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On 08/28/2012 04:54 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
I meant 'require only newest slot supported by package' vs 'any
older slot would work'.
hmm, imo that depends on the question if we can safely assume that the
application compiles with boost 1.35.0 up
Ben de Groot posted on Wed, 29 Aug 2012 13:06:29 +0800 as excerpted:
For now udev is still usable without systemd, even tho upstream is
making it difficult to build udev separately (and avoid unnecessary
build-time dependencies). Upstream is also unwilling to work with us to
make this easier.
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
And
by 2-3 years out, if Linux/FLOSS history is any guide, the whole
ecosystem will look different, and we'll have a whole list of new changes
and challenges to worry about,
Agreed. I suspect the status quo will remain in
Hi!
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Duncan wrote:
So in practice, just what are the sorts of times, relative to stand-alone-
build udev, we're talking about? In all this discussion, what, hundreds
of posts by now?, I've not seen ANYONE actually ask, let alone answer,
THAT. But it would seem to be a
I doubt that most people consider udev's stand-alone build-time a big
issue.
The real issue is not the build-time but the dependencies needed
at build-time (and in future versions perhaps also at run-time):
Currently, these are essentially libcap and dbus.
Now that some projects (e.g. hardened
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:57:48PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
As a first crude datapoint, I compared the build times
(configure+make) of udev-171-r6 and -188 on our dev Alpha. This
is a machine that's on the speedier side of off-mainstream
architecures, but as a datapoint, it should be
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 05:12:19PM +0200, Vaeth wrote:
I doubt that most people consider udev's stand-alone build-time a big
issue.
The real issue is not the build-time but the dependencies needed
at build-time (and in future versions perhaps also at run-time):
Currently, these are
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On 08/29/2012 01:10 AM, Ben de Groot wrote:
On 28 August 2012 05:11, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote:
Hello,
$ quse -D adns ares
global:adns: Adds support for the adns DNS client library
local:ares:dev-libs/ecore: Enables support for
Then it's like the ssl: openssl gnutls nss case :)
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On 29/08/2012 09:05, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote:
Except for the fact that they are two different backends for async DNS
and some packages (wireshark) support both. Doesn't make sense to merge
them and take the choice away from the user.
They should behave like ssl: if only one is supported
Hi!
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, William Hubbs wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:57:48PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
As a first crude datapoint, I compared the build times
(configure+make) of udev-171-r6 and -188 on our dev Alpha. This
is a machine that's on the speedier side of off-mainstream
Hello, fellow developers.
I'd like to note that the prune_libtool_files() in eutils.eclass has
a pretty specific dependency on pkg-config. Whenever it is used
in an ebuild, it should depend on virtual/pkgconfig if all
of the following conditions are met:
1. The ebuild installs at least a single
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
In other words, pkg-config is only used when no other criteria allows
it to classify the particular .la file as suitable for removal or not.
Sadly, it's rather, ehm, unfriendly to ebuild developers who obviously
don't even read the relevant
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:16 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
In other words, pkg-config is only used when no other criteria
allows it to classify the particular .la file as suitable for
removal or not. Sadly, it's rather,
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:16 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
In other words, pkg-config is only used when no other criteria
allows it to classify the particular .la file as suitable for
On 29/08/2012 15:02, Michał Górny wrote:
I'd add it to @system because a lot of packages actually need to DEPEND
on pkgconfig because they use libraries using .pc files. And the number
is going to increase, hopefully.
And yet it shouldn't be part of system because it's not necessary to run
a
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:05:19 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:16 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
In other words, pkg-config is only used when no
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:06:16 -0700
Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote:
On 29/08/2012 15:02, Michał Górny wrote:
Also, some people are probably going to try to get some pkgconf
support directly into gcc, in form of '-something libfoo' to make
it grab everything magically, I
On 29/08/2012 15:16, Michał Górny wrote:
Also, some people are probably going to try to get some pkgconf
support directly into gcc, in form of '-something libfoo' to make
it grab everything magically, I think.
You have a future as a comedian.
Sir, you are going too far.
I'm just
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:05:19 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:16 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
In other words,
On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 00:02 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:50:16 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
In other words, pkg-config is only used when no other criteria
allows it to classify the particular .la
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:18:20 -0400
Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote:
does it actually ? are DEPEND variables not allowed to be expanded in
pkg_* src_* funcs ?
Nope. We don't guarantee that the metadata variable gets exported back
to the ebuild environment.
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:24:45 -0400
Alexandre Rostovtsev tetrom...@gentoo.org wrote:
Ciaran only shoots at people for checking $DEPEND at inherit time. I
think that checking $DEPEND in prune_libtool_files, which is called
from src_install, shouldn't be a problem.
Naah, I shout at people for
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:18:20 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote:
does it actually ? are DEPEND variables not allowed to be expanded in
pkg_* src_* funcs ?
Nope. We don't guarantee that the metadata variable gets exported back
to the ebuild
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 07:37:49AM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote
What I see as the most likely thing to lead to change is if/when
GnomeOS actually starts to exist. When you can't run Gnome without
systemd I'd expect to see a lot more Gentoo users running it. Then
again, if Gnome jumps the
On N, 1970-01-01 at 00:00 +, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
Hi!
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, William Hubbs wrote:
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:57:48PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
As a first crude datapoint, I compared the build times
(configure+make) of udev-171-r6 and -188 on our dev Alpha.
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