Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Harald van Dijk
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:48:37AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:31, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 18:03 +0200, Stefan Schweizer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread John Myers
On Monday 05 June 2006 23:13, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:48:37AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 06 June 2006 01:31, Harald van Dijk wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 12:07:42AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 05 June 2006 21:23, Chris Gianelloni wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:23:58 -0400, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but work only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it would definitely be blocked by the games team. Probably half of the packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Doug Goldstein
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 04:10 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but work only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it would definitely be blocked by the games team. Probably half of the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Doug Goldstein
Mike Frysinger wrote: -fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc? fortran 4 eva -mike Mike, Are you flashing fortran gang signs at us? -- Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 04:45, Andrew Muraco wrote: Sorry for the offtopic of this, but what would a user set as the useflags to have GTK-2 used by default, and GTK-1 for apps that only support it? (but not build GTK-2-capable apps with GTK-1) Just the gtk use flag. Carsten

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 06:07, Mike Frysinger wrote: mikmod is the only one i'd keep ... people generally want mikmod whether or not they know it ;) I'd say 99,9% don't want mikmod. Arguments please, not vague assertions. :) Carsten pgpMnmHuAbjLA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 04:11, Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote: Some games fail in pkg_setup if sdl-mixer isn't built with mikmod but I'm not sure if we've added the built_with_use check to all of the games that need it yet. Time to fix this. And removing the flag would help, as bugs would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 11:17, Carsten Lohrke wrote: I'd say 99,9% don't want mikmod. Arguments please, not vague assertions. :) SDL based games requires mikmod quite often. I suppose Mike knows what he's saying. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 08:34, John Myers wrote: I use alsa-driver with 2.6 kernels. I forget exactly why (this was almost two years ago), but I actually switched _away_ from the in-kernel-tree drivers to alsa-driver for some particular reason. There are a few issues with in-kernel driver when

[gentoo-dev] maybe im wrong here but nsswitch and udev

2006-06-06 Thread Jürgen Schinker
actually my x86 maschine makes at boot when it starts udev an ldap request and waits 6 ... 8 ...16 sec so at this time ldap is not running so what wants udev at this early stage ? my nsswitch.conf hosts files dns ldap and all users,groups,DNS,DHCP are stored in ldap --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 11:25, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: SDL based games requires mikmod quite often. I suppose Mike knows what he's saying. It's a difference to know that, compared to share ones thoughts, which Mike missed to do. Carsten pgp1iJ8Y6QlGG.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups - discussion status

2006-06-06 Thread Stefan Schweizer
Hi, so the thread is getting a bit long, I will just summarize the status -apm -foomaticdb -imlib -motif -xmms Those are more or less without objections -fortran - I am dropping this request, seems fortran is meant to be default -oss - apparently people are fighting this one. Flameeyes also

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups - discussion status

2006-06-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 06 June 2006 12:13, Stefan Schweizer wrote: If you want to help with this effort, we need to create a tracker bug and check [1] 71 packages :) Add to fix and mark stable, _stable_, them before 2006.1 release. Oh and of course you'll have to take the pieces if something breaks :P

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-06 Thread Peter Volkov (pva)
On Втр, 2006-06-06 at 00:17 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: That's why we use a SCM for managing the ebuilds: the removed ebuilds are still found via cvs commands and on sources.gentoo.org But how can I search for removed ebuild in cvs? Is there any quick way for such things? Peter.

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-06 Thread Simon Stelling
Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: But how can I search for removed ebuild in cvs? Is there any quick way for such things? Use site:sources.gentoo.org package as query, e.g. http://www.google.ch/search?q=site%3Asources.gentoo.org+sonarbtnG=Suchemeta= -- Kind Regards, Simon Stelling Gentoo/AMD64

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect-compiler updates and unmasking

2006-06-06 Thread Ned Ludd
Why are you hijacking tools not written by you, declaring them as 2.0 and breaking the expected behaviors of them? Please don't do that ever again. On Fri, 2006-06-02 at 21:24 -0700, Jeremy Huddleston wrote: I finally had a few free cycles, so I fixed up the eselect-compiler ebuild to

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA subproject, TreeCleaners

2006-06-06 Thread Alec Warner
Peter Volkov (pva) wrote: On Втр, 2006-06-06 at 00:17 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: That's why we use a SCM for managing the ebuilds: the removed ebuilds are still found via cvs commands and on sources.gentoo.org But how can I search for removed ebuild in cvs? Is there any quick

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [snip] Lets keep this friendly. Obviously genstef was mistaken about the oss use flag. He's not trying to break any of your packages. - -- === Mike Doty kingtaco -at-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 00:07 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but work only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it would definitely be blocked by the games team. Probably half of the packages that I maintain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 08:40 +0200, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On Mon, 05 Jun 2006 21:23:58 -0400, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are *many* applications in the tree that do not use ALSA, but work only via the OSS emulation. Removing this is a bad idea and it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups - discussion status

2006-06-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 12:13 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote: -mikmod - This came from wolf31o2 and I do not like it. mikmod is used in many games and I think it gives people less hassle to have it as default. The intention of this request is to make use-setting easier, not harder. Please do not

Re: [gentoo-dev] maybe im wrong here but nsswitch and udev

2006-06-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 10:48:51AM +0100, J?rgen Schinker wrote: actually my x86 maschine makes at boot when it starts udev an ldap request and waits 6 ... 8 ...16 sec so at this time ldap is not running so what wants udev at this early stage ? my nsswitch.conf hosts files dns

Re: [gentoo-dev] maybe im wrong here but nsswitch and udev

2006-06-06 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:05:00AM -0700, Robin H. Johnson wrote: The udev/nss_ldap thing has been brewing for a while, and we're still trying to get upstream udev to fix the issue. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99564#c44 In that comment I list the proper solution that upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] eselect-compiler updates and unmasking

2006-06-06 Thread Jeremy Huddleston
Uhm, what is this all about? If you have suggestions, make them, but don't come out of the gate in a huff talking about unsubstantiated breakage. That's about the least constructive way to get heard. The wrapper provided in gcc-config-2.0 provides the exact same interface to the user as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Montag, 5. Juni 2006 18:03 schrieb Stefan Schweizer: today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. keywords? They are outdated and no longer needed on current systems: -fortran - Do we really need this outdated language as a default in gcc? Remove this and you'll break

Re: [gentoo-dev] Default useflag cleanups: -apm -foomaticdb -fortran -imlib -motif -oss -xmms

2006-06-06 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 01:05 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: Am Montag, 5. Juni 2006 18:03 schrieb Stefan Schweizer: today I would like to propose a few default keywords for removal. keywords? They are outdated and no longer needed on current systems: -fortran - Do we really need this

[gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Update www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15

2006-06-06 Thread Paul Dlug
The following patch upgrades www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15 (current latest available version in portage is 1.2.13 which has numerous evil bugs). This is my first submission so I wasn't sure if attached patches are preferred to inline ones (or vice versa). Let me know if there's any other recommended

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Update www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15

2006-06-06 Thread Grant Goodyear
Paul Dlug wrote: The following patch upgrades www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15 (current latest available version in portage is 1.2.13 which has numerous evil bugs). This is my first submission so I wasn't sure if attached patches are preferred to inline ones (or vice versa). Let me know if there's

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] [PATCH] Update www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15

2006-06-06 Thread Paul Dlug
On 6/6/06, Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Dlug wrote: The following patch upgrades www-apache/mod_jk to 1.2.15 (current latest available version in portage is 1.2.13 which has numerous evil bugs). This is my first submission so I wasn't sure if attached patches are preferred to