Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Kumba
Greg KH wrote: I understand that other arches need to stay at 2.4 for various reasons. Hopefully those issues will be fixed so that this situation doesn't stay that way for much longer. You're not the only one hoping they're fixed soon :) I am supprised that Sparc64 is stuck with 2.4, as th

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 11:56:30PM -0400, Kumba wrote: > John Mylchreest wrote: > > > >No objections here. I've been waiting fort his move for a little while > >now. The only real problems will be with those 2.4 (devfs) users who > >refuse to move, maybe this is good enough incentive. > > Just to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-08 Thread Jory A. Pratt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have sat here and read you all rant on and on about these issues, but you still are not taking into account that when a bug is marked worksforme or needmoreinfo that we are unable to replicate the error. We are not saying that the bug does not ex

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Kumba
John Mylchreest wrote: No objections here. I've been waiting fort his move for a little while now. The only real problems will be with those 2.4 (devfs) users who refuse to move, maybe this is good enough incentive. Just to make sure on a few things, we're talking x86 users here being the har

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-08 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: >>>This brings up a point that really irks me. In the bug, I believe the dev >>>implies that the reported bug has merit /yet he closes the bug before >>>actually doing something about it/. And I don't mean to pick on Jeffrey; >>>t

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 10:00:31AM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > # vc devices > > -KERNEL=="vcs", NAME="vcc/0", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="tty" > > -KERNEL=="vcs[0-9]*", NAME="vcc/%n", SYMLINK+="%k", GROUP="tty" > > -KERNEL=="vcsa",NAME="vcc/a0", SYMLINK+="%k", GRO

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Sat, Jul 09, 2005 at 01:35:58AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 15:25 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 07:49:34PM +0200, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > > > I.o.w. is it still necessary to have RC_DEVICE_TARBALL="yes" as a > > > default or can we move to a pur

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
> > This brings up a point that really irks me. In the bug, I believe the dev > > implies that the reported bug has merit /yet he closes the bug before > > actually doing something about it/. And I don't mean to pick on Jeffrey; > > this seems to be a common habit among Gentoo devs. that's because

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New Bugzilla HOWTO

2005-07-08 Thread Duncan
Henrik Brix Andersen posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:59:57 +0200: > On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 14:49 +0200, Gregorio Guidi wrote: >> Mmm... it should have been >> http://dev.gentoo.org/~greg_g/enter_bug/enter_bug-main.html sorry. > > Looks awesome. Absolutely! Th

[gentoo-dev] Re: Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-08 Thread Duncan
Nathan L. Adams posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Fri, 08 Jul 2005 07:42:23 -0400: > Duncan wrote: >> >> Well, not blocker , but ... >> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73181 >> >> > This brings up a point that really irks me. In the bug, I believe the dev > implies that th

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 08/07/2005-10:12:52(-0700): Greg KH types > --- 50-udev.rules.orig2005-07-08 10:10:24.0 -0700 > +++ 50-udev.rules 2005-07-08 10:11:16.0 -0700 > @@ -139,9 +139,9 @@ > # tty devices > KERNEL=="console", NAME="%k", GROUP="tty", MODE="0600" > KERNEL=="tty",

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 02:44 +0200, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > On Saturday 09 July 2005 01:35, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > > I think people is under a misconception about this option and ... you > > really only need to enable this for a driver that is not sysfs aware > > (nvidia comes to mind - any o

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Saturday 09 July 2005 01:35, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > I think people is under a misconception about this option and ... you > really only need to enable this for a driver that is not sysfs aware > (nvidia comes to mind - any others?) nvidia is also sysfs-aware and /dev-entries are created with

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 15:25 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 07:49:34PM +0200, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > > On Thursday 07 July 2005 00:46, Greg KH wrote: > > > Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kernel tree[1], I think it's > > > time to start to revisit some of the /dev na

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Saturday 09 July 2005 00:25, Greg KH wrote: > > I.o.w. is it still necessary to have RC_DEVICE_TARBALL="yes" as a > > default or can we move to a pure udev system and change the default to > > "no". > > I've been running my boxes successfully with "no" since the option > showed up just fine :)

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 07:49:34PM +0200, Michiel de Bruijne wrote: > On Thursday 07 July 2005 00:46, Greg KH wrote: > > Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kernel tree[1], I think it's > > time to start to revisit some of the /dev naming rules that we currently > > are living with[2]. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 10:06 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 01:22:24AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > > On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 13:52 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 03:55:45PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 15:46 -0700, Greg KH wrot

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 19:16 +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:06:45 -0700 > Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Heh, yes. While looking in there, I was wondering if anyone would > > object to splitting the udev and devfs stuff out of the main rc > > script, like other par

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng scheduled for package.mask

2005-07-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 08 July 2005 02:16 pm, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 19:31 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > > I've asked this on this mailing list before, I know :) > > I know. I just thought that maybe someone had given you a solution. thats because a solution doesnt exist for wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng scheduled for package.mask

2005-07-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
me up with a naming scheme, apart from -rX bumping, that > will allow us to add a CVS snapshot to net-wireless/orinoco, please do. Well, there's always changing orinoco-cvs from a "live" CVS ebuild to a snapshot-based CVS ebuild. That would make it orinoco-cvs-20050708. Then, when

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:06:45 -0700 Greg KH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh, yes. While looking in there, I was wondering if anyone would > object to splitting the udev and devfs stuff out of the main rc > script, like other parts have been split out? That way I could > bundle the udev portions i

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 10:18:12AM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 15:46 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > To start with, the 061 version of udev offers a big memory savings if > > you use the "default" kernel name of a device[3]. If you do that, it does > > not create a file in its

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 01:22:24AM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 13:52 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 03:55:45PM +0200, Martin Schlemmer wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 15:46 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > > > Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kern

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:39:51AM +0900, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > maillog: 06/07/2005-15:46:51(-0700): Greg KH types > > Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kernel tree[1], I think it's > > time to start to revisit some of the /dev naming rules that we currently > > are living with[2]. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] devfs is dead, let's move on

2005-07-08 Thread Michiel de Bruijne
On Thursday 07 July 2005 00:46, Greg KH wrote: > Ok, now that devfs is removed from the 2.6 kernel tree[1], I think it's > time to start to revisit some of the /dev naming rules that we currently > are living with[2]. > > To start with, the 061 version of udev offers a big memory savings if > you u

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng scheduled for package.mask

2005-07-08 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 13:24 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > There is not an orinoco-cvs ebuild that is marked stable, plus it is a > live CVS ebuild, making it pretty unusable for a release. Is there a > plan for this? The current plan is to wait for a portage version, which supports a naming sc

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng scheduled for package.mask

2005-07-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 18:32 +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > * The same functionality is provided by net-wireless/hostap-driver > and/or net-wireless/orinoco-cvs (the latter especially for USB adapters) There is not an orinoco-cvs ebuild that is marked stable, plus it is a live CVS ebuild, mak

[gentoo-dev] net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng scheduled for package.mask

2005-07-08 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi, The net-wireless/linux-wlan-ng package, a driver for Prism2/2.5/3 based IEEE 802.11b wireless LAN cards, is scheduled for package.mask due to the following reasons: * The package is currently unmaintained * There are 9 open bugs for it * The same functionality is provided by net-wireless/host

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping bootsplash & friends from portage

2005-07-08 Thread Daniel Drake
Chris Gianelloni wrote: > Well, we still have users that use bootsplash on 2.4 kernels when using > catalyst, so I would probably not want to see this removed from the tree > just yet. So long as we are still providing 2.4 kernels with bootsplash > patches, we should keep the userland tools in por

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dropping bootsplash & friends from portage

2005-07-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 00:11 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > We're considering dropping media-gfx/bootsplash from portage. bootsplash (the > kernel patch which gives you pretty background images on your framebuffer > console) has an ugly design, and hasn't been developed for a while, but was > kept up-

[gentoo-dev] SPARC hardware donation thanks

2005-07-08 Thread Gustavo Zacarias
I'd like to thank Mike Doty (kingtaco) and the Loyola University of Chicago for donating and making available online a nice Sun E250 with 2x US2 @ 400mhz, 2G ram & 2x 36G disks for Gentoo development. The netra is no longer online, so any gentoo devs that want/need a sparc shell to test their stuf

[gentoo-dev] ANNOUNCE: catalyst 1.1.10

2005-07-08 Thread Chris Gianelloni
I am pleased to announce the release of catalyst 1.1.10 for mass consumption. This is mostly a bug-fix release, but has two new features and one feature has been modified, as a result of a bug. The two new features are the inclusion of livecd/users, which allows someone to specify a list of users

Re: [gentoo-dev] No automatic RDEPEND=DEPEND for ebuild and eclass anymore

2005-07-08 Thread Sven Wegener
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 03:07:42PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote: > On Thursday 07 July 2005 02:40, Sven Wegener wrote: > > For the ebuild part the plan is to remove the automatic RDEPEND=DEPEND > > setting from portage. > What's the timeline for this? Are we talking about a change in portage-cvs > (whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New Bugzilla HOWTO

2005-07-08 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 14:49 +0200, Gregorio Guidi wrote: > Mmm... it should have been > http://dev.gentoo.org/~greg_g/enter_bug/enter_bug-main.html > sorry. Looks awesome. ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd signature.asc Descript

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New Bugzilla HOWTO

2005-07-08 Thread Gregorio Guidi
On Thursday 07 July 2005 23:05, Gregorio Guidi wrote: > Also, it would be easier for user to avoid selecting Bugzilla as product if > the form was a bit friendlier, something like this... > http://dev.gentoo.org/~greg_g/enter_bug/enter_bug-report.html Mmm... it should have been http://dev.gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] No automatic RDEPEND=DEPEND for ebuild and eclass anymore

2005-07-08 Thread Dan Armak
On Thursday 07 July 2005 02:40, Sven Wegener wrote: > For the ebuild part the plan is to remove the automatic RDEPEND=DEPEND > setting from portage. What's the timeline for this? Are we talking about a change in portage-cvs (which itself is supposed to be released when?) or in the next 2.0.x rev?

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEPEND mismatches

2005-07-08 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 14:46 +0300, Dan Armak wrote: > DEPEND.blacklist of net-wireless/wireless-tools is incorrect. > kde-base/kwifimanager compiles against iwlib.h. Correct. ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd signature.asc Descr

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEPEND mismatches

2005-07-08 Thread Dan Armak
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 03:00, Sven Wegener wrote: > I want developers to take a look at the list and see if packages they > maintain are listed. I'm aware that the list is quite large and still > contains a lot of false positives. I can whitelist packages for DEPEND > or RDEPEND either general,

[gentoo-dev] Closing bugs [was: New Bugzilla HOWTO]

2005-07-08 Thread Nathan L. Adams
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > > Well, not blocker , but ... > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73181 > This brings up a point that really irks me. In the bug, I believe the dev implies that the reported bug has merit /yet he closes the bug before actually d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-08 Thread Martin Schlemmer
On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 11:58 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Wednesday 06 July 2005 20:10, Radoslaw Stachowiak wrote: > > Why only web-based apps? What about other tools and apps exposed to the > > network? > Webapps are simpler to install to base users, they are generally just a > "ex

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New Bugzilla HOWTO

2005-07-08 Thread Duncan
Gregorio Guidi posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:05:53 +0200: > On Thursday 07 July 2005 22:15, Duncan wrote: >> Simon Stelling posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below, on >> >> Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:49:04 +0200: >> > >> > What about changing the description f

Re: [gentoo-dev] use.desc and use.local.desc cleanup

2005-07-08 Thread Dan Armak
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 01:36, Sven Wegener wrote: > Unused global flags: > usepackagedmakefiles Removed, even if the functionality comes back we won't be using a USE flag as it triggers unnecessary rebuilds with emerge --newuse. -- Dan Armak Gentoo Linux developer (KDE) Public GPG key:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 20:10, Radoslaw Stachowiak wrote: > Why only web-based apps? What about other tools and apps exposed to the > network? Webapps are simpler to install to base users, they are generally just a "extract, change perms, execute php stuff". Other stuff is quite more difficult,

Re: [gentoo-dev] splitting build deps out from depends

2005-07-08 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Thursday 07 July 2005 21:44, Kito wrote: > This is what I've been doing with the experimental Darwin stages as   > nearly every basesystem package has circular deps... Same with G/FBSD. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò Gentoo Developer - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/ (Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, Ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposed security policy for web-based apps

2005-07-08 Thread Aaron Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stuart Herbert wrote: > Thoughts, comments, other (constructive) feedback? > > Best regards, > Stu Sorry for my delayed response.. Just now getting caught up on my mail from the last week. I'm definitely in favor of something like this. Btw, I a