Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:32:34 +0100 David Leverton levert...@googlemail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: No, of course not. Otherwise, every package manager run would practically require it to re-validate all packages in the tree (possibly not only installed ones). Package manager must

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5

2012-06-22 Thread Ben de Groot
On 22 June 2012 08:38, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: Would you (or someone else) elaborate on the specific features of bash that people find attractive? For me, it is mostly [[ ]] tests, arrays and brace expansion. The += operator is also very nice to have. -- Cheers, Ben | yngwin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo

2012-06-22 Thread George Prowse
The Reg has a story on this from a blog post by Red Hat. It may be worth a read: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/18/windows_8_linux_secure_boot/

Re: [gentoo-dev] A friendly reminder: Ciaran McCreesh is not a Gentoo dev

2012-06-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:01:15 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Just a short note as it seems some confusion arises lately: Ciaran McCreesh is not a Gentoo dev and his words don't represent the position of Gentoo development team. Right. Doesn't that make me more important than you?

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/21/2012 11:12 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:32:34 +0100 David Leverton levert...@googlemail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: But in the current form, the spec doesn't allow passing IUSE_RUNTIME flags to has_version() so we're on the safe side :P. True. Do we want to

Re: [gentoo-dev] A friendly reminder: Ciaran McCreesh is not a Gentoo dev

2012-06-22 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag 22 Juni 2012, 04:12:48 schrieb Sylvain Alain: Amen to that too, but can you post the actual comments that he said ? SMTP Error 552 Message too large -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote: On 06/21/2012 11:12 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 22:32:34 +0100 David Leverton levert...@googlemail.com wrote: Michał Górny wrote: But in the current form, the spec doesn't allow passing IUSE_RUNTIME flags

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Killing UEFI Secure Boot

2012-06-22 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/06/12 08:24 PM, Richard Yao wrote: On 06/21/2012 06:51 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: we're a DISTRO - we integrate and ship what upstream gives us... RHEL is a distribution, but I understand that RedHat does a great deal of upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 22/06/12 12:48 AM, Zac Medico wrote: On 06/21/2012 02:32 PM, David Leverton wrote: Michał Górny wrote: But in the current form, the spec doesn't allow passing IUSE_RUNTIME flags to has_version() so we're on the safe side :P. True. Do we

Re: [gentoo-dev] A friendly reminder: Ciaran McCreesh is not a Gentoo dev

2012-06-22 Thread George Prowse
On 22/06/2012 07:40, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:01:15 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Just a short note as it seems some confusion arises lately: Ciaran McCreesh is not a Gentoo dev and his words don't represent the position of Gentoo development team. Right.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread Marien Zwart
On do, 2012-06-21 at 20:05 +0100, David Leverton wrote: 1) If an installed package has both IUSE_RUNTIME and REQUIRED_USE, should REQUIRED_USE be re-verified: a) for every dep resolution b) when the package is involved in the resolution for some other reason (not necessarily being

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] gcc-native-flags() proposal addition to toolchain-funcs.eclass

2012-06-22 Thread Marien Zwart
On wo, 2012-06-20 at 17:56 +0200, viv...@gmail.com wrote: #409471 dev-python/pypy-1.8-r1 CFLAGS=-march=native fails to compile https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409471 Thanks, but currently I do not think we quite need this: I do not think we should use a whitelist of known-working

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread David Leverton
Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Technically it could, but the issue here would be what you are going to do with a has_version check on an IUSE_RUNTIME dep -- the package should do filesystem-identical installs no matter what status of IUSE_RUNTIME flags, so whatever one would do with a has_version check

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread David Leverton
Marien Zwart wrote: Possible solutions: a) automatically rewrite the dep as postscript? ( app-text/ghostscript ) !postscript? ( !app-text/ghostscript ) There may be more than one version of docmangler, with a postscript flag with different effects (IUSE_RUNTIME or full IUSE,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Optional runtime dependencies via runtime-switchable USE flags

2012-06-22 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:29:15 +0100 David Leverton levert...@googlemail.com wrote: Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Technically it could, but the issue here would be what you are going to do with a has_version check on an IUSE_RUNTIME dep -- the package should do filesystem-identical installs no