Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | Hm, why not just forget the transition, stick a warning telling people | to add | | ModulesPath /usr/lib/modules | ModulesPath /usr/lib/xorg/modules Needing to set ModulePath at all in a standard installation is broken. This

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/08/2005-23:01:30(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types Georgi Georgiev wrote: | Hm, why not just forget the transition, stick a warning telling people | to add | | ModulesPath /usr/lib/modules | ModulesPath /usr/lib/xorg/modules Needing to set ModulePath at all in a standard

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | maillog: 10/08/2005-23:01:30(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types |Needing to set ModulePath at all in a standard installation is broken. |This shouldn't need to be in a configuration file; none of the tools I'm |aware of generate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | Per-Erik Westerberg wrote: | | Ubuntu Breezy has also problems with the fixed font when I updated | | it, the fonts.alias file is missing from the /usr/share/fonts/misc | | directory, maybe it is the same problem that people

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | A few updates: | | I'm working on a Mesa ebuild to add; this will provide the gl.h | everyone's been complaining about missing. My dev box is really screwy | because of orphaned files, things lying around from CVS, etc, so I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Put DESCRIPTION HOMEPAGE and LICENSE in another place

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Carlos Silva wrote: I know that portage team is closed for new features :) but this just came to my mind just 5 minutes ago and seemed good enought to try. Let's just think that portage handles 5 version of package foo and foo has http://www.foo.org; and homepage, GPL-v2 license and foo just

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 00:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 11:24 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: I was referring to compiler version. Portage FEATURES are not a guaranteed part of an ebuild's shell. Let me put it

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:26:49 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: With noman and the like, how's the following for a solution? A lot of the ebuild functions contained within portage will be moving into the tree once signing

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:03:13 -0400 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:40 am, Marius Mauch wrote: If you read it again you'll notice the {pre,post} part ;) IIRC that's already in HEAD for /etc/portage/bashrc, so extending it to $PORTDIR shouldn't be an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proper commit messages

2005-08-11 Thread Drake Wyrm
Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also, four tabs rule I prefer single-character tabs. (0x09) -- I used to think romantic love was a neurosis shared by two, a supreme foolishness. I no longer thought that. There's nothing foolish in loving anyone. Thinking you'll be loved in return is

[gentoo-dev] portage-2.1_alpha20050718 out

2005-08-11 Thread Marius Mauch
Hi, For all those drooling over their keyboards after reading this topic, please also read the rest of this mail. So yes, finally a portage-2.1 pre-pre-pre-alpha version is out and in the tree (p.masked). However, it's not the 2.1 that some of you might expect as it doesn't have a new dep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: 3. With USE=-dri, for testing purposes (and in the end, perhaps for performance reasons as well), it seems better to change the make target to HOSTCONF=linux-sparc, and let user's CFLAGS define the architecture. When you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: And why is this a good thing? I'm adamantly against building the non-glx libGL here for standard use, and I will continue to oppose it. Be normal people and do the same thing as everybody else in the world who's ever used

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 11:02 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: And why is this a good thing? I'm adamantly against building the non-glx libGL here for standard use, and I will continue to oppose it. Be normal people and do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Jan Spitalnik
Dne čt 11. srpna 2005 20:58 Donnie Berkholz napsal(a): Donnie Berkholz wrote: Here's a slightly better version: And here's the enhanced, scripted version. It traces libs back to their packages to really make things easy. you can replace (starting line 37) if $(grep ' \-l[a-zA-Z]'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: Notice, however, that the mesa ebuild does not seem to install the dri drivers anyplace. I suppose they should go into /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, but the don't. It seems that the ebuild uses mesa's 'installmesa'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Spitalnik wrote: as it should be equivalent. You'd think so, but consider this case: Package A provides foo.so Package B provides foo.a Package C links against both Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 12:25 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: Notice, however, that the mesa ebuild does not seem to install the dri drivers anyplace. I suppose they should go into /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers, but the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/08/2005-11:58:31(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types Donnie Berkholz wrote: Here's a slightly better version: And here's the enhanced, scripted version. It traces libs back to their packages to really make things easy. Seems to work quite well. Thanks, Donnie echo Looking for

[gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. Comments and additions would be appreciated. It's at http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/migrating_to_modular_x_howto.txt Thanks, Donnie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Ben Skeggs
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. Comments and additions would be appreciated. Just a quick note for any brave amd64 users who might want to try this, it seems that something isn't quite

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: Why not pull these greps out of the loop? No need to do the *same* thing for every library. Or did you forget to mention $libname in there? My rationale was that over the course of a compilation, both shared and static libs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ferris McCormick wrote: I'm happy with libGL; I just reverted the ebuild to be as it started, but to define a sparc-specific set of dri drivers. All my problems came from my mistaken belief that mesa would still build cleanly using the sparc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Donnie Berkholz wrote: --[PinePGP]--[begin]-- Ferris McCormick wrote: I'm happy with libGL; I just reverted the ebuild to be as it started, but to define a sparc-specific set of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: Attached an update to incorporate this and your other grep comments. Here's a new one. It prints some useful information while it's searching, like OK or Not found!. Also fixes a little more ugly output (double/single quotes

Re: [gentoo-dev] portage-2.1_alpha20050718 out

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 12 August 2005 02:26, Marius Mauch wrote: Hi, For all those drooling over their keyboards after reading this topic, please also read the rest of this mail. So yes, finally a portage-2.1 pre-pre-pre-alpha version is out and in the tree (p.masked). However, it's not the 2.1 that some

Re: [gentoo-dev] We have doc USE flag, why not a man USE flag too

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 21:26, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 07:02 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Thursday 11 August 2005 09:04, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 10 August 2005 07:56 pm, Jason Stubbs wrote: I was referring to compiler version. Portage FEATURES are not

[gentoo-dev] imlate x86 Editon and more x86 fun

2005-08-11 Thread Olivier Crête
Hi, After Ciaran's comment on -core, I wondered how imlate would fare on x86. For those who are not familiar with it, imlate list all packages on one architecture that are outdated compared to another architecture. All other architectures use x86 as a reference.. That clearly didn't work for us.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/08/2005-16:05:02(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types Donnie Berkholz wrote: Attached an update to incorporate this and your other grep comments. Here's a new one. It prints some useful information while it's searching, like OK or Not found!. Also fixes a little more ugly output

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 12/08/2005-07:16:10(+1000): Ben Skeggs types Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. Comments and additions would be appreciated. Just a quick note for any brave amd64 users who

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Georgi Georgiev wrote: | As you can see, it's the static in the end of the line. Maybe you | should grep for -static instead. | - To avoid eventual problems with similarly named libraries (libpam and | libpam_misc for example; grepping for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X plans

2005-08-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/08/2005-21:06:34(-0700): Donnie Berkholz types Georgi Georgiev wrote: | As you can see, it's the static in the end of the line. Maybe you | should grep for -static instead. | - To avoid eventual problems with similarly named libraries (libpam and | libpam_misc for example;

Re: [gentoo-dev] X modular migration howto

2005-08-11 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: | I started a brief migrating to modular X howto, on popular demand. | Comments and additions would be appreciated. | | It's at | http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/migrating_to_modular_x_howto.txt I just updated it to

Re: [gentoo-dev] imlate x86 Editon and more x86 fun

2005-08-11 Thread Chris White
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:15:17 -0400 Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We really need to form an x86 team... -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] x86 Security Liaison I really do agree with not only this, but the need for stable marking as well. Gentoo is very bleeding edge at this

Re: [gentoo-dev] imlate x86 Editon and more x86 fun

2005-08-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 11:15:17PM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote: After Ciaran's comment on -core, I wondered how imlate would fare on x86. For those who are not familiar with it, imlate list all packages on one architecture that are outdated compared to another architecture. All other

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] PATCH: refactor emerge spinner (#102073)

2005-08-11 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zac Medico wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102073 Author: Zac Medico Some refactoring could help make the emerge code more maintainable. I have written a trivial patch that encapsulates the spinner code into an object. This

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] PATCH: portage_checksum prelink optimization (#83379)

2005-08-11 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 11 August 2005 14:19, Zac Medico wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83379 Author: Zac Medico This patch uses prelink --undo-output=prelink_tmpfile in order to avoid extra copying. Files rejected by prelink are checksummed in place. With this patch applied, I have

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Next major version

2005-08-11 Thread Christopher Korn
Hi Jason and other folks, I saw your last comment on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73350 about most the these feature to be present in the next major version. That is really great to read. On that subject, I'd like to have an idea about when we should expect that next

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Next major version

2005-08-11 Thread Alec Warner
Christopher Korn wrote: Hi Jason and other folks, I saw your last comment on http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73350 about most the these feature to be present in the next major version. That is really great to read. On that subject, I'd like to have an idea about when we should expect

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Next major version

2005-08-11 Thread Christopher Korn
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 14:19:58 -0400 Alec Warner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a wiki that attempted to cover portage-2.0 api documentation as well as anything written for 2.1 but lost much of the work in a transition from windows to linux ( I screwed up the SQl backups :) ). I thought about