[gentoo-dev] Last rites for sys-apps/lmctl

2006-04-20 Thread Benedikt Böhm
Hey all,

lmctl's upstream is dead, and its fork is now called lomoco (supporting
new mice etc)

I have masked lmctl and if noone objects it will go away in the next two
weeks or so..

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Duncan
Donnie Berkholz posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,  on
Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:08:54 -0700:

 This is a reminder to everybody that now modular X is in ~arch, you need
 to REMOVE YOUR MODULAR X UNMASK.
 
 We're getting lots of issues because people aren't doing this and are
 getting package.mask'd versions of programs because they forgot about it.
 
 In particular, xorg-server 1.0.99 has an ABI break, which breaks all
 Nvidia and ATI binary drivers.

FWIW, I played with xorg-server 1.0.99 and the new ATI drivers (Radeon
9250, dual monitor in merged framebuffer mode, on amd64, compiled with
gcc-4.1.0) for about 12 hours yesterday. There's some really nice
improvements coming (with Option AccelMethod EXA, the CPU cost of
composite transparency/shadows/fading is virtually zero, and EXA is far
more stable than in current ~arch), but as might be expected with an early
release candidate, there's still enough issues that I eventually reverted
back to ~arch, which now seems slow and CPU hungry with
composite/transparency on, dull and stuffy without! g

In particular:

* The zoom hotkeys (CTRL-ALT-PLUS/MINUS) didn't work at all -- I had to
use krandrtray which isn't the same since it shrinks the virtual desktop,
not just the viewport.

* krandrtray failed to restore a full sized desktop in some cases (this
may be due to an error in the log I saw -- from memory so isn't exact,
failed to allocate backup/restore memory, display may get corrupted)

* Overlay was doing strange thing.  In this case it was SDL overlay as
used by dosbox -- I tried rebuilding both libsdl and dosbox, but the
overlay still failed.  Maybe related to the ABI change?

* General instability, with both EXA and XAA.  Not entirely unexpected at
this point, and EXA is /vastly/ improved over  both the current ~arch
version and XAA (new and ~arch) efficiency-wise.

Is it worth posting bugs on these yet?  Gentoo or upstream?  Any tracker
bug to point me at?  (I have the binpkgs so can remerge them for
additional testing with little trouble, if necessary.)

It's impressive enough to have me eagerly awaiting the next rc.  Good work
both here and upstream!  Is the proposed schedule on the wiki at
desktop.org still valid? A couple more RCs, and release in about a month
if all goes well?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 07:05 -0700, Duncan wrote:
 * Overlay was doing strange thing.  In this case it was SDL overlay as
 used by dosbox -- I tried rebuilding both libsdl and dosbox, but the
 overlay still failed.  Maybe related to the ABI change?

SDL is being dumb with alpha visuals here.
Need XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 env var for SDL apps if a composite
manager is running. That's for SDL apps, giving that to everything would
defeat the purpose of the composite manager quite a bit, I think.

I'll have to pass commenting on anything else. Not sure about the other
points and don't want to express guesses :)

 It's impressive enough to have me eagerly awaiting the next rc. Good work
 both here and upstream!

Indeed!

 Is the proposed schedule on the wiki at desktop.org still valid?

I think ajax is getting out his whip soon, if he hasn't already :P
The schedule should be pretty accurate on xorg.fd.org wiki.

 A couple more RCs, and release in about a month
 if all goes well?

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Duncan
Mart Raudsepp posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below,  on Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:23:12 +0300:

 on xorg.fd.org wiki.

Doh...  I always call it desktop.org, it's /free/desktop.org!  One
would think with a sig such as mine I'd remember that!  Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Duncan wrote:

Is it worth posting bugs on these yet?  Gentoo or upstream?  Any tracker
bug to point me at?  (I have the binpkgs so can remerge them for
additional testing with little trouble, if necessary.)


Yes, and they are most likely upstream bugs. Two things to do before 
posting a bug:

1) Make sure you're using drivers known to be compatible with 1.0.99.
2) Check out your X log for errors.
3) For the RandR bugs, see whether running xrandr allows you to change 
resolutions, and make sure your XKB is working (setxkbmap -print).



It's impressive enough to have me eagerly awaiting the next rc.  Good work
both here and upstream!  Is the proposed schedule on the wiki at
desktop.org still valid? A couple more RCs, and release in about a month
if all goes well?


Sounds pretty reasonable.

Thanks,
Donnie
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Duncan
Donnie Berkholz posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below,  on
Thu, 20 Apr 2006 09:43:43 -0700:

 Duncan wrote:
 Is it worth posting bugs on these yet?  Gentoo or upstream?  Any tracker
 bug to point me at?  (I have the binpkgs so can remerge them for
 additional testing with little trouble, if necessary.)
 
 Yes, and they are most likely upstream bugs. Two things to do before 
 posting a bug:
 1) Make sure you're using drivers known to be compatible with 1.0.99.
 2) Check out your X log for errors.
 3) For the RandR bugs, see whether running xrandr allows you to change 
 resolutions, and make sure your XKB is working (setxkbmap -print).

Thanks.  1.  Done (I noted the posted warning and heeded it).  2.  Done 
(I'd attach it upstream, as I don't claim to understand it all, myself).
3. XKB, check.  Have to try xrandr.

My setup is probably uncommon enough now, what with 8 gig memory,
SMP amd64, and dual 1600x1200 monitors in merged framebuffer, that the bug
info could be quite useful, so I should get filin'!  =8^)

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[gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Hi all,

I've been talking to some X.Org folks about sharing an OSCON [1] booth 
with us. OSCON is in Portland, OR, July 24-28, and the exhibit hall is 
open Wednesday and Thursday (26-27). This would help alleviate any 
short-staffing either group has, and likely attract more attention to 
the booth by having more Xgl and other bling, as well as people who can 
actually explain it.


Mike (vapier) mentioned that at LWE, the O'Reilly guys offered us a 
booth. I presume this means free.


Anyone who has interest in staffing a booth at OSCON or in attending it, 
please contact me. I will try to organize this. Exhibit hall attendance 
is free, but the sessions get pretty expensive. I'm not sure whether we 
would receive any session passes for being exhibitors.


Who actually goes to OSCON? The attendees are roughly 50% devs, 25% 
sysadmins, and 25% suits/other. So it's a fun audience rather than being 
dominated by management.


I would appreciate some help in understanding exactly what's required to 
get a booth together as well, since I've never done this.


Thanks,
Donnie

1. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2006/
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[gentoo-dev] app-cdr/dvdrtools needs a newer version stable

2006-04-20 Thread Grégoire Baron

Hello,
I have decided to use app-cdr/dvdrtools rather than 
app-cdr/cdrecord-prodvd to burn my DVDs because app-cdr/dvdrtools comes 
with a GPL2 license. However, the last stable version in portage is 
0.1.6 and this version can't use ATA devices without SCSI emulation 
contrary to the 0.2.1 version. This is an emptiness facing 
app-cdr/cdrecord-prodvd. And it seems that dvdrtools-0.2.1 can be marked 
stable (there has been no bugs for a month) but nothing seems to move.
That's right, I wasn't test dvdrtools-0.2.1 but I would like to know if 
something could change?


Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Chris White
On Thursday 20 April 2006 11:40 am, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 Hi all,

 Mike (vapier) mentioned that at LWE, the O'Reilly guys offered us a
 booth. I presume this means free.

Yah, I've been trying to get information on that, I say call the booth 
organizing people at O'Reilly and ask them. Someone should know.

 Anyone who has interest in staffing a booth at OSCON or in attending it,
 please contact me. I will try to organize this. Exhibit hall attendance
 is free, but the sessions get pretty expensive. I'm not sure whether we
 would receive any session passes for being exhibitors.

Me, I plan to be there the day before the convention straight to the day 
after.  However, I need to somehow get ahold of a loaned monitor because I 
don't think the combined weight of what I plan to bring with me on the plane 
+ a monitor will work.  That said, how many systems I bring is dependant upon 
how many monitors can be loaned to the booth for me to use.  My plans were:

1) This alpha system I'm getting with GNOME on it
2) My pegasos box running a PHP5/MySQL5/Apache2 server
3) This cheap 600mhz laptop running Gentoo once I get it (maybe shove xfce on 
there)

So if any other dev/OSUOSL is able to spare a monitor, feel free to let me 
know ahead of time.

 Who actually goes to OSCON? The attendees are roughly 50% devs, 25%
 sysadmins, and 25% suits/other. So it's a fun audience rather than being
 dominated by management.

 I would appreciate some help in understanding exactly what's required to
 get a booth together as well, since I've never done this.

1) CD's
2) CD's
3) Did I mention CD's?
4) Where's everyone staying, can we share rooms and what not
5) Literature holders
6) Literature
7) Business card holders
8) Business Cards
9) Power surge
10) an 8 port router/switch with some kind of backup
11) 9 and 10 require contacting O'Reilly and finding out what the net 
connection rules are, we may need a wireless router if they only provide that 
(hopefully they won't)
12) Tables if they don't give us any (preferably deep ones so we have enough 
space to hide any luggage) and covers for it
13) The last LWE's I went to we had this stand up thingy that we were able to 
put up and display our elite info fliers
14) Some kind of giveaway would be nice, T-Shirts or whatever

That's all I can think of atm.

 Thanks,
 Donnie

 1. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2006/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Lance Albertson
Donnie Berkholz wrote:

 I would appreciate some help in understanding exactly what's required to
 get a booth together as well, since I've never done this.

I was planning on attending OSCON this year. I'm not quite sure what my
time schedule will be like since I'm going for work, but I'm sure I can
squeeze in some booth time. Add me on the list of folks to keep in
contact for this.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] app-cdr/dvdrtools needs a newer version stable

2006-04-20 Thread Luis Medinas
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 20:39 +0200, Grégoire Baron wrote:
 Hello,
 I have decided to use app-cdr/dvdrtools rather than 
 app-cdr/cdrecord-prodvd to burn my DVDs because app-cdr/dvdrtools comes 
 with a GPL2 license. However, the last stable version in portage is 
 0.1.6 and this version can't use ATA devices without SCSI emulation 
 contrary to the 0.2.1 version. This is an emptiness facing 
 app-cdr/cdrecord-prodvd. And it seems that dvdrtools-0.2.1 can be marked 
 stable (there has been no bugs for a month) but nothing seems to move.
 That's right, I wasn't test dvdrtools-0.2.1 but I would like to know if 
 something could change?
 
I Think this asnwer your question:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123499

You can add your self to the bug and help x86 arch team to test this
package.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X: unmasking tonight, RFC

2006-04-20 Thread Bertrand Jacquin
On 4/19/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
  Is it planned to release some xserver ebuilds ?

 Could you rephrase the question? I don't understand it.

I can't any ebuild for xserver
(http://www.jabber.no/ejabberd-1.0.0.tar.bz2) (X over vesa fb). Is it
planned to make an ebuild available ?

Beber

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Re: [gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 11:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 I would appreciate some help in understanding exactly what's required to 
 get a booth together as well, since I've never done this.

By the way, I've added OSCON to the Gentoo Events page[1] and listed you
as the contact.

1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/events/index.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 11:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
 I've been talking to some X.Org folks about sharing an OSCON [1] booth 
 with us. OSCON is in Portland, OR, July 24-28, and the exhibit hall is 
 open Wednesday and Thursday (26-27). This would help alleviate any 
 short-staffing either group has, and likely attract more attention to 
 the booth by having more Xgl and other bling, as well as people who can 
 actually explain it.
 
 Mike (vapier) mentioned that at LWE, the O'Reilly guys offered us a 
 booth. I presume this means free.

That was what I gathered.  You would need to speak with Daniel Ostrow,
however, to get the exact details.

 Anyone who has interest in staffing a booth at OSCON or in attending it, 
 please contact me. I will try to organize this. Exhibit hall attendance 
 is free, but the sessions get pretty expensive. I'm not sure whether we 
 would receive any session passes for being exhibitors.
 
 Who actually goes to OSCON? The attendees are roughly 50% devs, 25% 
 sysadmins, and 25% suits/other. So it's a fun audience rather than being 
 dominated by management.
 
 I would appreciate some help in understanding exactly what's required to 
 get a booth together as well, since I've never done this.
 
 Thanks,
 Donnie
 
 1. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2006/

Also, try to stay in touch with me throughout this setup, as I am
working on documentation for the Gentoo Events project that will outline
what is necessary for a general Gentoo booth.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] app-cdr/dvdrtools needs a newer version stable

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
there's already a bug open in bugzilla about this ... no point in posting to 
the mailing list as well
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Re: [gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Donnie Berkholz

Chris Gianelloni wrote:

On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 11:40 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
Mike (vapier) mentioned that at LWE, the O'Reilly guys offered us a 
booth. I presume this means free.


That was what I gathered.  You would need to speak with Daniel Ostrow,
however, to get the exact details.


So, Daniel?


Also, try to stay in touch with me throughout this setup, as I am
working on documentation for the Gentoo Events project that will outline
what is necessary for a general Gentoo booth.


Planning on it. Chris White's already given some nice details on this.

Thanks,
Donnie
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Modular X: unmasking tonight, RFC

2006-04-20 Thread Stephen P. Becker

Bertrand Jacquin wrote:

On 4/19/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bertrand Jacquin wrote:

Is it planned to release some xserver ebuilds ?

Could you rephrase the question? I don't understand it.


I can't any ebuild for xserver
(http://www.jabber.no/ejabberd-1.0.0.tar.bz2) (X over vesa fb). Is it
planned to make an ebuild available ?

Beber



What does a jabber server have to do with X on vesafb?  Are you not 
satisfied with the vesa driver which is already part of modular Xorg, 
provided by the x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa ebuild?  Could you possibly 
rephrase your question so that it actually makes sense?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] OSCON booth?

2006-04-20 Thread Stuart Herbert
On 4/20/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 By the way, I've added OSCON to the Gentoo Events page[1] and listed you
 as the contact.

 1. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/events/index.xml

If you need event planning and health  safety information for any
UK-based events (whether ours or whether someone else's), give me a
shout.

Might also be worth talking to Christel about the Events project if
she hasn't approached you already; I believe she's interested in such
things.

Best regards,
Stu

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[gentoo-dev] [Fwd: [gentoo-core] Council meeting log]

2006-04-20 Thread Grant Goodyear
Whoops
---BeginMessage---
I've attached a log of today's meeting.

The agenda included Gentoo's participation in Google's Summer of Code
and an update on portage gpg signing.  In the former case, Gentoo has
applied to participate, and assuming we get one of the handful of
remaining slots then gerrynjr will be Gentoo's organization
admininstrator (with userrel's help) for the project.  In the latter
case, council developement of a reasonable key policy has stalled, and
they are soliciting GLEPs to help solve the problem.

Best,
g2boojum
19:00 @g2boojum Thank you all for being here.  Today's agenda includes (1) 
Google's Summer of Code, (2) an update on portage gpg signing, and (3) the 
usual developer floor.  We'll start w/ the Summer of Code.  gerrynjrserver?
19:00 -!- spb [EMAIL PROTECTED]/developer/spb] has joined #gentoo-council
19:00 -!- g2boojum changed the topic of #gentoo-council to: meeting at 1900UTC 
(proxies swift-fox2mike vapier-josejx az-uberlord||halcy0n 
agriffis-g2boojum) | Topic: Google SOC
19:00  gerrynjrserver well, I'd like to propose that gentoo sign up to join 
google's summer of code
19:01  gerrynjrserver if done, it would fall under the fairly new userrel 
subproject
19:01  gerrynjrserver seems like it will be an excellent pr opportunity and 
would possibly allow us to get some fresh, energetic developers in
19:02  gerrynjrserver I would definitely be willing to take on a lead 
position for this project
19:02 -!- agriffis [EMAIL PROTECTED]/developer/agriffis] has joined 
#gentoo-council
19:02 -!- mode/#gentoo-council [+o agriffis] by ChanServ
19:02 @agriffis hey g2boojum, I made it back in time (I think)
19:02 @Koon g2boojum: impostor !
19:02 @agriffis heh
19:02  * agriffis just walked in
19:02  * g2boojum continues to chair the meeting, but no longer votes.
19:03  gerrynjrserver this would entail overviewing proposed projects, 
maintianing a page of ideas developers have proposed, as well as keeping a list 
of possible mentors
19:03 @agriffis if you'd like, I can just duck back out :-)
19:03  gerrynjrserver would also ensure student summer of coders get thier 
review mid way
19:03  gerrynjrserver process shoould go this way
19:03  gerrynjrserver -students should be familiar with gentoo
19:03 @Koon gerrynjrserver: is there a point in catacting Google before we 
get a final list of projects ?
19:03 @Koon contacting
19:04  gerrynjrserver yes
19:04  gerrynjrserver contact has actually already been made
19:04 @g2boojum gerrynjrserver: You're willing to be Gentoo's organization 
administrator, then? (http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html#2)
19:04  gerrynjrserver g2boojum: indeed
19:04 @g2boojum agriffis: No, please do stay!
19:04  gerrynjrserver contact has been mde by the userrel project, as it was 
thought that if we wait, it would be too late
19:04  gerrynjrserver and considering gentoo is shooting down most 
applications now, it was probably a wise decision
19:05  nattfodd s/gentoo/google/
19:05  gerrynjrserver (only 4 seats now remain, and we still do not yet know 
if we have been accepted)
19:05  gerrynjrserver but, we have not yet received a denial notice as most 
other new signups have received
19:05  gerrynjrserver nattfodd: thanks 8-)
19:05 @Koon gerrynjrserver: OK. When should the final list of projects be 
sent ? May 1st ?
19:06  gerrynjrserver yes
19:06  gerrynjrserver the following week students will be allowed to submit 
thier applications as well as ideas
19:06  nattfodd we also need a firm list of mentors by then
19:06  gerrynjrserver nattfodd: yes
19:07 @g2boojum Okay, any other questions from council members?
19:08 @Koon gerrynjrserver: Like I said, I approve that project, but a look 
on the list of proposed projects would be nice, even if I trust you to remove 
the non-worthy ones
19:08  gerrynjrserver Koon: of course
19:08  gerrynjrserver i've jsut been notified that gentoo is still on the 
maybe list
19:08  gerrynjrserver with two seats available
19:09  gerrynjrserver so.. still nto shot down
19:09  gerrynjrserver *not
19:09  gerrynjrserver (thanks christel)
19:09 @g2boojum Otherwise I'm going to suggest a vote on giving this an 
official go-ahead.
19:09 @Koon gerrynjrserver: They decide  based on the org and not the project 
if I understand correctly
19:09  gerrynjrserver Koon: yes
19:09 @Koon voting yes for the go-ahead
19:09  gerrynjrserver i'd also request that a mailinglist be setup for this 
purpsoe
19:10  gerrynjrserver if we are accepted 8-)
19:10 @solar that wont be a problem. just file an -infra bug
19:10  gerrynjrserver will do
19:11 @g2boojum Is anybody actually opposed?
19:11 @agriffis sounds okay to me
19:11 -!- Irssi: #gentoo-council: Total of 13 nicks [7 ops, 0 halfops, 0 
voices, 6 normal]
19:11 @JoseJX I think it's a good idea to try to be involved.
19:11 @Koon and also a good trhing that someone stepped up to organize 
everything
19:12 @g2boojum fox2mike, seemant?
19:12 @Koon good ideas are common, good ideas with people to support them is 

[gentoo-dev] More virtuals? :P

2006-04-20 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Okay... two more proposals, on a more serious note now:

virtual/realpath: the realpath utility (app-admin/realpath) is used as 
replacement for readlink -f on systems not using coreutils (mainly FreeBSD, 
Darwin, DragonFly... OpenBSD has readlink -f it seems), but it's already 
provided by the freebsd-bin package for instance, so I prefer using that 
instead of requiring merging of realpath to users. It doesn't really make 
things simpler as it won't have coreutils as provider, so the packages 
dep-ing on it should anyway do || ( virtual/realpath sys-apps/coreutils ), 
but that's not much of a problem I think. Involved on this kind of deps there 
are eselect, perl, and probably in future gentoolkit and portage itself.

virtual/bsdmake: to get a bsd-ish make command (pmake); right now sys-freebsd 
packages have a dep || ( sys-devel/pmake sys-freebsd/freebsd-ubin 
sys-openbsd/openbsd-ubin ), but there are more cases where sys-devel/pmake is 
depped upon, but we need a generic BSDish make. No we can't use pmake on 
FreeBSD.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] More virtuals? :P

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 April 2006 18:00, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 virtual/realpath: the realpath utility (app-admin/realpath) is used as
 replacement for readlink -f on systems not using coreutils (mainly
 FreeBSD, Darwin, DragonFly... OpenBSD has readlink -f it seems)

put it in your system target
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Re: [gentoo-dev] app-cdr/dvdrtools needs a newer version stable

2006-04-20 Thread Joshua Jackson
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I've not been able to move my dvd burner from my server over to my
development box yet so I have not been able to look at it yet. (the
joys of moving hardware between machines :-P when both need it. Well
hopefully not much longer as I'll be replacing the server after this
new jobs paycheck. Anyways as stated in the below bug there is a issue
for some with this and I haven't had the oppertunity to see if I can
replicate it and get a proper backtrace to metalgod. I'll try to get
to that as soon as I possibly can, hopefully this weekend as the
request has been with us for a while.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] More virtuals? :P

2006-04-20 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 21 April 2006 01:37, Mike Frysinger wrote:
 put it in your system target
It is already for Gentoo/FreeBSD (note that without freebsd-bin you probably 
can't even login), but it's to specify the dependency.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] More virtuals? :P

2006-04-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 April 2006 22:40, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
 On Friday 21 April 2006 01:37, Mike Frysinger wrote:
  put it in your system target

 It is already for Gentoo/FreeBSD (note that without freebsd-bin you
 probably can't even login), but it's to specify the dependency.

what dependency

anything that DEPEND on coreutils is probably a flaky DEPEND
-mike

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[gentoo-portage-dev] efficient source for changes in the portage tree

2006-04-20 Thread Björn Ruberg
Hello,

I'm the developer of ViewPortageX, a nice superkaramba theme that basically 
parses packages.gentoo.org to display the changes in the displayed 
package-tree. So it helps you to supervise the changes in portage. 
This cuts down my syncs for example from once in two days to once in two weeks 
(normally).
Link: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=32012
ViewPortageX does some stuff more now, but that is its basic task.

Well, I want to improve it now, let it supervise all changes in the tree and 
even let it evaluate your packages.keywords.
So it would be able print out something that comes pretty close to an emerge 
-p world.
Well, I would be able to fetch all the needed information from 
packages.gentoo.org, but I think there must be more efficient ways, as this 
would cost much traffic and it is a little CPU-consuming.
So, perhaps you have an idea from were I can better fetch the updates in 
portage?

Oh and I would like to make more use of the portage-API. Is there a 
documentation of it somewhere?

Thanks,

Björn Ruberg

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Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] efficient source for changes in the portage tree

2006-04-20 Thread Brian
On Thu, 2006-20-04 at 21:30 +0200, Björn Ruberg wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm the developer of ViewPortageX, a nice superkaramba theme that basically 
 parses packages.gentoo.org to display the changes in the displayed 
 package-tree. So it helps you to supervise the changes in portage. 
 This cuts down my syncs for example from once in two days to once in two 
 weeks 
 (normally).
 Link: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=32012
 ViewPortageX does some stuff more now, but that is its basic task.
 
 Well, I want to improve it now, let it supervise all changes in the tree and 
 even let it evaluate your packages.keywords.
 So it would be able print out something that comes pretty close to an emerge 
 -p world.
 Well, I would be able to fetch all the needed information from 
 packages.gentoo.org, but I think there must be more efficient ways, as this 
 would cost much traffic and it is a little CPU-consuming.
 So, perhaps you have an idea from were I can better fetch the updates in 
 portage?
 
 Oh and I would like to make more use of the portage-API. Is there a 
 documentation of it somewhere?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Björn Ruberg
 

Perhaps you may find portholes code easier to find out how to obtain
info from portage.  The portagelib.py file is where all portage
interaction takes place.  Since the devs know about what it uses already
it is probably the safest code taps from portage to use.  You should be
able to get all the info you need from those examples.

Also you may want to keep track of pkgcore_lib.py.  It is the next
generation portage code that will be coming our way.  I have only just
started integrating it for porthole (my first commit of it last night).
Many things will change by the time the code is ready for general use,
but will give you an idea of how to plan ahead. The tree structure is
quite a bit different than current portage. I know I will need to re-do
a bunch of porthole's code to be optimized for the new structure. Also
it should be faster.  So far, just building all the available packages
from the local tree as well as all installed packages is about 1 sec.
faster on my machine, probably better again when it's ironed out. If
there is something lacking in it's API, Brian Harring wants to know.

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