Re: kde-theme.py (formerly [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass)

2005-06-14 Thread Chris White
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:39:25 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You do know that wget has the "-O" option to specify the name of the > downloaded file. Of course that means you can't regex, but you could probably > do that from wget's output. well I did know about -O (in fact, it

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Stefan Briesenick (sbriesen)

2005-06-14 Thread Alin Nastac
Tom Martin wrote: >Please welcome Stefan on board. > >Regards, >Tom > > > The source of ISDN-related bugs has been shut down :) Congratulatons, Stefan! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Wegener wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:43PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > >>I'm in favor of this. Would you mind calling it package.autouse, >>package.use.auto or are you set on .force? > > > As Mike already wrote those names are too confus

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Sven Wegener
On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 06:56:43PM -0400, Ned Ludd wrote: > I'm in favor of this. Would you mind calling it package.autouse, > package.use.auto or are you set on .force? As Mike already wrote those names are too confusing with the automatic activated USE flags. We already had some suggestions in

Re: [gentoo-dev] The results of an evening of Apache and PAM debugging

2005-06-14 Thread Anthony Gorecki
On Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:44 pm, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > You know that the "normal" way of doing this is to use ldap and krb5 In my opinion, LDAP, by design, is a piece of garbage. I understand the principle of its design, however I've never found that design to be beneficial for my needs. Bef

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Sven Wegener
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 01:46:22PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > Sven Wegener wrote: > >On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:08:09PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > > >>Sven Wegener wrote: > >> > >> > >>>use.force might not be the best name, but it's what we do with it for > >>>most of our users. Being able to -

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Joshua Baergen
Ok, so paraphrase. :P On 6/14/05, Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Joshua Baergen wrote: > > 1) We don't want to undermine bugzilla's function. Yes, it's noisy, > > but a suitably motivated individual (to use Donnie's catchphrase) c

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 06:52 pm, Marius Mauch wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:32:06 +0200 > > Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think gcc-config should depend on portage at all. Or does it > > actually use portage services. In any case it should be an RDEPEND, > > as building d

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-14 Thread Marius Mauch
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 23:32:06 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think gcc-config should depend on portage at all. Or does it > actually use portage services. In any case it should be an RDEPEND, > as building does not depend on portage being there. Hmm, how do you build an

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Bryan Oestergaard
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:02:45PM +0900, Chris White wrote: > > > I tend to agree. > > > > Want to make something nice to help with bugzilla? How about a page > > with some good queries already setup for different things that would be > > common. Say something like searching for all bugs that

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-14 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 05:32 pm, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > I don't think gcc-config should depend on portage at all. Or does it > actually use portage services. In any case it should be an RDEPEND, as > building does not depend on portage being there. it was added when `portageq` didnt exist everyw

Re: [gentoo-dev] The results of an evening of Apache and PAM debugging

2005-06-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 13:17, Anthony Gorecki wrote: > > Does anyone have a suggestion that would fit the requirements, other than > using mod_auth_external, coupled with an authentication program? An > interface to Cyrus-SASL would be ideal since I already have saslauthd > running for Postfix. >

Re: kde-theme.py (formerly [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass)

2005-06-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Wednesday 15 June 2005 03:06, Chris White wrote: > 4) It downloads the file into a directory called .temp_directory, which > must be empty (it will yell if it's not) 5) it does a directory listing to > get the name of the source archive (yes, it must be empty because it has to > be the only file

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 23:15, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:50:05PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > > (Trimmed to make things shorter) > > > [ebuild N] dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r4 +berkdb > > > [ebuild N] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2 +java > > > [ebuild N]

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Baergen wrote: > 1) We don't want to undermine bugzilla's function. Yes, it's noisy, > but a suitably motivated individual (to use Donnie's catchphrase) can > find what they're looking for. I used the word "individual" in reference to a person

Re: [gentoo-dev] Even More Portage Bashrc Fun

2005-06-14 Thread Michael Tindal
Rumen Yotov wrote: > Michael Tindal wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>So a long time ago solar wrote a bashrc for portage, and posted it on >>this mailing list for everyone to see. I took it, and started extending >>it with various things of my own design, and some contributions from >>others. I've sinc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > Won't work. First it would introduce a single point of failure. If we'd > really follow this route there has to be a role for this, not a user. > Then how are people supposed to know about this in teh first place? I > wouldn't exp

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-14 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 10:50:05PM +0200, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > (Trimmed to make things shorter) > > [ebuild N] dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r4 +berkdb > > [ebuild N] sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2 +java > > [ebuild N] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.01-r2 > > (glibc, gcc, gcc-config

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Joshua Baergen
On 6/14/05, Jonathan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris White wrote: > > [snip] > > if you feel that I have handled the situation properly regarding your > > voicing, please send an email to dev-relations and I'll be happy to work > > thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:05:21 +0900 Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for > > >>voice to speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' > > >>smokescreen ? > > My intentions in this email were regarding the above worries

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Stefan Briesenick (sbriesen)

2005-06-14 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Am Dienstag 14 Juni 2005 22:11 schrieb Tom Martin: [..] > Please welcome Stefan on board. > > Regards, > Tom Welcome Stefan, now you are finally able to add your work to the tree yourself, congrats! Regards, Stefan pgpOyCXAPhZbW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Senno During (st3vie)

2005-06-14 Thread Maurice van der Pot
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 04:16:17PM -0400, Aaron Walker wrote: > i'm 28 years old, from a city called Beverwijk (30km west from Amsterdam, 30km, ey? I hope you're a good swimmer ;) Anyway, welcome to the team! Groeten, Maurice -- Maurice van der Pot Gentoo Linux Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] perl/openssl circular dep, possible solution (python/perl/db devs please read)

2005-06-14 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 13 June 2005 19:18, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > The bug hit me while working with GLI last night, and now I really do > need a solution for it. Looking at the dep tree to see why perl pulls > in openssl, the critical parts of the tree are this: > > (Trimmed to make things shorter) > [ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris White wrote: > [snip] > if you feel that I have handled the situation properly regarding your > voicing, please send an email to dev-relations and I'll be happy to work > things out. > [snip] just to clarify: you mean improperly, right? why wo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Jan Kundrát
Chris White wrote: > I plan to create somewhat of a consistant contact point between irc users > that want a voice in dev. Are you awake 24/7/365? If not, I probably misunderstood your message. If someone goes to IRC, he (IMHO) wants to discuss stuff *right now* and don't want to wait for you to

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Senno During (st3vie)

2005-06-14 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aaron Walker wrote: > Greetings, > > Please give a nice Gentoo-ized welcome to Senno During (st3vie). Senno will > be > leading the Dutch GWN Translation team (actually he has been for several > weeks). > > Ripped from his quiz: > > i'm 28 years

[gentoo-dev] Intent to help with #gentoo-dev voicing issues

2005-06-14 Thread Chris White
> >>might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for voice to > >>speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' smokescreen ? My intentions in this email were regarding the above worries about things. I plan to create somewhat of a consistant contact point between irc user

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Senno During (st3vie)

2005-06-14 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, Please give a nice Gentoo-ized welcome to Senno During (st3vie). Senno will be leading the Dutch GWN Translation team (actually he has been for several weeks). Ripped from his quiz: i'm 28 years old, from a city called Beverwijk (30km we

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Stefan Briesenick (sbriesen)

2005-06-14 Thread Tom Martin
Hi list, Stefan is joining us to help with the net-dialup herd for isdn-related packages. He comes from Gaggenau in the Alsace region (near the French border, for those unfamiliar with the geography of the region) of Germany and he is 35 years old. Stefan has been married for five years, and he h

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Chris White
> I tend to agree. > > Want to make something nice to help with bugzilla? How about a page > with some good queries already setup for different things that would be > common. Say something like searching for all bugs that are NEW that > have EBUILD in the KEYWORDS? How about all bugs that have

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 21:01 +0200, Simon Stelling wrote: > Hi, > > Chris White wrote: > > on a minor note, I was thinking of maybe a somewhat small > > comprehensive list of major problems and ways to solve them. > > I know we do have bugzilla, but bugzilla is kind of full of noise > > (look at al

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Simon Stelling
Hi, Chris White wrote: > on a minor note, I was thinking of maybe a somewhat small > comprehensive list of major problems and ways to solve them. > I know we do have bugzilla, but bugzilla is kind of full of noise > (look at all them bugs!). Therefore, I think a small page with > major stuff like

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Joshua Baergen
On 6/14/05, Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 20:24 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:49:28 +0900 > > Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > on a minor note, I was thinking of maybe a somewhat small comprehensive > > > list > > > of maj

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 20:24 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:49:28 +0900 > Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on a minor note, I was thinking of maybe a somewhat small comprehensive list > > of major problems and ways to solve them. I know we do have bugzilla, but >

Re: [gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:49:28 +0900 Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on a minor note, I was thinking of maybe a somewhat small comprehensive list > of major problems and ways to solve them. I know we do have bugzilla, but > bugzilla is kind of full of noise (look at all them bugs!). There

[gentoo-dev] chriswhite herd(?) status update

2005-06-14 Thread Chris White
Since I'm really not in a particular herd, here's a couple of goals I have for getting Gentoo into a better state: 1) First off, working on the kde-theme.py package. I've been working on it left and right and it's nicely progressing, we'll see where it goes 2) Helping get some ebuilds that are

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 19:46, Alec Warner wrote: > It seems like this is an abuse of USE flags, somewhat. I guess programs > could have support for elibc_X or elibc_Y or userland_GNU or > userland_DARWIN/BSD but why a USE flag for these? Because sometimes we must disable some dependency depending

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
Sven Wegener wrote: On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:08:09PM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: Sven Wegener wrote: use.force might not be the best name, but it's what we do with it for most of our users. Being able to -flag in /etc/portage/profile/use.force is just because /etc/portage/profile gets added

kde-theme.py (formerly [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass)

2005-06-14 Thread Chris White
Ok, so plans have changed. Now I've made a nice little script called kde-theme.py, which I haven't released yet because the code needs more effecient "what on earth are you trying to make me do.. I can't do that!" error handling. Here's the just of it: http://dev.gentoo.org/~chriswhite/kde-th

[gentoo-dev] Kernel status update

2005-06-14 Thread Daniel Drake
John Mylchreest posted these objectives in January. I'm not John so I guess he'll follow up with anything I missed :) >> Migrate all existing ebuilds to kernel-2 and linux-* eclasses. This is progressing and can realistically be completed before the end of the year. >> Push 2.6 for default wher

Re: [gentoo-dev] master-metastructure2005

2005-06-14 Thread Grant Goodyear
Aron Griffis wrote: [Tue Jun 14 2005, 10:12:40AM CDT] > Here is the master ballot for the metastructure2005 election. I will > send out individual emails with confirmation numbers shortly. Thanks to ciaranm, we now have pretty graphs to go along with the results. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear

[gentoo-dev] Release Engineering Status Update

2005-06-14 Thread Chris Gianelloni
In response to Patrick's request for status updates, I'm posting the current Release Engineering status. Release Engineering is well into doing QA and testing for 2005.1 on x86, amd64, ppc, ppc64, ia64, and alpha. We are currently testing a new version of livecd-tools, catalyst, and genkernel, al

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Metastructure vote preliminary results

2005-06-14 Thread Grant Goodyear
Lance Albertson wrote: [Tue Jun 14 2005, 12:04:48AM CDT] > Considering the amount of information we had to go through and parse, > plus the fact some of us were busy, I would say thats not the case at > all. This election so happen to hit in the middle of a large move and > starting of a new job fo

[gentoo-dev] master-metastructure2005

2005-06-14 Thread Aron Griffis
Here is the master ballot for the metastructure2005 election. I will send out individual emails with confirmation numbers shortly. Regards, Aron -- Aron Griffis Gentoo Linux Developer - confirmation 28b6 - Oldschool-small Oldschool-small-with-slacker-boot Task-force Keep-current

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Removal of articles.xml from website

2005-06-14 Thread Shyam Mani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/2005 12:44 PM, Duncan wrote: > I like this idea very much, and would find it highly appropriate for > Daniel's work, the filesystems article, for instance, both because it's > still very useful and informative (with updates adding the > write

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Jan Kundrát
Mike Frysinger wrote: > and is the EXACT reason we have the 'nocxx' USE flag instead of 'cxx' ... if > we put 'USE=cxx' into profiles' make.defaults, people who have USE=-* will > get a broken gcc Well, if you really consider setting USE=-* to cause so much harm, then if you introduce the "cxx"

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jonathan Smith (smithj)

2005-06-14 Thread Markus Nigbur
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 13:59, Jonathan Smith wrote: > yep... sorry for the deluge of emails. Oh, those kind of mails are always a welcomed addition to the standard deluge of mails flooding my mailserver. -- (o_ Markus Nigbur //\ Gentoo GNU/Linux Developer [ ]/_ http://www.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass

2005-06-14 Thread Gregorio Guidi
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 04:19, Brian Jackson wrote: > Chris White wrote: > > Here's the nitty gritty: > > > > -- > > BACKGROUND > > -- > > > > kde-look.org is a site that hosts various kde themes to change the look > > and feel of the kde desktop. > > > > - > > REASONING > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jonathan Smith (smithj)

2005-06-14 Thread Jonathan Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Markus Nigbur wrote: > On Tuesday 14 June 2005 02:59, Mike Doty wrote: > >>Hey all- >> >>Introducing our newest victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hdev, Johnathan Smith. >>smithj(as he's known to his friends) hails from North Carolina, here in >>the US. He's going to

[gentoo-dev] The results of an evening of Apache and PAM debugging

2005-06-14 Thread Anthony Gorecki
This message is fairly long, however I've decided to pass it along in the hope that someone may find it useful as a reference source. It was originally intended to be a problem description and debugging request for the gnomes to ponder over. I've recently encountered an interesting debugging p

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jonathan Smith (smithj)

2005-06-14 Thread Markus Nigbur
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 02:59, Mike Doty wrote: > Hey all- > > Introducing our newest victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hdev, Johnathan Smith. > smithj(as he's known to his friends) hails from North Carolina, here in > the US. He's going to be helping out with desktop-misc items as well as > hopefully helping with

Re: [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass

2005-06-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 11:22, Michael Cummings wrote: > know in 3.4.0 that you can install new wallpapers live from kde-org with an > already integrated single-click The KNewStuff is great but it installs in home directory.. I think it's simple to replicate this using portage instead of using the

Re: [gentoo-dev] intention for kde-themes eclass

2005-06-14 Thread Michael Cummings
Is this even pursuable given the direction KDE itself is taking? Not meant as a nock (specially not after someone brought up a g-cpan-esque clone:) but I know in 3.4.0 that you can install new wallpapers live from kde-org with an already integrated single-click. That and in following the develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.force support

2005-06-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 04:43, Jason Wever wrote: > One feature that would be more useful (in my honest on Tuesdays > opinion) for us arch folks is the ability to mask use flags on a > per-package basis. +1 for this, from the Gentoo/FreeBSD team :P We also have similar problems because sometimes t

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jonathan Smith (smithj)

2005-06-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 14 June 2005 02:59, Mike Doty wrote: > Introducing our newest victim^H^H^H^H^H^Hdev This time at least someone who is interested in Gentoo/FreeBSD (and helped out with a couple of desktop-misc bugs about OpenPAM helping us and AMD64.. well us and us.. I feel confused...). Welcome aboa