Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-10 Thread Alin Nastac
Mike Frysinger wrote: also, four tabs rule you are obviously wrong. three is the magic number ;) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Release files/portage snapshots auxiliary files naming scheme

2005-08-10 Thread Andrew Muraco
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Hi, Currently the files that accompany our release files (ISO images, stages) are named in the following scheme: *.asc for GPG signatures *.md5 for MD5 sums while the files that accompany our portage snapshots are named: *.gpgsig for GPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Release files/portage snapshots auxiliary files naming scheme

2005-08-10 Thread Simon Stelling
Hi, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: I suggest we unify the naming scheme to the one currently in use by our release files to avoid unnecessary confusion amongst our end-users - unless of course there is a good reason for having different naming schemes for release files and portage snapshots?

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 14:09, Bjarke Istrup Pedersen wrote: I have been thinking about this for the past few days, and haven't been able to come up with an answer to why there isn't a man USE flag for people to enable man pages getting installed. FEATURES=noman disable man page

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 09:10 am, Michael Cummings wrote: (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox to reply :) That's great and all that its in features for the installation, but what about packages with optional dependencies based on doc and man? in that case

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 15:16, Mike Frysinger wrote: in that case we're screwed because there are plans to make people use INSTALL_MASK and drop the FEATURES no{man,doc,info} The problem is that noman and noinfo doesn't just avoid installing man pages and info cru^Wstuff, they also avoid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 12:46 +, Ferris McCormick wrote: On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 19:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good catch. I was going to get to the rest of the GL headers after getting Mesa working. Another comment about Mesa.

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox | to reply :) That's great and all that its in features for the | installation, but what

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Simon Stelling
Jason Stubbs wrote: Personally, I think adding FEATURES to USE_EXPAND is terrible. Portage features are not ebuild features. How much do you like C code that has #ifdef's for the compiler being used? It's the same thing. what wrong with #ifdef __cplusplus__? ;) -- Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64

[gentoo-dev] GNAP 1.8 Release (Gentoo Network APpliance)

2005-08-10 Thread Thierry Carrez
OK guys, the beast is out... GNAP is a Gentoo-based Network Appliance building system. It allows to build LiveCDs or bootable disks with a customized network appliance configuration in seconds. This is especially useful to quickly install Gentoo on small-CPU hosts to use them as routers,

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | (not directed at dsd in particular, just the last one in my inbox | to reply :) That's great

[gentoo-dev] remove

2005-08-10 Thread Eric Clapprood

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/08/2005-17:14:59(+0200): Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò types On Wednesday 10 August 2005 15:16, Mike Frysinger wrote: in that case we're screwed because there are plans to make people use INSTALL_MASK and drop the FEATURES no{man,doc,info} The problem is that noman and noinfo doesn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 17:31, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Then please introduce TESTDEPEND, MANDEPEND and INFODEPEND instead. TESTDEPEND!? Are there numbers how many packages are affected and what dependencies are in question, which are usually not available on every box anyways? This getting

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 18:06:30 +0200 Carsten Lohrke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Wednesday 10 August 2005 17:31, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | Then please introduce TESTDEPEND, MANDEPEND and INFODEPEND instead. | | TESTDEPEND!? Are there numbers how many packages are affected and | what dependencies

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:06, Carsten Lohrke wrote: TESTDEPEND!? Are there numbers how many packages are affected and what dependencies are in question, which are usually not available on every box anyways? Just look at how much packages there are which has a test useflag to add

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:19, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Just look at how much packages there are which has a test useflag to add dependencies. There are quite a few. I counted 7 - seven - packages and toolchain-binutils.eclass. That's not even a thousandth part of the tree. Come

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 01:07 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 18:19, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Just look at how much packages there are which has a test useflag to add dependencies. There are quite a few. I counted 7 - seven - packages and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Per-Erik Westerberg
Ubuntu Breezy has also problems with the fixed font when I updated it, the fonts.alias file is missing from the /usr/share/fonts/misc directory, maybe it is the same problem that people are experiencing? / Per-Erik tis 2005-08-09 klockan 11:16 -0700 skrev Donnie Berkholz: Donnie Berkholz

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: | 2. But to get sparc assembler built correctly, the following patch | seems correct: Looks good to me. | (Alternative is to create a complete linux-dri-sparc config file; I can | do that if you like.) No need if you don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Per-Erik Westerberg wrote: | Ubuntu Breezy has also problems with the fixed font when I updated | it, the fonts.alias file is missing from the /usr/share/fonts/misc | directory, maybe it is the same problem that people are experiencing? I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: oh, you mean like portage ? Eh? Of course in $D, not global. I see no reason for noman being feature flag. Don't care about it though. Carsten pgpDy0C18phXB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:13 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: oh, you mean like portage ? Eh? Of course in $D, not global. I see no reason for noman being feature flag. Don't care about it though. i mean your suggestion of adding it to

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:45, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: You didn't count very well... And you're only picking up the ones Don't know what should be wrong with find . -iname *\.ebuild -exec grep -H IUSE {} \; | grep test that're using USE=test, not the ones that have unlisted test

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 02:25 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 19:45, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: that're using USE=test, not the ones that have unlisted test dependencies, forced optional dependencies or tests disabled to avoid the dep. I answered Diego. You put

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 21:04, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Doesn't solve the SRC_URI problem. Point taken. Doesn't help that this expansion stuff is fugly, imho. Carsten pgpf2HCETwZ68.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 03:29 pm, Carsten Lohrke wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 21:04, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Doesn't solve the SRC_URI problem. Point taken. Doesn't help that this expansion stuff is fugly, imho. it is a bit on the fugly side but afaict, it's the best we got atm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 10:53 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: | 2. But to get sparc assembler built correctly, the following patch | seems correct: Looks good to me. | Just go ahead and commit it. Done. It's not

[gentoo-dev] Hardened Gentoo 2005.1 Release

2005-08-10 Thread Robert Paskowitz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, 2005.1 has now been officially released and here's what you can expect to find related to Hardened: - - x86 stages for both the 2.4 and 2.6 kernel profiles [1] - - expiremental amd64 non-multilib stages [2] - - x86 SELinux stages for both

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove

2005-08-10 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 13:15 -0700, Duncan wrote: Wow! [snip] Next time please ask yourself - is this e-mail really necessary? ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-10 Thread Dice R. Random
On 8/10/05, Alin Nastac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: also, four tabs rule you are obviously wrong. three is the magic number ;) Who cares as long as they're tabs? :set ts=3 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | Ferris McCormick wrote: | | Done. It's not quite right, yet, but it can now be worked with. For | | sparc, we do not want a lot of ..._dri.so modules (even though that is | | the target being used) because the kernel does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Donnie Berkholz wrote: --[PinePGP]--[begin]-- Ferris McCormick wrote: | Done. It's not quite right, yet, but it can now be worked with. For | sparc, we do not want a lot of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: remove

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 04:15 pm, Duncan wrote: Eric Clapprood posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:53:25 -0400: html xmlns:o=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office xmlns:w=urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word xmlns=http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40;

Re: [gentoo-dev] Release files/portage snapshots auxiliary files naming scheme

2005-08-10 Thread Marius Mauch
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: Hi, Currently the files that accompany our release files (ISO images, stages) are named in the following scheme: *.asc for GPG signatures *.md5 for MD5 sums while the files that accompany our portage snapshots are named: *.gpgsig for GPG

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: | I wrote the note very fast, and it was not too clear. With sunffb, the | kernel code for current 2.6.x (x 6) is broken, and davem has taken dri | support out of the xorg sunffb driver (to paraphrase him, you can't do |

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:31, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:24:54 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | (not

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:10:39 -0400 Michael Cummings

[gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-10 Thread Carlos Silva
I know that portage team is closed for new features :) but this just came to my mind just 5 minutes ago and seemed good enought to try. Let's just think that portage handles 5 version of package foo and foo has http://www.foo.org; and homepage, GPL-v2 license and foo just make your pc look faster

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:04:25 +0100 Carlos Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What do you think of this? GLEP 5 -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Shell tools, Fluxbox, Cron) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpZjrHzgbbKe.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-10 Thread Carlos Silva
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 01:15 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:04:25 +0100 Carlos Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | What do you think of this? GLEP 5 *G* :) thx for the info btw, why is the status of GLEP 5 timed out? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Donnie Berkholz wrote: --[PinePGP]--[begin]-- Ferris McCormick wrote: | I wrote the note very fast, and it was not too clear. With sunffb, the | kernel code for current 2.6.x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-10 Thread Christian Parpart
On Thursday 11 August 2005 02:04, Carlos Silva wrote: [...] What do you think of this? I once asked for a better place (namely metadata.xml), but got corrected with the following reason: HOMEPAGE/LICENSE/DESCRIPTION might change over version bumps; not just the revision/version number, also

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-10 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Parpart wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 02:04, Carlos Silva wrote: [...] What do you think of this? I once asked for a better place (namely metadata.xml), but got corrected with the following reason:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 09/08/2005-11:16:52(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types Donnie Berkholz wrote: | If you find bugs that aren't purely ebuild problems, do not file them at | bugs.gentoo.org -- go to bugs.freedesktop.org, in the xorg product. | | Two USE flags you will care about are dri and glx -- both are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: It seems that the current xorg-server installs all modules in /usr/lib/xorg/modules. Any idea why? It used to be /usr/lib/modules until recently, and that's still where opengl-update symlinks stuff to, and also where vnc and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Georgi Georgiev wrote: It seems that the current xorg-server installs all modules in /usr/lib/xorg/modules. Any idea why? It used to be /usr/lib/modules until recently, and that's still where opengl-update symlinks stuff to,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/08/2005-21:45:58(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types Donnie Berkholz wrote: Georgi Georgiev wrote: It seems that the current xorg-server installs all modules in /usr/lib/xorg/modules. Any idea why? It used to be /usr/lib/modules until recently, and that's still where opengl-update

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | What about new revisions of the monolithic xorg that will install in | /usr/lib/xorg/modules followed by new revisions of all packages like | opengl-update, nvidia, ati-whatever, that will depend on the newer xorg | release?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 01:04:25AM +0100, Carlos Silva wrote: [snip] or metadata.xml. This way, users with slow connections don't download almost 1MB of info every time they sync. Yes, your example occupies 1MB of space. However, it does NOT equate to 1MB of bandwidth with each sync. If you go

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: remove

2005-08-10 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:58:09 -0400: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 04:15 pm, Duncan wrote: Eric Clapprood posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:53:25 -0400: html

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Next major version

2005-08-10 Thread Alec Joseph Warner
Kristian Benoit wrote: Hi Jason and other folks, I saw your last comment on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73350 about most the these feature to be present in the next major version. That is really great to read. On that subject, I'd like to have an idea about when we should expect

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] /etc/make.conf

2005-08-10 Thread Colin Kingsley
Alec Warner wrote: Is make.conf meant to be sourcable by bash and we can mark these bugs as invalid, or do we need to modify the tools to process it and not source the file. I would prefer to keep make.conf sourceable unless there is some very good reason not to. At present, it is essentially

[gentoo-portage-dev] PATCH: refactor emerge spinner (#102073)

2005-08-10 Thread Zac Medico
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102073 Author: Zac Medico Some refactoring could help make the emerge code more maintainable. I have written a trivial patch that encapsulates the spinner code into an object. This patch only reorganizes code and should not cause any regressions or