Re: [gentoo-dev] seamonkey - nss vs nspr
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 22:16 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: snip build or unpack both nspr and nss and then look whats laying around there. the nss sourcetree contains the nsprpub tree. Yes, but we don't install it with the nss ebuild, as our build uses system nspr. I am sure you could check with upstream, but they will probably say its intended as nss needs nspr if I remember correctly. So the nspr subtree in nss is dead code (for gentoo) ? Then we better should remove it - just to be sure ;-) Uhm, so you want us to re-tarball it instead of just using the tarball from upstream? How about firefix, seamonkey, xulrunner (I think), thunderbird, sunbird, etc ? Should we re-tarball those as well? BTW: it seems both nspr and nss are not really standalone packages, but instead snippets from CVS which requires much manual interaction (which is done by the ebuild). IMHO it would be worth investing some time into making both nspr and nss standalone packages with clean pkg-config, etc. Although I dislike autotools for some reasons (ie. crosscompiling is very ugly) we could use it until something better is available Sure, but you are still missing the point that it comes so from upstream. You can take the effort, but it will need to be OK with upstream to really make it worth the effort, else it might become a high maintenance item. Anyhow, that is the whole issue with mozilla stuff in general - huge hunk of code that is not really modular, and have to be rebuild for a few to many projects. While I am all for getting the POS more modular (which we at least did for nspr and nss), you will need to get cooperation from upstream, as they used to give a rats ass about abi compatibility when I was more involved with it, and loads of time if you actually want to try and do it yourself (which is more than I have currently), plus even more courage, as currently it will need to be done for probably at least 6-12 projects (nss, nspr, suite, browser, mail, minimo, composer, calendar, xulrunner, macbrowser, standalone, maybe chat, etc). So if you have time, courage and the drive to do it, be my guess, but know that it will be a project of some months of work, if not years. (in fact I'm working on my build tool ...). Something Xorg-modular ;-) Many distros would benefit from that. Not sure how this relates at to us, but as they say, code speak louder than words. Regards, -- Martin Schlemmer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] I'm frilled to present to you, a new Gentoo developer
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 22:10, Sven Vermeulen wrote: snip Welcome onboard Wolf! To all others: Do remember to wear protective glasses when you're near frilled. He's got some autocompulsary habit of poking people in the eyes :-) -- Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen (Jaervosz) Operational Manager Gentoo Linux Security Team http://security.gentoo.org -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] I'm frilled to present to you, a new Gentoo developer
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 10:44:58AM +0200, Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote: To all others: Do remember to wear protective glasses when you're near frilled. He's got some autocompulsary habit of poking people in the eyes :-) Who doesn't? /me pokes jaervosz in the eye Welcome aboard, frilled :) ./Brix -- Henrik Brix Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Metadistribution | Mobile computing herd pgpBXd4MtiB5s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
Roy Marples wrote: While the location was indeed good and in easy walking distance from the tube station, the room was packed - do you know if they have larger rooms? They do, see http://www.theresourcecentre.org.uk/voluntary_charges.pdf We were in seminar room 3. This was the largest one available when we booked, so be sure to get in early. Daniel -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
On 25/07/06, Wernfried Haas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 10:04:17AM -0700, Joshua Jackson wrote: hmm, that returned nothing *hides the cash in my pocket* guess you didn't define the project, and your loss is my gain ;) Ooops - well, just don't spend it all at once. cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org (i recieved a fetchmail error so i dont know if this was recieved) Yeah, we didn't accept that funny money from the continent either :p Stuart expressed an interest about organising it with me but if he is leaving then I can do it myself. I thought the location was ideal and if (like uberlord says) they have bigger rooms I would like to book one. Personally I would like to book it as soon as possible so people have lots of time to sort everything out. Ideally i would like to sort it within the next month because i seem to have committed myself to 3 projects and a girlfriend which tends to mean i have no time, no money and no ability to think for myself anymore. Perhaps this time I will get some people actually responding to some questions this time -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo/Java staffing needs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joshua Nichols wrote: * JBoss maintainer JBoss is a pretty important app in the enterprise world of Java. It has been pretty unmaintained for some time now, and could use some love. Because of the nature of this beast, I would want someone that uses JBoss on a daily basis, preferably in an enterprise setting, to be the type of person to maintain this. I nominate SwifT! :p -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEx97drsJQqN81j74RAqi/AKCxRIVm4T7A9YeG80nP3Iv05f66bgCgpbBX qQXTaPSpfbvoKYZJgtysAAU= =oyoi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?
On 7/2/06, Daniel Ahlberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This is an automatically created email message. http://gentoo.tamperd.net/stable has just been updated with 15968 ebuilds. A question [1] has come up on -user about why some ebuilds take so long to become stable for an arch. This isn't the old when will we have KDE yesterday.3am type question. In reviewing the above database, and the OP, it looks like a fair number of ebuilds that could/should be stable are not. Of particular concern to me are packages that: a) have no open bugs. b) are marked stable on some archs, but not others. c) may have only a single version available in portage. As an example, consider net-analyzer/etherape, which is ~amd64 ppc sparc x86, and has no open bugs (other than a version bump request), and only a single version available in portage to begin with. So my question is: is there anything that interested users can do to help here? I know we can file stabilization bugs, but I agree with Robert [1] that this should not be necessary in the normal case. Besides, do you _really_ want 16,000 new bug reports that say nothing more than blah/foo works for me, please stabilize! Is the problem a lack of time, devs, arch testers, or interested users? Regards, -Richard [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/166565/focus=166565 -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] aging ebuilds with unstable keywords - how can we help?
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A question [1] has come up on -user about why some ebuilds take so long to become stable for an arch. snip So my question is: is there anything that interested users can do to help here? I know we can file stabilization bugs, but I agree with Robert [1] that this should not be necessary in the normal case. Stabilization bugs are not a bad thing. Speaking from a pure QA standpoint, they _should_ be the normal case. There should be a tracker bug for each ebuild which users can tag with works for me! and have tested thoroughly reports. On the other hand, that's a bit much red tape for most devs, so they don't do that when it's not useful. When it _is_ useful, go for it. If you've been using a package for a while and you think it's ready for primetime, use the available reporting mechanism and say so. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/166565/focus=166565 -- my other signature is witty pgpVeo84jcHD2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Portage phase hooks patch
On Jul 25, 2006, at 9:30 AM, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: If the main issue is cleaning up after an abort, perhaps it would be useful to add a pkg_abort() phase to the package manager; then that can be implemented in an eclass. But i think this could be a problem when FEATURES=keepwork or something like this is enabled. If you create (or Mike creates) a new user, beginns to install files, then maybe there is an error with make test, everything aborts, the new user is deleted. Then someone does FEATURES=-test keepwork emerge dev-foo/bar... you'd have to make shure that the new user gets recreated with the same uid and the group gets recreated with the same gid and if uid or gid are already used in the meantime, then some tricky things have to be done. Or something like this. Philipp, just a user. -- gentoo-portage-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
