Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12

2013-06-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 03-06-2013 a las 17:24 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
[...]
 Yeah. The news item now advises the user that it's a good practice to 
 run revdep-rebuild anyway, just to be safe.

I would also suggest people to report bugs when they find cases not
catched by preserve-libs as they can be a real bug (like bug #460826)




Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12

2013-06-04 Thread Zac Medico

On 06/03/2013 11:49 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote:

El lun, 03-06-2013 a las 17:24 -0700, Zac Medico escribió:
[...]

Yeah. The news item now advises the user that it's a good practice to
run revdep-rebuild anyway, just to be safe.


I would also suggest people to report bugs when they find cases not
catched by preserve-libs as they can be a real bug (like bug #460826)


Well, I already gave them an example bug report, so hopefully they'll 
take that as a clue. I don't feel like nagging them to file bugs.

--
Thanks,
Zac



[gentoo-dev] app-dict team needs help

2013-06-04 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Hello guys,

the app-dict team is almost-non existent altho it provides one of the most 
core features for our daily desktop usage as without dictionaries and spell 
checking we could not imagine much work nowdays.

So what is needed there:

aspell - all various bugs around, per language file bumps here and there, 
cleanup and provide new eclass for aspell packages, current one is needlesly 
complex.

myspell(hunspell): finish migration to myspell-r1 on the remaining packages, 
find more upstreams and include the lang files into the distribution. Most 
important here is that we have dicts for english from 2007 and they were 
updated a lot in last 6 years when i check the git in libreoffice dicts (but 
there is no upstream indication).

stardict: trivial bugs around but i don't use stardict.

I check this herd as I need it for nice and compfy libreoffice usage, but 
mostly I am not devoting much to it, so if you guys happen to have spare 
cycles, please take look for your languages/etc and updatedcleanup, also if 
you happen to fill stablereq, just cc arches directly there.

Cheers

Tom

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[gentoo-dev] Removing net-wireless/ipw3945*

2013-06-04 Thread Jan Kundrát

Hi folks,
somehow it happened that I'm listed as the only maintainer of 
net-wireless/ipw3945d, net-wireless/ipw3945 and net-wireless/ipw3945-ucode. I'm 
not an ebuild developer, I no longer use that hardware on a production machine, 
and I believe that I switched that old laptop to iwl3945 years ago anyway.

Could you please start the last rites process for it? As I said, I don't have 
commit access to gentoo-x86, so I cannot do this myself.

Cheers,
Jan



Re: [gentoo-dev] Removing net-wireless/ipw3945*

2013-06-04 Thread Markos Chandras
On 4 June 2013 15:54, Jan Kundrát j...@gentoo.org wrote:
 Hi folks,
 somehow it happened that I'm listed as the only maintainer of
 net-wireless/ipw3945d, net-wireless/ipw3945 and net-wireless/ipw3945-ucode.
 I'm not an ebuild developer, I no longer use that hardware on a production
 machine, and I believe that I switched that old laptop to iwl3945 years ago
 anyway.

 Could you please start the last rites process for it? As I said, I don't
 have commit access to gentoo-x86, so I cannot do this myself.

 Cheers,
 Jan


Hi Jan,

Could you please open a bug so treecleaners can track this?

--
Regards,
Markos Chandras - Gentoo Linux Developer
http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang



[gentoo-dev] Re: Removing net-wireless/ipw3945*

2013-06-04 Thread Jan Kundrát

On Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:02:33 CEST, Markos Chandras wrote:

Could you please open a bug so treecleaners can track this?


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472296 it is. Thanks.

Cheers,
Jan



Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12

2013-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 04/06/13 03:24, Zac Medico wrote:

Yeah. The news item now advises the user that it's a good practice to
run revdep-rebuild anyway, just to be safe.


And `revdep-rebuild --library libfoobar.so.0` is still useful,
unless Portage can replace targeted --library calls too?

Just saying I'm not seeing the command going away anytime soon ;-)

- Samuli



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: eselect init

2013-06-04 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Luca,

On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 12:35:29AM +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
 Again you should read the whole thread, please do, the whole eselect
 init stuff should stay opt-in for the time being so all this discussion
 is close to pointless.

Can we please make this remain opt-in always? I too would rather not see
this become mandatory for gentoo.

William



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12

2013-06-04 Thread Zac Medico

On 06/04/2013 09:20 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote:

On 04/06/13 03:24, Zac Medico wrote:

Yeah. The news item now advises the user that it's a good practice to
run revdep-rebuild anyway, just to be safe.


And `revdep-rebuild --library libfoobar.so.0` is still useful,


This is for a ABI change without bumping the soname? It's possible to 
trigger rebuilds for that case by using sub-slots and slot-operators.



unless Portage can replace targeted --library calls too?


No, portage doesn't have that, except when it's implied via sub-slots 
and slot-operators.



Just saying I'm not seeing the command going away anytime soon ;-)


Yes, it could certainly be useful in some situations.
--
Thanks,
Zac



Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12

2013-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org wrote:
 This is for a ABI change without bumping the soname? It's possible to
 trigger rebuilds for that case by using sub-slots and slot-operators.

Or you could choose a longer-term solution like firebombing the
upstream maintainers...

Rich



[gentoo-dev] About lafilefixer removal

2013-06-04 Thread Pacho Ramos
It lacks a maintainer for a long time, also has some opened bugs and I
am unsure if it's still needed. I am not using it for months and never
saw any problem, also, portage fixes .la files by itself, and paludis
people don't approve lafilefixer. 

Do we still need it?




Re: [gentoo-dev] About lafilefixer removal

2013-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 05/06/13 00:09, Pacho Ramos wrote:

It lacks a maintainer for a long time, also has some opened bugs and I
am unsure if it's still needed. I am not using it for months and never
saw any problem, also, portage fixes .la files by itself, and paludis
people don't approve lafilefixer.

Do we still need it?


+1 for dropping it as...

- gentoo-x86/ has been massively cleaned up with punting of .la files
- -Wl,--as-needed is enabled by default for ages
- portage's own .la file fixing
- emptying of some dependency_libs='' in tree
- the 'coming' GNU gold linker being even more stricter than -Wl,--as-needed
- majority of `lafilefixer` users propably emerged it by accident, 
thinking it's some magic bullet for their .la file problem, which it's not






Re: [gentoo-dev] Draft news item: preserve-libs default for portage-2.1.12

2013-06-04 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
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On 06/04/2013 04:56 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Zac Medico zmed...@gentoo.org
 wrote:
 This is for a ABI change without bumping the soname? It's
 possible to trigger rebuilds for that case by using sub-slots and
 slot-operators.
 
 Or you could choose a longer-term solution like firebombing the 
 upstream maintainers...
 
HA! ++

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