[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for cleaning portage a bit (themes and other eyecandy stuff)

2006-08-20 Thread Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.-

That wastes space.  Why would you want to install a theme several times
for each user when you can just install it once and have everyone use it?

Michael Sterrett
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Jose Alberto Suarez Lopez wrote:


I have another proposal... remove all themes from portage. We only need ebuild 
og gtk-engines and similar. Themes don't need a build system or are complex to 
install. Any user can go to www.X-theme.org watch the screenshot, download the 
theme  and install it.
We must mantain ebuild of themes that need a build system or complex operations 
(again gtk-engines).

I did it some similar with ebook-ebuilds. I removed all ebook-ebuild from 
portage and create an user script to download and install them.

Regards

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:12:24 +0200
Simon Toth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

I posted this to the bugzilla, but was redirected here, so:

INTRO:
I have just a small proposal. There are many theme packages in portage,
but many good are still missing, the problem I actually noticed when
creating my own ebuild for comix cursors, is that there is really a mess
in theme packages. They are both in media-gfx and x11-themes, they are
named without any convention.

PROPOSAL:
1) create a new directory in portage root eye-candy [or similar]
2) move all theme packages in there
3) follow the naming convention: [application]-[type]-[name] (for gentoo
cursors this would be x11-cursors-gentoo, or for kdm theme tux mania it
would be kdm-theme-tuxmania)
4) keep original packages as meta packages with notice, that users
should upgrade

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for cleaning portage a bit (themes and other eyecandy stuff)

2006-08-20 Thread Jose Alberto Suarez Lopez
I have another proposal... remove all themes from portage. We only need ebuild 
og gtk-engines and similar. Themes don't need a build system or are complex to 
install. Any user can go to www.X-theme.org watch the screenshot, download the 
theme  and install it.
We must mantain ebuild of themes that need a build system or complex operations 
(again gtk-engines).

I did it some similar with ebook-ebuilds. I removed all ebook-ebuild from 
portage and create an user script to download and install them.

Regards

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:12:24 +0200
Simon Toth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I posted this to the bugzilla, but was redirected here, so:
> 
> INTRO:
> I have just a small proposal. There are many theme packages in portage,
> but many good are still missing, the problem I actually noticed when
> creating my own ebuild for comix cursors, is that there is really a mess
> in theme packages. They are both in media-gfx and x11-themes, they are
> named without any convention.
> 
> PROPOSAL:
> 1) create a new directory in portage root eye-candy [or similar]
> 2) move all theme packages in there
> 3) follow the naming convention: [application]-[type]-[name] (for gentoo
> cursors this would be x11-cursors-gentoo, or for kdm theme tux mania it
> would be kdm-theme-tuxmania)
> 4) keep original packages as meta packages with notice, that users
> should upgrade
> 
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> www.fi.muni.cz/~xtoth1/
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: If I may interject...

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 17 August 2006 05:20, Duncan wrote:
> excerpted below, on  Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:01:37 -0700:
> > I told a friend that there were some in the community who called
> > proprietary software slaveryware. His response? "Holy shit!" If that
> > term spreads, we can forget about convincing otherwise logical people
> > that free software is the Right Way. There are two problems with it:
> >
> > 1) It's incorrect. There is nothing at this point in time that causes
> > you to be enslaved by proprietary software.
>
> Tell that to the many that can't leave it, due to "just one app",
> 

Lundy's point was that nutjobs hurt the free software movement

if you want to further a movement, use your head and employ logic, dont employ 
stupid terms
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

2006-08-20 Thread Michael Weyershäuser
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Brian Harring wrote:
> he meant mpg123 (as-is), and/or mpg321 (gpl2), not mpeg123...
> 
> ~harring

Right, I did, my bad... Thanks for the correction :)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

2006-08-20 Thread Joshua Jackson
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Mike Doty wrote:
> Christian Heim wrote:
>> The media-sound/alsaplayer package is pending removal as requested
>> by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for multiple buffer overflows [1], dead upstream
>> [1] and a crash occurring when playing uLaw/AU Audio File [2].
>>
>> The package is currently masked and is pending removal on 15th
>> September.
>>
>> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143402
>> [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143742
>>
> Flameeyes is afk at the moment, but I know he usually maintains this.
aye he does and its been discussed before. I at least talked to him
about it, the problem is that alsaplayer is a self contained product
that nothing else truly fills the shoes of. Other things are simple
but they depend on a lot more..etc. Its just a funky little app that
no one has really replaced.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 20 August 2006 11:22, paul kölle wrote:
> Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > On Sunday 20 August 2006 08:01, paul kölle wrote:
> >> How do I get the name of the called script in /etc/init.d? Better ideas?
> >
> > use $SVCNAME
> >
> > see the sshd init.d script for some examples
>
> thanks mike, you got me started ;)
>
> actually there is plenty of choice here:

no, there isnt ... SVCNAME is the only one the base-layout team guarantees we 
wont change ... if we can figure out a way to break the others, we will ;)
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-20 Thread Jeffrey Forman
On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 13:29 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Simon Stelling wrote:
> > Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> >> I already suggested an bug-reporting tool, which automatically
> >> collects all the necessary data, several weeks ago. This tool is
> >> simply called by commandline and asks the users several questions.
> >> Then it files an bug with some certain syntax and uploads necessary
> >> information (emerge --info, pkg-db extracts, ...).
> > 
> > That somehow looks like the guided file-a-new-bug form we had some time
> > ago. 
> 
> It's still there, just not linked from homepage (and needs a few touches
> here and there)
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Gentoo%20Linux&format=guided
> 
> 
> @jforman: Can you bring it back, people are filing bad bugs w/ missing
> info over and over again. (It's been mentioned a couple of times in
> Bug 115796 already).
Done

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Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread paul kölle
Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sunday 20 August 2006 08:01, paul kölle wrote:
>> How do I get the name of the called script in /etc/init.d? Better ideas? 
> 
> use $SVCNAME
> 
> see the sshd init.d script for some examples
thanks mike, you got me started ;)

actually there is plenty of choice here:

gentoo ~ # cat /etc/init.d/dummy
#!/sbin/runscript


start() {
einfo "$(set)"
}

leads to:
gentoo ~ # ls -l /etc/init.d/
.
-rwxr-x---  1 root  root267 Aug 20 17:10 dummy2
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  root 18 Aug 20 17:12 dummy2.v1 -> /etc/init.d/dummy2
.

gentoo ~ # /etc/init.d/dummy2.v1 start
 * rc_name is: dummy2.v1
 * myservice is: dummy2.v1
 * myscript is: /etc/init.d/dummy2.v1
 * SVCNAME is: dummy2.v1
 * BASH_ARGV[1]: /etc/init.d/dummy2.v1
 * BASH_SOURCE[0]: /etc/init.d/dummy2.v1

I'll stick with SVCNAME for now ;)

thanks again,
 Paul

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Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread Roy Marples
On Sunday 20 August 2006 13:01, paul kölle wrote:
> I need to write an init-script for multiple instances of the same
> service with different configurations (need to start/stop them
> individually) similar to what the net.xx scripts do.

Sounds like you want to look at the openvpn or vsftpd init scripts as they 
allow multiplexing, which I think is what you are after.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread Marius Mauch

paul kölle schrieb:

Hi all,

I need to write an init-script for multiple instances of the same
service with different configurations (need to start/stop them
individually) similar to what the net.xx scripts do.

I thought I could get the instance name from $0 and use it as a key to
look up the configuration in /etc/conf.d/servicename but $0 is always
/sbin/runscript.sh. The net.xx scripts know the name as ${IFACE} in
start() without doing something obvious... How do I get the name of the
called script in /etc/init.d? Better ideas?


Take a look at the sshd init script.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 20 August 2006 08:01, paul kölle wrote:
> How do I get the name of the called script in /etc/init.d? Better ideas? 

use $SVCNAME

see the sshd init.d script for some examples
-mike


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[gentoo-dev] writing net.xx style init script

2006-08-20 Thread paul kölle
Hi all,

I need to write an init-script for multiple instances of the same
service with different configurations (need to start/stop them
individually) similar to what the net.xx scripts do.

I thought I could get the instance name from $0 and use it as a key to
look up the configuration in /etc/conf.d/servicename but $0 is always
/sbin/runscript.sh. The net.xx scripts know the name as ${IFACE} in
start() without doing something obvious... How do I get the name of the
called script in /etc/init.d? Better ideas?

thanks
 Paul
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Doty

Christian Heim wrote:
The media-sound/alsaplayer package is pending removal as requested by 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for multiple buffer overflows [1], dead upstream [1] and a crash 
occurring when playing uLaw/AU Audio File [2].


The package is currently masked and is pending removal on 15th September.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143402
[2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143742


Flameeyes is afk at the moment, but I know he usually maintains this.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] General info

2006-08-20 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 05:58:11AM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> try http://forums.gentoo.org/

More specifically the OTW forum which is open to general discussion as
the question doesn't sound like a Gentoo support question.
See http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-10.html

cheers,
Wernfried

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[gentoo-dev] Reminder about the need to revision bump virtual providers when migrating to new style virtuals

2006-08-20 Thread Petteri Räty
When migrating to new style virtuals you must revision bump everything
providing the new style virtual to get rid of the PROVIDE files in
/var/db/pkg.

./app-admin/gamin-0.1.7/PROVIDE:virtual/fam

If you do not do this, Portage considers the virtual installed without
actually looking at the new style virtual. In cases where versioning is
not needed this probably does not cause problems but for java this
caused problems like the following:

# emerge -pu world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies |
emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy ">=dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.5".
(dependency required by "dev-util/eclipse-sdk-3.2" [ebuild])

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140834

Regards,
Petteri




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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Forums Staff : jmbsvicetto

2006-08-20 Thread George Prowse

On 20/08/06, Mark Kowarsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Please welcome our latest forums staff, Jorge Vicetto aka jmbsvicetto.
>

/me hugs Jorge.  Glad to have you on board.

Mark




All we need now is to find out how to pronounce your name 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] General info

2006-08-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 20 August 2006 05:35, sHadoW MaN wrote:
> I am never has programmed on Linux but I looked on the net about hardware
> interrupts library

try http://forums.gentoo.org/
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] General info

2006-08-20 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo

sHadoW MaN wrote:

Hi

I am never has programmed on Linux but I looked on the net about 
hardware interrupts library

I wanted to make a program as Fdisk using C++ ( I have kdevelop installed)
Is there a web site who has all general I/O headers

Any idea please


This list is for specific gentoo development, not this kind of questions.


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[gentoo-dev] General info

2006-08-20 Thread sHadoW MaN

Hi

I am never has programmed on Linux but I looked on the net about hardware 
interrupts library

I wanted to make a program as Fdisk using C++ ( I have kdevelop installed)
Is there a web site who has all general I/O headers

Any idea please

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

2006-08-20 Thread Brian Harring
On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 09:14:24AM +0200, Michael Weyersh??user wrote:
> Abhay Kedia wrote:
> > Can someone suggest an appropriate alternate please?
> 
> I don't know if it's appropriate since I never used alsaplayer, but
> mpeg123 is a good player for "Just play me this file on a console
> without much hassle". Other candidates would include mplayer and mpd.

he meant mpg123 (as-is), and/or mpg321 (gpl2), not mpeg123...

~harring


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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

2006-08-20 Thread Michael Weyershäuser
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Abhay Kedia wrote:
> Can someone suggest an appropriate alternate please?

I don't know if it's appropriate since I never used alsaplayer, but
mpeg123 is a good player for "Just play me this file on a console
without much hassle". Other candidates would include mplayer and mpd.
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