Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: dang

2005-05-22 Thread Chris White
Jason Huebel wrote:
 It's with pleasure that I announce a new developer: Dang.  Dang has been
 working as an Arch Tester for AMD64 for a while now and has proven himself
 to be an asset to the team.  So we felt it would be good to officially make
 him a developer.  He'll be helping with amd64 bug squashing of course, along
 with helping out the gnome herd.

 Welcome dang!

really bad series of puns
Dang man.. it's good to have you on board dang.

But dang, that's a lot of amd64 devs now.  I mean.. dang...

but dangit, that's ok.
/really bad series of puns

Welcome to the team ;).


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[gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten
Hi,
ok another problem for Gentoo/FreeBSD project :P
Currently there are a few places where, to fix permissions of files, the 
ebuilds does a chown -R root:root ${D} or something similar.
Unfortunately such a command is invalid on G/FBSD because there's no root 
group, instead wheel group has GID=0.

So I was wondering for a solution for this problem: we have a $USERLAND 
variable which can be used to select the way the chown must be done, if chown 
root:root or chown root:wheel; I think both BSD and Darwin userland prefers 
root:wheel above root:root, so maybe adding a function in eutils which fixes 
the permissions based on the current $USERLAND value is enough...

Comments?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: slight deunofficialisation of Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide

2005-05-22 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 22 May 2005 04:35 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 I'd like to move the Unofficial Gentoo Development Guide [1] onto my
 devspace [2]. This could be construed as weakening its unofficial status
 (despite the title and the footers), so I'm asking for comments first
 rather than simply doing it.

i'm all for it

 I'll simply withdraw this request. 

that'd be a loss for developers ... really, if you have a problem with the 
guide, chances are you suck at life

 Suggestions, contributions [10], requests, clarifications, hints about
 the many many typos, complaints etc to me via email.

hope you dont mind trivial stuff ;)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 22 May 2005 10:49:39 +0200 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| So I was wondering for a solution for this problem: we have a
| $USERLAND  variable which can be used to select the way the chown must
| be done, if chown  root:root or chown root:wheel; I think both BSD and
| Darwin userland prefers  root:wheel above root:root, so maybe adding a
| function in eutils which fixes  the permissions based on the current
| $USERLAND value is enough...

get_root_group() {
if use userland_bsd ; then
echo wheel
else
echo root
fi
}

maybe?

The other option is to do a sneaky chown wrapper that automatically
detects that kind of thing. I'm against that on general principle
because it'll break too often.

I'll unofficial-document whatever's decided upon, anyway.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Stuart Longland
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 Hi,
 ok another problem for Gentoo/FreeBSD project :P
 Currently there are a few places where, to fix permissions of files, the 
 ebuilds does a chown -R root:root ${D} or something similar.
 Unfortunately such a command is invalid on G/FBSD because there's no root 
 group, instead wheel group has GID=0.

Why not just use `chmod -R 0:0 ${D}`?  That should have the desired effect?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten
On Sunday 22 May 2005 11:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 get_root_group() {
That should do, so in ebuilds chown -R root;$(get_root_group) blablah.
For me is ok for G/FBSD.

Now, if someone from G/OSX or G/Darwin can tell me how they manage that, we 
can be happy for all /alt archs :P

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Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 22 May 2005 05:06 am, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 get_root_group() {

sounds like a lot of crap when i'm willing to bet most of these chowns 
probably dont need to specify the group at all ...
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: dang

2005-05-22 Thread Michael Cummings
Are we allowed to make aw dang jokes now? Oh, wait, I see someone already has.
My job here is done.

Welcome aboard :)


On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 12:57:30AM -0500, Jason Huebel wrote:
 It's with pleasure that I announce a new developer: Dang.  Dang has been 
 working as an Arch Tester for AMD64 for a while now and has proven himself 
 to be an asset to the team.  So we felt it would be good to officially make 
 him a developer.  He'll be helping with amd64 bug squashing of course, along 
 with helping out the gnome herd.
 
 Welcome dang!
 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: dang

2005-05-22 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 22 May 2005 08:04:38 -0400 Michael Cummings
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Are we allowed to make aw dang jokes now?

No.

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[gentoo-dev] bacula needs lovin'!

2005-05-22 Thread Rob Holland
Ey peeps,

Can someone please take a look at the bacula ebuilds, they really do
suck and have several open bugs.

Quite how any of them are marked stable I dunno.

They could use a new maintainer, seems zul is now inactive.

Cheers,

Rob

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Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Alec Warner

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Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
| Hi,
| ok another problem for Gentoo/FreeBSD project :P
| Currently there are a few places where, to fix permissions of files, the
| ebuilds does a chown -R root:root ${D} or something similar.
| Unfortunately such a command is invalid on G/FBSD because there's no root
| group, instead wheel group has GID=0.
|
| So I was wondering for a solution for this problem: we have a $USERLAND
| variable which can be used to select the way the chown must be done,
if chown
| root:root or chown root:wheel; I think both BSD and Darwin userland
prefers
| root:wheel above root:root, so maybe adding a function in eutils which
fixes
| the permissions based on the current $USERLAND value is enough...
|
| Comments?
|
Yeah, this means get working on GLEP 27 *cracks whip*.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0027.html
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Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Sunday 22 May 2005 16:38, Alec Warner wrote:
 Yeah, this means get working on GLEP 27 *cracks whip*.
Don't think it's related.
That's related to new accounts/group added.
The problem we have is with the base accounts/groups present in the system 
itself.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] root:root and fbsd

2005-05-22 Thread Kito

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On May 22, 2005, at 4:20 AM, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:


On Sunday 22 May 2005 11:06, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

get_root_group() {
That should do, so in ebuilds chown -R root;$(get_root_group) 
blablah.

For me is ok for G/FBSD.

Now, if someone from G/OSX or G/Darwin can tell me how they manage 
that, we

can be happy for all /alt archs :P


Add the extra conditional for userland_Darwin and that should be good 
for all the Gentoo redheaded step-children.




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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: dang

2005-05-22 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz
On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 09:59 -0500, Homer Parker wrote:
 On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 00:57 -0500, Jason Huebel wrote:
  It's with pleasure that I announce a new developer: Dang.  Dang has been 
  working as an Arch Tester for AMD64 for a while now and has proven 
  himself 
  to be an asset to the team.  So we felt it would be good to officially make 
  him a developer.  He'll be helping with amd64 bug squashing of course, 
  along 
  with helping out the gnome herd.
  
  Welcome dang!
  
 
   /me needs to recruit more ATs... But, that's ok.. Congratz Dan!!!
 

Thanks, all. (And yes, I've heard all the jokes before... :) )

Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-dev] .keep files

2005-05-22 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:37:53 -0700
Drake Wyrm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I always thought that they were to keep 'emerge unmerge' from removing
  an empty directory, but I could be wrong...
 
 That, and to keep portage from removing empty directories during the
 post-merge clean phase. Were it not for the .keep files, portage would
 cheerfully remove any empty directories the first time the package was
 upgraded.

Wouldn't it be possible for portage to just compare a dir in live filesystem
and in the emerge image, and if the dir in image contains .keep file, the live
dir wouldn't get deleted?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

2005-05-22 Thread Beber [Gentoo]
Hi

Xorg 6.8.99.5 really works good.
I've see that 6.8.99.7 have been released in CVS. Did you make some test ?

[ Also, I've made some ebuilds dor XCB, if you are interested :
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93582 ]

See Ya
Beber,

On 4/19/05, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 progress and will soon be removed from package.mask and unleashed upon
 the masses. 6.8.99.3 is a development snapshot of CVS HEAD and is part
 of an occasionally released series (roughly every two weeks).
 
 Let me know how things go with them via bugs.gentoo.org. If you hit a
 bug in 6.8.2, please try out the 6.8.99.* snapshots to see whether it's
 still present.
 
 Thanks!
 Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] .keep files

2005-05-22 Thread Marius Mauch

Andrej Kacian wrote:

On Sat, 21 May 2005 17:37:53 -0700
Drake Wyrm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I always thought that they were to keep 'emerge unmerge' from removing
an empty directory, but I could be wrong...


That, and to keep portage from removing empty directories during the
post-merge clean phase. Were it not for the .keep files, portage would
cheerfully remove any empty directories the first time the package was
upgraded.



Wouldn't it be possible for portage to just compare a dir in live filesystem
and in the emerge image, and if the dir in image contains .keep file, the live
dir wouldn't get deleted?



That dir isn't available at that point. And even if it would be, won't 
help as directories can be owned by multiple packages, and you 
definitely don't want to cross-check all installed packages for file 
ownership.


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[gentoo-dev] Removing svga from default USE flags

2005-05-22 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi,

I don't really see why USE=svga is enabled by default. This brings svgalib
into emerge system. svgalib is quite problematic and not used much anymore.

Any objections to dropping it from the default USE flags?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Some new xorg ebuilds

2005-05-22 Thread Donnie Berkholz
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Beber [Gentoo] wrote:
 Xorg 6.8.99.5 really works good.
 I've see that 6.8.99.7 have been released in CVS. Did you make some test ?

No, not yet. But bumping them is pretty trivial and low priority. I do
it when I get around to it.

 [ Also, I've made some ebuilds dor XCB, if you are interested :
 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93582 ]

I saw them. Thanks! I'm looking forward to when this is available in Xorg.

Donnie
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