Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Some people have experienced font slowdowns. This is because of a
> /usr/share/fonts/fonts circular symlink that's a migration artifact. I
> just committed a fix for it, but feel free to simply delete the symlink
> rather than remerging.

Also in some cases, it can be a directory full of symlinks instead.
Either way, delete the stupid thing.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> I just added a couple of new xorg-x11 ebuilds. 6.8.2-r2 is a work in
> progress and will soon be removed from package.mask and unleashed upon
> the masses. 6.8.99.3 is a development snapshot of CVS HEAD and is part
> of an occasionally released series (roughly every two weeks).
> 
> Let me know how things go with them via bugs.gentoo.org. If you hit a
> bug in 6.8.2, please try out the 6.8.99.* snapshots to see whether it's
> still present.

Some people have experienced font slowdowns. This is because of a
/usr/share/fonts/fonts circular symlink that's a migration artifact. I
just committed a fix for it, but feel free to simply delete the symlink
rather than remerging.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Daniel Goller wrote:
> do  you want both on one bug or seperate bugs, from your email, you do
> want success and problems on bugs.g.o, correct? do you want hardware
> info/binary drivers used added?

Basically emerge info and xorg.conf, from which I can suck out your
architecture, xorg USE flags, toolchain and driver.

Successes are only really interesting for 6.8.99.*. THe other, I expect
to work fairly well.

Successes can get lumped together, failures I'd like split out, unless
they affect both.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Daniel Goller]

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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
| I just added a couple of new xorg-x11 ebuilds. 6.8.2-r2 is a work in
| progress and will soon be removed from package.mask and unleashed upon
| the masses. 6.8.99.3 is a development snapshot of CVS HEAD and is part
| of an occasionally released series (roughly every two weeks).
|
| Let me know how things go with them via bugs.gentoo.org. If you hit a
| bug in 6.8.2, please try out the 6.8.99.* snapshots to see whether it's
| still present.
|
| Thanks!
| Donnie
do  you want both on one bug or seperate bugs, from your email, you do
want success and problems on bugs.g.o, correct? do you want hardware
info/binary drivers used added?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: metadata cleaning

[Lars Weiler]

* Torsten Veller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/04/20 01:32 +0200]:
> app-cdr/gtoaster

This one is now property of the media-optical herd.

Regards, Lars
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[gentoo-dev] Re: metadata cleaning

[Torsten Veller]

* Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Torsten Veller wrote:
> > 

The following packages are looking for a new home.
Right now they have no-herd and no maintainer:

app-admin/apg
app-admin/cpu
app-cdr/gtoaster
app-doc/djbdns-man
app-laptop/configure-thinkpad
app-pda/synce-multisync_plugin
app-pda/synce-rra
app-xemacs/xemacs-packages-sumo
dev-lang/ifc
dev-lang/pike
dev-lang/squeak
dev-lang/squeak-basicimage
dev-lang/squeak-fullimage
dev-libs/asyncresolv
dev-libs/nettle
dev-php/PEAR-DB_Table
dev-util/bcpp
net-analyzer/sarg
net-dns/djbdns
net-dns/idnkit
net-dns/ldapdns
net-dns/pdns
net-misc/aria
net-misc/bridge-utils
net-misc/netdate
net-nds/directoryadministrator
x11-themes/korilla
x11-themes/noia

I haven't removed:
www-apps/nut [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Maybe add jmglov to the list?  For some reason he isn't on the retired list,
> but he doesn't even have a $HOME on toucan.

Of course i didn't add jmglov. Devrel should remove him first.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Video4Linux and linux headers

[Mike Frysinger]

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 07:06 pm, Greg KH wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 09:57:29PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote:
> > On Monday 18 April 2005 20:27, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > if by commit you mean the profiles then i think you should go make a
> > > list of specific USE flags and drop it onto the gentoo-dev list before
> > > committing :p:p -mike
> >
> > Ok here we are :) This is the list of *global* flags which are linux
> > specific:
> >
> > sysfs
>
> Ugh, why is this global?  It looks like only DirectFB is using it, which
> is hardly a reason to have a global use flag :(

my fault, i'll fix
-mike
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Video4Linux and linux headers

[Greg KH]

On Tue, Apr 19, 2005 at 09:57:29PM +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote:
> On Monday 18 April 2005 20:27, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > if by commit you mean the profiles then i think you should go make a list
> > of specific USE flags and drop it onto the gentoo-dev list before
> > committing :p:p -mike
> 
> Ok here we are :) This is the list of *global* flags which are linux specific:
> 
> sysfs

Ugh, why is this global?  It looks like only DirectFB is using it, which
is hardly a reason to have a global use flag :(

Care to fix this?

thanks,

greg k-h
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> Any indication on the stability of the snapshots. I'm eager to try out all 
> the 
> new sugar, but do want to keep a somewhat stable system.

No guarantees one way or the other, but I'm using it as my regular X.
And unless the stuff gets tested on your hardware, problems won't get
caught and reported. Xorg CVS has traditionally been fairly stable.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 21:45, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
>
> APR and APU are stand-alone and independent of apache, so there is no need
> to p.mask those libs.

They do not coexist with the old apache2 properly as apache2 includes it's own 
version. As did subversion.

Paul

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[gentoo-dev] Fox Package Changes

[Ryan Phillips]

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I have in my bug list a rewrite of the fox packages written by Yaakov
(http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88924)
.  I want to spread
the word
and get some testing/comments for these before they go into portage.
New Features:
~  * Slotted install for different Fox versions
~* Multiple versions of Fox libraries can be installed
~  allowing for applications to choose which version they need
~  * Fox eclass
~  * Doxygen generated documentation
Yaakov has done some great work on the package.  Please help us out.
There is
a tarball (please get the latest one) on the bug posting.
Thanks,
Ryan
Gentoo Developer
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: Diego Pettenò (Flameeyes)

[Luca Barbato]

Jochen Maes wrote:
> please welcome him to the team!
Late welcome, I know...
Thank you for being part of the media borg.. er team.

lu

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Video4Linux and linux headers

[Mike Frysinger]

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 03:57 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> This is the list of *global* flags which are linux specific:

erm i was trying to trick you into doing arch/os specific ones, not just os 
specific :)
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Video4Linux and linux headers

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

On Monday 18 April 2005 20:27, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> if by commit you mean the profiles then i think you should go make a list
> of specific USE flags and drop it onto the gentoo-dev list before
> committing :p:p -mike

Ok here we are :) This is the list of *global* flags which are linux specific:

alsa
direcfb
hal
lirc
lm_sensors
oss (common to netbsd/openbsd)
svga
sysfs
symlink
v4l

I'll try to find the local ones but they are quite.. many :P

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Stefan Schweizer]

On 4/19/05, Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any indication on the stability of the snapshots. I'm eager to try out all the
> new sugar, but do want to keep a somewhat stable system.
> 

works for 5 hours without problems on my system now :)

regards,
Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 10:00, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> I just added a couple of new xorg-x11 ebuilds. 6.8.2-r2 is a work in
> progress and will soon be removed from package.mask and unleashed upon
> the masses. 6.8.99.3 is a development snapshot of CVS HEAD and is part
> of an occasionally released series (roughly every two weeks).
>
> Let me know how things go with them via bugs.gentoo.org. If you hit a
> bug in 6.8.2, please try out the 6.8.99.* snapshots to see whether it's
> still present.

Any indication on the stability of the snapshots. I'm eager to try out all the 
new sugar, but do want to keep a somewhat stable system.

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

[Elfyn McBratney]

On Tuesday 19 Apr 2005 20:31, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Saturday 16 April 2005 14:38, Paul Varner wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 06:56 +0100, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> > > The way I see it, we have three options:
> > >  - package.mask (downgrades for those early adopters)
> > >  - keep the same layout (/etc/apache2/conf, etc.) and wait until 2.2 is
> > > out to change it
> > >  - have the newer apache ebuilds migrate from old-style to new-style
> > > config (very hard to do, but possible)
> >
> > As a user whose apache install is completely hosed at the moment due to
> > these changes, my recommendation is all the above, with it being package
> > masked immediately.
>
> I disagree. This will actually put you in an inconsistent state as the old
> apache overlaps with apr/apr-util. What I think would be the best solution
> is to undo the config changes, but keep the apr change in a new ebuild set
> that get's updated to (up or downgrading I don't care).

APR and APU are stand-alone and independent of apache, so there is no need to 
p.mask those libs.

Best,
Elfyn

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatically replace -mtune= with -mcpu= if not supported by gcc?!

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Sunday 17 April 2005 15:50, Philipp Hasse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently noticed that portage executes the file bashrc located in
> /etc/portage before every ebuild.
> This way it can be used to set the -mcpu and -mtune flags correctly.
> If you add the following to this file everything goes automatically:
>
> <--- SNIP --->
> # Automatically replace -mtune= with -mcpu if not supported by gcc
> # and vice versa.
> echo "" | gcc -mtune=i386 -E - > /dev/null 2> /dev/null
> if [ $? == 0 ]; then
> export CFLAGS=`echo $CFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mcpu=/-mtune=/'`
> export CXXFLAGS=`echo $CXXFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mcpu=/-mtune=/'`
> else
> export CFLAGS=`echo $CFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mtune=/-mcpu=/'`
> export CXXFLAGS=`echo $CXXFLAGS | /bin/sed 's/-mtune=/-mcpu=/'`
> fi
> <--- SNIP --->
>
> Maybe someone can give me a feedback if this is good idea or if I missed
> something for some exotic situation this will fail.
>
> Why doesn't portage do this automatically by itself? If it encounters an
> -mtuneÂ= option in make.conf and gcc doesn't support it it replaces it
> with -mcpu=?!

It actually does (or did) the -mcpu to -mtune for newer gcc versions. This 
creates all kinds of havoc if you want to compile a 3.3 gcc by a 3.4 gcc 
(this works when not specifying -mcpu). It is so agressive that if you do try 
to reverse this in your bashrc, it gets reversed again to -mtune. As it's 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo as a development platform

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Sunday 17 April 2005 02:07, Daniel Drake wrote:
> Francesco Riosa wrote:
> > Why do you semply add a "cat-ego/pack-cvs/pack-cvs.ebuild" near
> > "cat-ego/pack/pack.ebuild" without get bothered with virtual and similar
> > you can simply unmerge and remerge the brother package.
> > There are many examples of merging from cvs in portage tree.
>
> Portage doesn't contain many cvs ebuilds. Writing one might not be that
> much hassle, but why should I have to? We already have functional ebuilds
> to build that particular package, and I have some slightly newer source
> code (e.g. in my homedir) that I want it to build instead.
>
> If I did write a cvs ebuild, it would check out the sources *again* from
> CVS, into /usr/portage/distfiles (I guess...). This is redundant and will
> take quite a bit of time for larger packages. While this not that much of a
> problem, one of my motives behind this is that I want to improve
> productivity. Writing an ebuild *again* which checks out the sources
> *again* doesn't really go in this direction.

My approach to this problem is most of the time to do the first steps on the 
cvs tree (make -f Makefile.cvs) to create the configure script. Then pack 
this up in a tarbal. Copy the old ebuild to my overlay, with a new name (or 
revision in the -r990 -r999 range). Change the source location in the new 
ebuild. Digest the stuff. And emerge it.

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Saturday 16 April 2005 14:38, Paul Varner wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 06:56 +0100, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> > The way I see it, we have three options:
> >  - package.mask (downgrades for those early adopters)
> >  - keep the same layout (/etc/apache2/conf, etc.) and wait until 2.2 is
> > out to change it
> >  - have the newer apache ebuilds migrate from old-style to new-style
> > config (very hard to do, but possible)
>
> As a user whose apache install is completely hosed at the moment due to
> these changes, my recommendation is all the above, with it being package
> masked immediately.

I disagree. This will actually put you in an inconsistent state as the old 
apache overlaps with apr/apr-util. What I think would be the best solution is 
to undo the config changes, but keep the apr change in a new ebuild set that 
get's updated to (up or downgrading I don't care).

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] USE=pic reminder

[Paul de Vrieze]

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 00:04, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 18 April 2005 05:04 pm, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> > On Monday 18 April 2005 22:50, John Huttley wrote:
> > > I have been compiling everything recently with pic and pie.
> > > I thought this would be a prerequisite for effective use of "prelink".
> >
> > It's a prerequisite for prelinking shared libraries, afaik.
>
> correct

Even on x86 normal (non-prelinked) shared libraries should be built with 
-fPIC. They will however continue to function (albeight slower) when not 
built properly.

Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] circular moves

[Henrik Brix Andersen]

On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 17:09 +0200, Marius Mauch wrote:
> 2Q-2003:move sys-apps/lm_sensors sys-apps/lm-sensors

Fixed.

./Brix
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Henrik Brix Andersen]

On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 11:15 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
>  Is there a list of "major" changes for X.Org 6.9.0 (or whatever release
>  6.8.99.* is leading to) somewhere? How far do you estimate this release
>  to be away?

http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/#head-7f9963a87b2eb461fc821f70af0cecbb33788ba8

Don't you just love wiki links? 

./Brix
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[gentoo-dev] current symlink on the mirrors

[Jeffrey Forman]

Hey all,

Per a recent dev feature request, I have created a "current" symlink on
the mirrors in each architecture's release directory to point to their
latest release. This should give people the option of coding to
the /$arch/current/ directory if they so choose to.

What they point to at this point:
alpha/current -> 2005.0
amd64/current -> 2005.0
hppa/current -> 2004.3
ia64/current -> 2005.0
ppc/current -> 2005.0
ppc64/current -> 2005.0
sparc/current -> 2005.0
x86/current -> 2005.0

I will keep this updated per each release. Cheers!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] metadata cleaning

[Aaron Walker]

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Torsten Veller wrote:
> After kloeri and beu have removed chriswhite from metadata.xml
> i'd volunteer to clean some more:
> 
> 
> for removal:
> 
> jhhudso
> tad
> jake
> raker
> yakina
> datashark
> scandium
> darkspecter
> prez (is on inactive list too! - preston is returning?)
> agenkin
> 
> dev names are from:
> 
> 
> I'd volunteer to remove them tonight (2100UTC-).

Maybe add jmglov to the list?  For some reason he isn't on the retired list,
but he doesn't even have a $HOME on toucan.

$ herdstat -dpn jmglov
Parsing metadata.xml's: 100%
Developer:   Josh Glover (jmglov)
Email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Packages(10):app-dicts/gjiten
 app-doc/NaturalDocs
 app-doc/mkdoxy
 app-emulation/vmware-console
 dev-libs/libsqlora8
 media-sound/choad
 net-misc/gip
 net-misc/ssh-installkeys
 www-apps/online-bookmarks
 www-misc/bookmarksync

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Re: [gentoo-dev] (media-video) ffmpeg and a52dec

[Luca Barbato]

Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> 
> I think from here we can move toward having ffmpeg stable in the next weeks 
> (at least I hope :) ), for vlc purposes the target keywords are x86 and amd64 
> (I can test it for the latter), so the ppc bug can be ignored for now, but 
> ffmpeg has many other arches to consider so it's something which needs 
> careful attentions.
> 
I'll take care about ppc related stuff.
What about the other arches?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Category rename

[Michael Cummings]

On Tuesday 19 April 2005 07:22 am, Markus Nigbur wrote:
> I wouldn't search for socks proxy software in a www category either.
> net-proxy sounds much more appealing.

Especially since there is more to proxy in a network than just www traffic 
(EGADS, say it isn't so!!!) :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Category rename

[Markus Nigbur]

On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 08:07 +0100, Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 Apr 2005 07:54, Alin Nastac wrote:
> > Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> > >On Tuesday 19 Apr 2005 06:34, Alin Nastac wrote:
> > >>IMO, www-proxy should be renamed to net-proxy, for allowing me to move
> > >>various SOCKS packages into it.
> > >>The packages qualified for moving are:
> > >> - net-misc/3proxy
> > >> - net-misc/dante
> > >> - net-misc/nylon
> > >> - net-misc/tsocks
> > >>
> > >>I also think now is the time for creating another category containing
> > >>all types of tunnels found in net-misc
> > >>
> > >>Thoughts?
> > >
> > >Leave as is.  Read the metadata.xml for www-proxy:
> > >
> > >  The www-proxy category contains network proxy software.
> >
> > I am aware of that. However, in the event I move socks to this category,
> > the name is misleading. I will not move 'em unless the name is changed.
> 
> Just because the category is prefixed with 'www' ?  That's silly (imo), but 
> hey, it's your choice...

I wouldn't search for socks proxy software in a www category either.
net-proxy sounds much more appealing.

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[gentoo-dev] metadata cleaning

[Torsten Veller]

After kloeri and beu have removed chriswhite from metadata.xml
i'd volunteer to clean some more:


for removal:

jhhudso
tad
jake
raker
yakina
datashark
scandium
darkspecter
prez (is on inactive list too! - preston is returning?)
agenkin

dev names are from:


I'd volunteer to remove them tonight (2100UTC-).
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Sebastian Bergmann]

Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> 6.8.99.3 is a development snapshot of CVS HEAD and is part of an
> occasionally released series (roughly every two weeks).

 Is there a list of "major" changes for X.Org 6.9.0 (or whatever release
 6.8.99.* is leading to) somewhere? How far do you estimate this release
 to be away?

 Thanks,
Sebastian

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[gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

[Donnie Berkholz]

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I just added a couple of new xorg-x11 ebuilds. 6.8.2-r2 is a work in
progress and will soon be removed from package.mask and unleashed upon
the masses. 6.8.99.3 is a development snapshot of CVS HEAD and is part
of an occasionally released series (roughly every two weeks).

Let me know how things go with them via bugs.gentoo.org. If you hit a
bug in 6.8.2, please try out the 6.8.99.* snapshots to see whether it's
still present.

Thanks!
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Category rename

[Elfyn McBratney]

On Tuesday 19 Apr 2005 07:54, Alin Nastac wrote:
> Elfyn McBratney wrote:
> >On Tuesday 19 Apr 2005 06:34, Alin Nastac wrote:
> >>IMO, www-proxy should be renamed to net-proxy, for allowing me to move
> >>various SOCKS packages into it.
> >>The packages qualified for moving are:
> >> - net-misc/3proxy
> >> - net-misc/dante
> >> - net-misc/nylon
> >> - net-misc/tsocks
> >>
> >>I also think now is the time for creating another category containing
> >>all types of tunnels found in net-misc
> >>
> >>Thoughts?
> >
> >Leave as is.  Read the metadata.xml for www-proxy:
> >
> >  The www-proxy category contains network proxy software.
>
> I am aware of that. However, in the event I move socks to this category,
> the name is misleading. I will not move 'em unless the name is changed.

Just because the category is prefixed with 'www' ?  That's silly (imo), but 
hey, it's your choice...

Best,
Elfyn

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev Vibhav Garg (vgarg)

[Juergen Hoetzel]

On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 08:41:35AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:50:42 +0200 Jochen Maes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | He's a yoga-meditating Java monkey what seems to me an excellent mix.
> | I'm sure some off u guys/gals will suck this up by stating that Java
> | sucks...
> | WELL YOU ARE WRONG!
> 
> No, Python sucks. But Java... Sucks does not even *begin* to describe
> how bad it is.
> 
I though Gentoo is python's killer OS in almost the same manner as
Zope is python's killer Application ;)

Jürgen
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