Re: [gentoo-dev] mozextension.eclass last call!

2005-12-29 Thread Dan Meltzer
On 12/29/05, Jory A. Pratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Unless there are any major objections tomorrow night I will commit
> mozextension.eclass to the tree. You can find mozextension.eclass at
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/eclass . You can also find the firefox
> and firefox-bin ebuilds at http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/ebuilds that
> are waiting to go to be added to the tree which inherit mozextension.
>
Do you mind addressing http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/34397
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[gentoo-dev] mozextension.eclass last call!

2005-12-29 Thread Jory A. Pratt
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Unless there are any major objections tomorrow night I will commit
mozextension.eclass to the tree. You can find mozextension.eclass at
http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/eclass . You can also find the firefox
and firefox-bin ebuilds at http://dev.gentoo.org/~anarchy/ebuilds that
are waiting to go to be added to the tree which inherit mozextension.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] i8k with torsmo

2005-12-29 Thread Daniel

Hey Lares,

> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:50 -0600, Lares Moreau wrote:
> > I'm addding functionality to torsmo by adding support for i8k, The dell
> > laptop utils.  I am using existing source code from the i8kutils package
> > to extend this functionality.

> > Now my question is, Since I am using source code from i8kutils and
> > adding it to torsmo, which would be the most appropriate method to pass
> > this info on to torsmo?

The torsmo developers seem to have abandoned the project. Brenden has taken 
over conky which is a fork of the original torsmo.

I recommend passing it directly to him for inclusion.

> > add a patch to bugs.g.o? pass it directly to 
> > torsmo? or something else.
> >
Direct to conky is prefered. http;//conky.sf.net

> > I'm still writing it, so nothing pressing yet.
I'm hoping so. Sorry I missed your original post.

> >
> > Lares

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple Repo Support

2005-12-29 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Friday 30 December 2005 01:35, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 19:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:53:14 +0100 Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > | On Tuesday 27 December 2005 18:59, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > | > Nnnope. If you modify an eclass it forces a cache regen for packages
> > | > using said eclass (except possibly if you're using an overlay, but
> > | > that's a separate issue...).
> > |
> > | You're trying to solve something which is already solved, but this
> > | has nothing to do with our problem. The question is not listen the
> > | possible valid KDE versions or a change of the eclass, but the need
> > | to know actual used KDE version. You'd need to call e.g. kde-config
> > | to get it. And this breaks caching.
> >
> > So you RDEPEND upon the version of KDE against which you were built,
> > and use the || ( ) flattening feature that's already been proposed.
>
> Thats actually viable. For -installed- ebuilds,  we simply unpack all
> RDEPEND logic, remove all use flags ( stored, but the use logic is
> removed from the RDEPEND since its already resolved, doesn't need to be
> there. The binary is static already )
>
> Then check vs. the installed SLOT of all RDEPEND packages, and lock our
> current deptree to the package of that SLOT...

I suggested this last Tuesday.. 

> I can smell sooo much breakage from this solution. Even though it could
> work  : )

I'm not sure to interpret this as "yet another snide remark" or not so I'll 
give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're referring to sets of 
ebuilds that require several slots. Before implementing the above, the tree 
will be checked for any cases where the above idea will fail.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Gunnar Wrobel (wrobel)

2005-12-29 Thread Łukasz Damentko
On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:25:16 +
Renat Lumpau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 12:43:00AM +, Luis Medinas wrote:
> > On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 00:16 +, Tom Martin wrote:
> > > Hi list,
> > > 
> > > Gunnar Wrobel is joining to help with the webapps herd, in particular
> > > the webapp-config utility.

Welcome aboard Gunnar!
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Gunnar Wrobel (wrobel)

2005-12-29 Thread Renat Lumpau
On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 12:43:00AM +, Luis Medinas wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 00:16 +, Tom Martin wrote:
> > Hi list,
> > 
> > Gunnar Wrobel is joining to help with the webapps herd, in particular
> > the webapp-config utility.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Gunnar Wrobel (wrobel)

2005-12-29 Thread Luis Medinas
On Fri, 2005-12-30 at 00:16 +, Tom Martin wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> Gunnar Wrobel is joining to help with the webapps herd, in particular
> the webapp-config utility.
> 
> Gunnar lives in Hamburg, Germany. He studied biochemistry, and went on
> to study biotechnology to become a bioinformatician. He says that he
> "ended up skipping the 'bio'-part. I really didn't like science for a
> variety of reasons, so I switched to being a freelancer." Gunnar also
> enjoys drama and watching films.

Congrats Gunnar Welcome aboard!

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[gentoo-dev] New developer: Gunnar Wrobel (wrobel)

2005-12-29 Thread Tom Martin
Hi list,

Gunnar Wrobel is joining to help with the webapps herd, in particular
the webapp-config utility.

Gunnar lives in Hamburg, Germany. He studied biochemistry, and went on
to study biotechnology to become a bioinformatician. He says that he
"ended up skipping the 'bio'-part. I really didn't like science for a
variety of reasons, so I switched to being a freelancer." Gunnar also
enjoys drama and watching films.

Gunnar is experienced in the Ps: Perl, PHP and Python. Moving on in the
alphabet, he's handy with R. In addition he knows Java and shell. In the
past he's contributed to SiteBar (www.sitebar.org), autoprime
(www.autoprime.de) and BioConductor (www.bioconductor.org).

So, please say hi on IRC and welcome Gunnar on board.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 29 December 2005 12:29, Jakub Moc wrote:
> For your reference, I even cared to attach a patch for horde (among tens of
> other bugs filed for dev-lang/php compitibility) - but that patch never
> made it to portage, despite the bug has been marked as fixed.

that's because the way i changed it worked for me ... however, no one provided 
any feedback to the contrary, so the bug has stayed closed
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Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-29 Thread Jakub Moc

29.12.2005, 14:20:37, Mike Frysinger wrote:

> On Thursday 29 December 2005 08:06, Jakub Moc wrote:
>> Maybe you could rather have used those 5 minutes you had spent writing your
>> mail to fix horde ebuilds/eclass instead. They have been broken with
>> dev-lang/php ever since it came into portage. :P

> speaking of dicks, i knew i hadnt heard from you in a while

> i dont recall ever seeing a bug report about this issue ... oh, thats because
> no one said anything about it or filed one, funny how that works
> -mike

For your reference, I even cared to attach a patch for horde (among tens of
other bugs filed for dev-lang/php compitibility) - but that patch never made
it to portage, despite the bug has been marked as fixed.

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105395

Should I reopen the bug or will you do so yourself?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] checdeps.rb for getting deps out of elf files

2005-12-29 Thread solar
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 21:52 +0200, Petteri Räty wrote:
> Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 December 2005 17:26, Petteri Räty wrote:
> > 
> >>I just picked some package as an example of the output with
> >>openoffice-bin. My understanding here is that if you link against those
> >>libraries, it will break break binary packages because dependencies
> >>don't say to pull in required libraries. This just means that apr-util
> >>should be fixed.
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > By the way, you might want to check the locations of libraries. 
> > Openoffice-bin 
> > does not satisfy the dependency for the db library. It namely is outside 
> > the 
> > library search path (and it should be). You might want to use ld.so.conf 
> > with 
> > the rpath attribute of the binary to determine which libraries to consider.
> > 
> 
> Working on it with solar. I just put the || in there until I have
> something better. Thinking about libstdc++-v3 having all the
> alternatives is also useful. Developers should know that the one from
> openoffice is not used.

We just added -L to be used with -n in scanelf(pax-utils-0.1.6) to 
search the ld.so.cache. It works in uclibc and glibc environments and 
handles 32/64 bit dupes. We can't verify any of the *BSD's at this time 
however as we no access to one of it's caches. 

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages in the tree

2005-12-29 Thread Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
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Mark Loeser skrev:
> Bjarke Istrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
>>Does this mean that gcc-3.4 will no longer have libstdc++ as a
>>dependency? :-D
> 
> 
> That is what I hope to accomplish, yes.
> 

Okay, you got my vote for this then.
btw. I think there have been several threads about this from time to
time, would be nice to finally get it done :-)

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[gentoo-dev] Postdated time

2005-12-29 Thread Lares Moreau
A couple months ago, I was having trouble with my NTP server.  I took me
a couple hours to fix.

During that time I sent some emails, and It seems that many people are
now receiving these emails. All is quite on the NTP front :)

Sorry for the PITA this may cause,
-Lares

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 29 December 2005 08:06, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Maybe you could rather have used those 5 minutes you had spent writing your
> mail to fix horde ebuilds/eclass instead. They have been broken with
> dev-lang/php ever since it came into portage. :P

speaking of dicks, i knew i hadnt heard from you in a while

i dont recall ever seeing a bug report about this issue ... oh, thats because 
no one said anything about it or filed one, funny how that works
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Viability of other SCM/version control systems for big repo's

2005-12-29 Thread Luca Barbato

Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:


Git, seems useful, but a bit hard to track ( I really dislike having to
fibble around with long random characterstrings just to check out a
certain version. I can deal, but still)



cogito solves the issue more or less

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Re[2]: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-29 Thread Jakub Moc

29.12.2005, 12:52:09, Mike Frysinger wrote:

[rant omitted]

Maybe you could rather have used those 5 minutes you had spent writing your
mail to fix horde ebuilds/eclass instead. They have been broken with
dev-lang/php ever since it came into portage. :P

Have a nice day...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] i8k with torsmo

2005-12-29 Thread Lisa Seelye
On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 13:45 +0100, Matthijs van der Vleuten wrote:
> On 12/29/05, Lisa Seelye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:50 -0600, Lares Moreau wrote:
> > > [...]
> > Is there any particular reason you're posting in September 2006?
> 
> That mail was sent 4 september 2005, according to the 'Received:'
> headers. Is there any particular reason you're posting this three
> months later?
> 

http://dev.gentoo.org/~lisa/images/Lares_Moreau_sep042006.png

It's at the bottom of my reader, and because the date is wrong I have no
idea when it was sent.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] i8k with torsmo

2005-12-29 Thread Matthijs van der Vleuten
On 12/29/05, Lisa Seelye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:50 -0600, Lares Moreau wrote:
> > [...]
> Is there any particular reason you're posting in September 2006?

That mail was sent 4 september 2005, according to the 'Received:'
headers. Is there any particular reason you're posting this three
months later?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] i8k with torsmo

2005-12-29 Thread Lisa Seelye
On Mon, 2006-09-04 at 16:50 -0600, Lares Moreau wrote:
> I'm addding functionality to torsmo by adding support for i8k, The dell
> laptop utils.  I am using existing source code from the i8kutils package
> to extend this functionality.
> 
> Now my question is, Since I am using source code from i8kutils and
> adding it to torsmo, which would be the most appropriate method to pass
> this info on to torsmo?  add a patch to bugs.g.o? pass it directly to
> torsmo? or something else.
> 
> I'm still writing it, so nothing pressing yet.
> 
> Lares
> 
Is there any particular reason you're posting in September 2006?

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[gentoo-dev] PHP Memcached APIs, last rites for dev-libs/memcached-api-php

2005-12-29 Thread Lisa Seelye
For a while the memcached community has had several PHP APIs. The first
one is represented in dev-libs/memcached-api-php and a more recent (and
maintained) version is a PECL version (dev-php4/pecl-memcache and
dev-php5/memcache in the overlay).

The PECL version is probably the best for most users. It's far faster
and has more features.

This post is serving as final notice: I intend to remove
dev-libs/memcached-api-php from the tree on 2006-01-01 (New Year's Day).
If you can't live without this package please make your case.

Points against the package:
o It's www home page no longer has a download link
o Going through the directory of its home page (e.g.,
http://www.danga.com/memcached/dist/) there's no download link and only
appears in an "old" subdir with a notice: "There are several notable
bugs in the PHP clients in this directory. Newer versions from many
people exist all over the web.  See the mailing list.  (Sorry, I'm not a
PHP guy...)"
o The PECL version is faster, maintained, and has more features


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-29 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 29 December 2005 06:35, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 14:13 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > i dont really see this being an issue ... i dont think anyone really
> > has 'xml -xml2' or '-xml xml2' ... much more likely they have 'xml
> > xml2' or '-xml -xml2'
>
> I feel really bad that you're going off and making this change during
> the holiday season, when IT departments are going to be understaffed at
> best.  If a security-related release of affected packages had to happen,
> your un-announced change could end up breaking production boxes.

i already told you in the bug that i wasnt going to be making the major 
changes over the precious holiday season (changing all ebuilds to IUSE=xml 
from IUSE=xml2)

the only changes that are happening now are in samba/php/pykota/sitecopy ... 
the samba/pykota maintainer noted that the xml stuff is hardly used, while 
the sitecopy stuff only exists in the older ebuilds

as for your php, the changes affect only dev-lang/php which:
 - you php guys yourselves have declared dev-lang/php *incomplete* -> thus it 
is *not* meant to be used on production systems
 - theres already a friggin billion USE flags in php so anyone upgrading php 
should know enough to check `emerge -pv` output to see what kind of crazy 
stuff has changed for who knows what reasons

if an IT dept is stupid enough to use such clearly alpha packages on their 
production systems, not to mention trying to upgrade it "during the holiday 
season, when IT departments are going to be understaffed at best", then they 
deserve to get their stupid ass fired
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing description for the xml global use flag

2005-12-29 Thread Stuart Herbert
On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 14:13 +, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> i dont really see this being an issue ... i dont think anyone really
> has 'xml -xml2' or '-xml xml2' ... much more likely they have 'xml 
> xml2' or '-xml -xml2'
> -mike

And what about PHP users, who will see their SAX parsers disappear,
because they need to change USE=xml to USE=expat, and no-one's told them
about it? :)

I feel really bad that you're going off and making this change during
the holiday season, when IT departments are going to be understaffed at
best.  If a security-related release of affected packages had to happen,
your un-announced change could end up breaking production boxes.

I'm also feeling really bad that no-one seems to think it's important to
tell our users that we're making this change before the change is made.
At least one week's notice in the usual places would be better than
nothing.

Best regards,
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