64 multilib systems, eselect mesa set r600 gallium will switch
both mesa and emul-linux-x86-opengl to gallium.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn




[gentoo-dev] License for Google Chrome

2011-08-26 Thread Mike Gilbert
I have been maintaining an ebuild for Google Chrome in an overlay. It
basically extracts a deb file to /opt. This serves as an easy
alternative for people who do not have the patience to compile
Chromium.

Now that I have developer access, I would like to move this to the
tree. Before doing so, I need some advice on how to deal with the
EULA[1].

I think clause 2.2 (B) allows me to avoid a fetch restriction.

I think clause 5.3 prohibits mirroring.

Do I need to worry about anything else here?

[1] http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_text.html



Re: [gentoo-dev] License for Google Chrome

2011-08-26 Thread Markos Chandras
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On 26/08/2011 11:06 μμ, Mike Gilbert wrote:
 I have been maintaining an ebuild for Google Chrome in an overlay.
 It basically extracts a deb file to /opt. This serves as an easy 
 alternative for people who do not have the patience to compile 
 Chromium.
 
YES! please do that :)

 Now that I have developer access, I would like to move this to the 
 tree. Before doing so, I need some advice on how to deal with the 
 EULA[1].
 
 I think clause 2.2 (B) allows me to avoid a fetch restriction.
It is not clear to me how this clause has anything to do with fetch
restrictions.

 
 I think clause 5.3 prohibits mirroring.
Yes, I agree

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Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Re: [gentoo-dev] License for Google Chrome

2011-08-26 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
 I think clause 2.2 (B) allows me to avoid a fetch restriction.
 It is not clear to me how this clause has anything to do with fetch
 restrictions.


Perhaps I used the wrong term here. I mean that 2.2 (B) allows the
user to download and install the software without having to explicitly
click the Agree button on the software download page.



Re: [gentoo-dev] License for Google Chrome

2011-08-26 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
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On 26-08-2011 22:06, Mike Gilbert wrote:
 I have been maintaining an ebuild for Google Chrome in an overlay.
 It basically extracts a deb file to /opt. This serves as an easy 
 alternative for people who do not have the patience to compile 
 Chromium.
 
 Now that I have developer access, I would like to move this to the 
 tree. Before doing so, I need some advice on how to deal with the 
 EULA[1].
 
 I think clause 2.2 (B) allows me to avoid a fetch restriction.
 
 I think clause 5.3 prohibits mirroring.
 
 Do I need to worry about anything else here?
 
 [1] http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_text.html

Mike,

when you have doubts about a license and mail the gentoo-dev ml, also cc
the licenses alias.
I'm curious, but does Google release a pre-compiled binary that you can
use as chrome-bin?

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Regards,

Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org
Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng
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Re: [gentoo-dev] License for Google Chrome

2011-08-26 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
jmbsvice...@gentoo.org wrote:
 when you have doubts about a license and mail the gentoo-dev ml, also cc
 the licenses alias.

Will do.

 I'm curious, but does Google release a pre-compiled binary that you can
 use as chrome-bin?


That is exactly the sort of package I am planning to add. Chrome
cannot be built from source by anyone except a Google employee.

To clarify: Chrome is a pre-built, officially branded version of the
open-source Chromium project. It also includes a few proprietary
components, like a PDF reader plugin from Adobe.

The Chromium project does produce automatic snapshot builds which do
not not include the branding and proprietary software, but these fall
under more open-source friendly license.