On Jun 6, 2005, at 4:55 PM, Aron Griffis wrote:
This is kinda bloggish, because it's basically a transcription of an
IRC monologue. My apologies if it's hard to follow... Nonetheless,
I'm interested in how other developers feel on the topics I bring up
below.
overlay capabilities are under
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
>I've got a Zaurus; it's running some kind of Linux
>and I'll probably put Gentoo on it when I get some spare cycles,
>provided Gentoo runs on the 6000. But I'm sure as hell not gonna try to
>run R or TeXmacs or Maxima on it!
>
>
>
Dang -- I just remembered -- I *
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 21:51 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> One thing that people might want to remember, if Gentoo ever changes
> into a "real, we take your money for support" type of distro, a lot of
> the employers of the us developers might reconsider allowing them to
> participate. Which would prett
I'm not a developer, but I'm a Gentoo bigot and I'd like to join the
discussion :).
Aron Griffis wrote:
>
>In my humble opinion, Gentoo is missing too many points to be an
>enterprise Linux. We commit to a live tree. We don't have true QA,
>testing or tinderbox. We don't have paid staff, alpha
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:55:50PM -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
> I'd like Gentoo to be a place where neat things are developed.
> If RH or SuSE (or another for-profit Linux vendor) wants to take some
> of those developments and use them to make a profit, that's fine with
> me. We're over here havin
On Monday 06 June 2005 20:36, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> you really cant make that kind of general statement and expect it to
> hold ... often times there are packages where newer versions suck more
> than previous ones (the way in which they suck i leave up to your
> imagination) ... security/stable
On Monday 06 June 2005 11:29 pm, Dylan Carlson wrote:
> On Monday 06 June 2005 19:45, Collins Richey wrote:
> > 2. Enterprise users (as a general rule) are not interested in the
> > latest and greatest but rather in a stable, reasonably current system
> > that can remain in place (with guaranteed s
On Monday 06 June 2005 19:45, Collins Richey wrote:
> 2. Enterprise users (as a general rule) are not interested in the
> latest and greatest but rather in a stable, reasonably current system
> that can remain in place (with guaranteed security fixes, of course)
> with no "feature creep" for a few
My $.02 after reading a lot of discussions on the CentOS (ie free
REHL4) list is this:
1. Many Enterprise users are looking for an SLA, ie someone who will
guarantee to fix anything that breaks in a specified period of time.
Such users have the big bucks to pay for such a guarantee. I'm sure
that
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 19:55 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
> In my humble opinion, Gentoo is missing too many points to be an
> enterprise Linux. We commit to a live tree. We don't have true QA,
> testing or tinderbox. We don't have paid staff, alpha/beta/rc cycles.
> We don't really have product li
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Dylan Carlson wrote:
> On Monday 06 June 2005 16:55, Aron Griffis wrote:
>
>>I think that attempting to take Gentoo in the "enterprise" direction
>>is a mistake. I think that we are a hobbyist distribution. This
>>doesn't mean that we should not str
On Monday 06 June 2005 16:55, Aron Griffis wrote:
> I think that attempting to take Gentoo in the "enterprise" direction
> is a mistake. I think that we are a hobbyist distribution. This
> doesn't mean that we should not strive to meet some of the enterprise
> goals. Those things can be importan
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 19:55 -0400, Aron Griffis wrote:
> In my humble opinion, Gentoo is missing too many points to be an
> enterprise Linux. We commit to a live tree. We don't have true QA,
> testing or tinderbox. We don't have paid staff, alpha/beta/rc cycles.
> We don't really have product
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Aron Griffis wrote:
> I have worked in the enterprise
> UNIX market for 6 years. My code is running in places like NASA
> mission control, 9-1-1 call centers, and most of the telephone
> carriers. I've produced patches on weekends to close $800m deal
This is kinda bloggish, because it's basically a transcription of an
IRC monologue. My apologies if it's hard to follow... Nonetheless,
I'm interested in how other developers feel on the topics I bring up
below.
There have been some really interesting points brought up recently
about "where is G
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Monday 06 June 2005 06:26 pm, Aron Griffis wrote:
>
>>alpha
>
>
> i'm all for alpha (as many know seeing as how they've cursed me profusely
> when
> i first started doing it) ... seeing as how i tend to mark for 4 or 5 arches,
> alpha is a huge help since i know
* Aron Griffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [05/06/06 18:26 -0400]:
> alpha
> -
> - looks nicer (subjective)
> - easier to tell at a glance if a given keyword is in the list
I'm for this. You can easily compare two ebuilds' KEYWORDS,
when you have the same order.
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Aron Griffis wrote:
As some of you have noticed, I made a change recently in ekeyword that
causes ekeyword to alphabetize the keywords. I've realized I should
The games team has been alphabetizing keywords for some time. Just an
added datapoint.
Michael Sterrett
-Mr. B
On Monday 06 June 2005 06:26 pm, Aron Griffis wrote:
> alpha
i'm all for alpha (as many know seeing as how they've cursed me profusely when
i first started doing it) ... seeing as how i tend to mark for 4 or 5 arches,
alpha is a huge help since i know about where to look in the list
also, t
Hi guys,
As some of you have noticed, I made a change recently in ekeyword that
causes ekeyword to alphabetize the keywords. I've realized I should
have brought it up for discussion before making the change to the
program. On that note, I apologize for unilaterally making that
change without con
I'm with Ned & fozer on this, in general at least. This is the second time this
issue has come up over the last month or so; it's what kicks off the flat-tree
debate. My preference in practice is to leave the current tree allocation of
packages to categories well alone (to avoid unnecessary dis
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José Alberto Suárez López wrote:
> hey!!
> congratulations :)
Thanks a lot BaSS, Glad to be here ;)
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Gentoo Documentation Project - http://gdp.gentoo.org
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El lun, 06-06-2005 a las 17:03 +0100, Tom Martin escribió:
> Hi list,
>
> Shyam Mani, or fox2mike as some of you know him, has just joined up to
> help out with documentation. He lives in Bangalore, India, having been
> born in Dubai. Having just finished his Bachelor of
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Tom Martin wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> Shyam Mani, or fox2mike as some of you know him, has just joined up to
> help out with documentation. He lives in Bangalore, India, having been
> born in Dubai. Having just finished his Bachelor of Engineering in
> Co
Hi list,
Shyam Mani, or fox2mike as some of you know him, has just joined up to
help out with documentation. He lives in Bangalore, India, having been
born in Dubai. Having just finished his Bachelor of Engineering in
Computer Science, he now works for a technology consutancy firm called
Exocore.
On Monday 06 June 2005 23:06, sf wrote:
> I always thought it was known that fixpackages is a non-working kludge;
> my portage tree/binary packages get messed up with almost every package
> move, rename etc.
>
> If fixpackages is supposed to be working who should I assign my soon to
> be regular, e
Michael Cummings wrote:
> Solar,
> I realize you meant this as a general statement of opinion and not a
> flame-baiter, but can you elaborate on:
>
> On Sunday 05 June 2005 11:37, Ned Ludd wrote:
>> Invalidates binary package trees.
>
> My (wrong?) understanding was that this is addressed
On Sunday 05 June 2005 23:55, Ned Ludd wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 16:57 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
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> > Well obviously there needs to be a consensus on *how* to logically
> > organize things before anyone goes willy nilly changing
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