Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

2005-04-15 Thread Lance Albertson
On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 06:56 +0100, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > As I'm sure many of you will know, the updated apache and associated ebuilds > (so-called apache refresh) have caused a number of problems since coming out > of package.mask and going into testing. As a result, we have a number of > p

[gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

2005-04-15 Thread Elfyn McBratney
Hi Folks, As I'm sure many of you will know, the updated apache and associated ebuilds (so-called apache refresh) have caused a number of problems since coming out of package.mask and going into testing. As a result, we have a number of packages that simply do not function with the updated apa

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Saturday 16 April 2005 03:53, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Friday 15 April 2005 15:14, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > If this actually scared anybody (that received it), my apologies. I was > > confused about bugs. Fixing the flat profiles will be problem either. The > > bug is that 2.0.50 will die if tw

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Brian Harring
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:53:41PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Friday 15 April 2005 15:14, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > If this actually scared anybody (that received it), my apologies. I was > > confused about bugs. Fixing the flat profiles will be problem either. The > > bug is that 2.0.50 will

[gentoo-dev] dev-lang/bigwig needs a maintainer or it'll be removed

2005-04-15 Thread Elfyn McBratney
Hi folks, dev-lang/bigwig is broken with the 2.x versions of Apache 2.x we have in the tree, and upstream appears to be dead and not responding to emails. If no one picks this package up by April 30th, it will be removed from the tree. Best, Elfyn -- Elfyn McBratney

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 15 April 2005 04:13 pm, Vibhav Garg wrote: > Sorry for the dumb question but was do -fpie and -fno-pie do? yeah you should be sorry ! seriously though, PIE stands for Position Independent Executables and -fpie / -fno-pie controls whether the toolchain produces PIE (mmm PIE) for someth

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 04:05:16PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 15 April 2005 03:55 pm, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 03:38:04PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > uhh, gcc-3.3.x should certainly support -fpie and -fno-pie > > > > In that case, take a look at >

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Vibhav Garg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maurice van der Pot wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:10:25PM -0400, Daniel Ostrow wrote: > >>Take a look at dev-libs/glib/files/glib-2.6.3-testglib-ssp.patch to see >>how solar and I dealt with a similar issue with tests and ssp. See if >>you can a

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 15 April 2005 03:55 pm, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 03:38:04PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > uhh, gcc-3.3.x should certainly support -fpie and -fno-pie > > In that case, take a look at > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89179. it's because he has USE=bou

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 03:38:04PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > uhh, gcc-3.3.x should certainly support -fpie and -fno-pie In that case, take a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89179. -- Maurice van der Pot Gentoo Linux Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gentoo.org Cre

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 08:40:55PM +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote: > > Why is -fno-pie being added by filter-flags anyway? > > Because with hardened gcc profiles PIE is the default behaviour. So, if > something doesn't work with pie (which is usually why one would filter > out -fpie), we need to ad

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-15 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrea Barisani wrote: | There's no reference to @gentoo.org and our main MX server is rewriting @gentoo.org | to @lists.gentoo.org every time. Are you seeing @gentoo.org in those headers | in the messages you are getting? Something has changed recently

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 15 April 2005 03:27 pm, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > Ok, so I thought it was all well and good, but now a bug report made me > realise that gcc < 3.4 doesn't have -fpie/-fno-pie. uhh, gcc-3.3.x should certainly support -fpie and -fno-pie works on my 3.3.5.2005 on amd64 ... -mike --

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 21:27 +0200, Maurice van der Pot wrote: > What do I do now? The obvious course of action would be to test whether the GCC being used supports -fno-pie and add it if it does. If it doesn't, you'd just have to assume that PIE isn't being used by default. > Why is -fno-pie bei

Re: [gentoo-dev] What to do with things like -fpie in CFLAGS in environment?

2005-04-15 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:10:25PM -0400, Daniel Ostrow wrote: > > Take a look at dev-libs/glib/files/glib-2.6.3-testglib-ssp.patch to see > how solar and I dealt with a similar issue with tests and ssp. See if > you can adapt it, we just forced -fno-stack-protector after the CFLAGS > pulled in fr

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Friday 15 April 2005 15:14, Jason Stubbs wrote: > If this actually scared anybody (that received it), my apologies. I was > confused about bugs. Fixing the flat profiles will be problem either. The > bug is that 2.0.50 will die if two profiles in a cascade define the same > variable. Then make

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 15 April 2005 10:35 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Friday 15 April 2005 23:23, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Friday 15 April 2005 10:13 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > > On Friday 15 April 2005 16:07, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > media-video/avidemux > > > > > > This is already rem

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Mike Frysinger wrote: >On Friday 15 April 2005 10:29 am, Francesco Riosa wrote: > > >>Mike Frysinger wrote: >> >> >>>as a reminder, NEVER utilize USE=pic in your package unless you know >>>exactly >>> >>> >>[... snip of how much PIC is bad ] >> >> > >PIC isnt bad ... people misusin

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 15 April 2005 10:29 am, Francesco Riosa wrote: > Mike Frysinger wrote: > >as a reminder, NEVER utilize USE=pic in your package unless you know > > exactly > > [... snip of how much PIC is bad ] PIC isnt bad ... people misusing USE=pic is bad > A clarification: It's ok to use it _only_ f

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 15 April 2005 23:23, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 15 April 2005 10:13 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > On Friday 15 April 2005 16:07, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > media-video/avidemux > > > > This is already removed by patch on bug #89097.. I anyway think that this > > is my f

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Jan Brinkmann
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:07:53AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > as a reminder, NEVER utilize USE=pic in your package unless you know exactly > what it's for and you're sure you need it ... a quick `grep -Rl ^IUSE=.*pic` > of the tree shows a bunch of ebuilds which appear to be misusing it: > ap

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Simon Stelling
Hi, Francesco Riosa wrote: > A clarification: It's ok to use it _only_ for _libraryes_ by default ? > i.e > econf [...] --with-lib-ccflags="-fPIC" > > Using it now and interested to know if it's plain wrong Shared objects should be built with -fPIC anyway, since a few arches require it and it ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] CONFIG_PROTECT* and USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:20:43 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | USE_EXPAND is not an incremental. Indeed (despite what Nick has said to the contrary). Nor should it be -- down that path lies insanity, and not the good kind. | The only other settings that directly relate to ebuilds an

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 15 April 2005 16:23, Mike Frysinger wrote: > you have an execuse ... you havent taken the dev quiz yet which has a PIC > usage question ;) Well actually now I taken it :) but the patches where previous to that :P -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò http://wwwstud.dsi.unive.it/~dpetteno/ pgpS

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Francesco Riosa
Mike Frysinger wrote: >as a reminder, NEVER utilize USE=pic in your package unless you know exactly > [... snip of how much PIC is bad ] A clarification: It's ok to use it _only_ for _libraryes_ by default ? i.e econf [...] --with-lib-ccflags="-fPIC" Using it now and interested to know if it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 15 April 2005 10:13 am, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Friday 15 April 2005 16:07, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > media-video/avidemux > > This is already removed by patch on bug #89097.. I anyway think that this > is my fault (as for djvu and tvtime, probably). > Sorry about that. you

Re: [gentoo-dev] CONFIG_PROTECT* and USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 15 April 2005 22:18, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:14:59 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > | If this actually scared anybody (that received it), my apologies. I > | was confused about bugs. Fixing the flat profiles will be problem

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 15 April 2005 16:07, Mike Frysinger wrote: > media-video/avidemux This is already removed by patch on bug #89097.. I anyway think that this is my fault (as for djvu and tvtime, probably). Sorry about that. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò http://wwwstud.dsi.unive.it/~dpetteno/ pgpT1KCPj9

[gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

2005-04-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
as a reminder, NEVER utilize USE=pic in your package unless you know exactly what it's for and you're sure you need it ... a quick `grep -Rl ^IUSE=.*pic` of the tree shows a bunch of ebuilds which appear to be misusing it: app-admin/amanda app-text/djvu media-libs/guilib media-libs/libvisual medi

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 22:14:59 +0900 Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | If this actually scared anybody (that received it), my apologies. I | was confused about bugs. Fixing the flat profiles will be problem | either. The bug is that 2.0.50 will die if two profiles in a cascade | define the

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND additions

2005-04-15 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 14 April 2005 23:26, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Wednesday 13 April 2005 20:48, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Anyway, any objections against moving the current USE_EXPAND out of > > make.globals and into base's make.defaults? Those using <=2.0.50* won't > > get any additions (how it is now anywa

Re: [gentoo-dev] reply-to munging

2005-04-15 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 09:20 +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > Actually, some mailing list managers actually are intelligent enough to > not forward on an email if you're CC'ed. (Mailman comes to mind) I > agree, having messages sent in duplicate can be annoying, but its not > that hard to read one

[gentoo-dev] Re: reply-to munging

2005-04-15 Thread Torsten Veller
* Stuart Longland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > > >Reply-to-All is evil. You should be using Reply-to-List. I know that I > >sure don't need to get the same email both on and off-list. Off-list > >emails should be reserved only for when you explicitly do not want to > >send