Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Mike Bonar]

Caleb Tennis wrote:

Hi all,

Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general


Thanks,
Caleb

  

I was looking for an excuse to learn Ruby.  I'll help all I can.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Doug Goldstein]

Caleb Tennis wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
> on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
> maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
> request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads on
> potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
> mentor anyone either.
> 
> If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
> appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourself
> to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.
> 
> Furthermore, if you can take on the role of mentoring people, I'd be happy
> to pass on some e-mail addresses of folks who showed interest in becoming
> devs.  Mail me for that information.
> 
> Thanks,
> Caleb
> 

Caleb,

I run KDE at work and I search through bugs sometimes when I'm there. I
can try to wrangle some bugs for you guys and fix them. I can't promise
to be too active though. But I'd gladly help out.

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[gentoo-dev] Interactive Portage Development

[Alec Warner]

I only see the same 10 or 12 people commenting on gentoo-portage-dev, so
if you are even remotely interested in portage development or interested
in a sane API, or interested in seeing new features I would suggest you
do two things.

One is look on archives.gentoo.org and see what we have been talking about.

Two is subscribe to the list and comment on the proposals there.

No Discussion means no perceived progress.  So help us discuss and iron
our stuff that YOU want to see.

-Alec Warner

"I guess I should re-add myself to the Portage Team" Portage Team Member.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Aaron Kulbe]

On 8/22/06, Ioannis Aslanidis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Meh, this wasn't supposed to get to the list :/I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one today, that has this problem. :)Cheers,Aaron Kulbe
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Ioannis Aslanidis]

Meh, this wasn't supposed to get to the list :/

Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
Do you have any instructions for me Caleb? Shall I continue by picking 
up bugs and doing the usual stuff or do you have something else in mind?


Caleb Tennis wrote:

Hi all,


[...]


Thanks,
Caleb


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul

[Mike Frysinger]

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 11:17, Duncan wrote:
> FWIW, eradicator active once again

sorry, but not really

active when it comes to something core like toolchain does not describe 
eradicator's behavior

> After all, there'd have
> never been a need for eselect-compiler if gcc-config wasn't broken re dual
> bitness in the first place.

has nothing to do with being broken, each has a different design

multilib support in Gentoo in general is screwed up as a result of the slow 
grafting process it has gone through ... there has yet to be a real design 
plan for it
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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Ioannis Aslanidis]

Do you have any instructions for me Caleb? Shall I continue by picking 
up bugs and doing the usual stuff or do you have something else in mind?


Caleb Tennis wrote:

Hi all,


[...]


Thanks,
Caleb


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Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Aaron Kulbe]

I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to get off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a total data loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild.
Okay. I have to apologize gentlemen.  I will take my lumps.  I said this out of frustration.  There, it's out.  Someone had been trying to help me with this, and he's on vacation... and other's know about it but haven't done anything.  It seems like a simple procedure to put keys on a server, but it's taking forever to get it done.  That being said, I have 
NO desire to start yet another argument on the lists.I apologize.  Now I'm going to go and bury my head in the sand somewhere.

Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Aaron Kulbe]

On 8/22/06, Caleb Tennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on generalmaintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads onpotential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now tomentor anyone either.If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourselfto the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.Caleb,I'm going to add myself to the Ruby herd, if I can ever get infra- to get off their asses and put my keys back up on the servers.  I had a total data loss in the last couple weeks, and had to rebuild.
question... gem is the "official" package manager for Ruby.  Why do we put Ruby stuff, other than the bare minimums to get Ruby running, in the portage tree?  Why not just let gem handle it?Cheers,
Aaron Kulbe[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[gentoo-dev] KDE and Ruby herd call for help

[Caleb Tennis]

Hi all,

Right now both the KDE and Ruby herds (which, informally, I am the *lead*
on both) are hurting for people.  I don't have the time to work on general
maintenance and bugs at the moment, so we need some help.  I've sent out a
request for help in the GWN a few weeks ago and got a lot of good leads on
potential new devs, but unfortunately I don't have the time right now to
mentor anyone either.

If you're able to help in either one of these herds, it would certainly be
appreciated.  You don't need my permission or anything - just add yourself
to the herd and throw a mail out to the alias saying you're joining us.

Furthermore, if you can take on the role of mentoring people, I'd be happy
to pass on some e-mail addresses of folks who showed interest in becoming
devs.  Mail me for that information.

Thanks,
Caleb

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

[Dominique Michel]

BTW, alsaplayer is in the proaudio overlay now.
http://proaudio.tuxfamily.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
It is 2 versions, a -r5 with the last Debian fixes, and a broken gtk2
cvs version.

Dominique

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:26:56 + (UTC)
"Duncan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Abhay Kedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Tue, 22
Aug
> 2006 14:53:38 +0530:
> 
> > On Monday 21 August 2006 19:53, Olivier Crête wrote:
> >>
> >> You can use ogg123
> >>
> > Some of the files are wav files as well, so I can't play them using
> > ogg123 and KDE doesn't allow use to use multiple alternate players
for
> > playing its files.
> 
> FWIW, I've dealt with the problem as well (altho I have arts, its age
is
> showing and it gets broken with some versions of KDE), so I know the
> frustration.  An idea I haven't tried but which popped into my head as
I
> was reading your post... what about creating a simple shell script
that
> looks at the file it's handed and determines whether to call ogg123 or
> mpg321 or whatever, based on extension or what "file" thinks it is?
> 
> Fortunately arts and the built-in events player are working for me
ATM,
> but I may try this next time something breaks.
> 
> ...  Looking forward to KDE4 and getting rid of arts!
> 

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Developer with need for urgent IT assistance

[Duncan]

Cory Visi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Tue, 22
Aug 2006 15:02:35 +:

> I have an urgent need for IT assistance with a client of mine in Manhattan 
> (New York, NY, USA.)

[snip]
 
> Please respond with only serious inquiries.  I am prepared to refer you 
> immediately.  I will provide a phone number if the offer is appropriate.

Just so you are aware, the subject line and part of the content looks very
spammy, like one of those Nigerian "urgent assistance" things.  (Take a
look at it yourself, from a third-party perspective, and see what
/you/ think.)  It's possible certain mail filters will bit-bucket it. If
one of them is the guy who would have had your answer...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

[Bo Ørsted Andresen]

On Monday 21 August 2006 14:59, Abhay Kedia wrote:
> I use alsaplayer to play KDE sounds as it works well with dmix and I
> can keep aRts disabled. All KDE sounds are ogg files and when I play
> them with mpg321, it just exits without producing any sound. I guess
> the only thing left for me to use is mplayer?

I don't really recall setting this but it appears I'm using playsound with 
KDE. It works too.

$ equery belongs playsound
[ Searching for file(s) playsound in *... ]
media-libs/sdl-sound-1.0.1-r2 (/usr/bin/playsound)

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

[Duncan]

Abhay Kedia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Tue, 22 Aug
2006 14:53:38 +0530:

> On Monday 21 August 2006 19:53, Olivier Crête wrote:
>>
>> You can use ogg123
>>
> Some of the files are wav files as well, so I can't play them using
> ogg123 and KDE doesn't allow use to use multiple alternate players for
> playing its files.

FWIW, I've dealt with the problem as well (altho I have arts, its age is
showing and it gets broken with some versions of KDE), so I know the
frustration.  An idea I haven't tried but which popped into my head as I
was reading your post... what about creating a simple shell script that
looks at the file it's handed and determines whether to call ogg123 or
mpg321 or whatever, based on extension or what "file" thinks it is?

Fortunately arts and the built-in events player are working for me ATM,
but I may try this next time something breaks.

...  Looking forward to KDE4 and getting rid of arts!

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[gentoo-dev] Re: mulltiib cruft: /emul

[Duncan]

Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
excerpted below, on  Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:30:22 -0700:

> Herbie Hopkins wrote:
>> I'm not sure why /emul was originally chosen though it's a choice I've
>> just gone along with whilst maintaining these packages. I've always
>> viewed the emul libs as a temporary measure until we had full multilib
>> fuctionality in portage. Afaik the only person working on this was
>> eradicator who has been mia for a while now so I'm unsure weather this
>> is ever likely to arise. 
> 
> blubb was working on this but ran out of time for it or something, he 
> wrote a proto-GLEP that I've got lying around.  I'm thinking of seeing 
> what I can do because the current situation really annoys me, even 
> though I don't have a multilib box.

FWIW, eradicator active once again.
eselect-compiler: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143697

BTW @ jakob and antarus re comment #18, 21: While I understand and don't
disagree with toolchain's eselect-compiler masking, for some of us on
amd64 and already used to dealing with its quirks, eselect-compiler is
less the "broken thing" than gcc-config-1* was.  After all, there'd have
never been a need for eselect-compiler if gcc-config wasn't broken re dual
bitness in the first place.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Lance Albertson]

Simon Stelling wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>> I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't
>> respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that
>> mentality.
> 
> Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone else then ;)
> 

And that's what I do. I hope I haven't given the impression that I don't
give a rats ass about all the developers. I've tried to be responsive to
all people who are respectful to us. If I haven't, then I'm sorry and
please let me know if thats the case. I'm not some close-minded
individual that doesn't listen to people.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Simon Stelling]

Lance Albertson wrote:
> I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't
> respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that
> mentality.

Well, one out of >300. Simply do it for someone else then ;)

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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Developer with need for urgent IT assistance

[Cory Visi]

Gentoo developers and community:

I have an urgent need for IT assistance with a client of mine in Manhattan 
(New York, NY, USA.)

They have a single Gentoo Linux server, custom built, performing 
everything from file servering to Groupware solutions (Lotus Domino).  
This is a 32 person operation, with the majority of users off-site, and a 
heavy dependency on e-mail.

They have a crisis situation where they need an elevated level of support 
that I cannot provide.  They would need to speak to someone today, if 
there was interest.

Ideally, I would like to recommend a larger consulting firm with a call 
center, a team of local consultants (Manhattan-based), and a stockroom of 
server parts and ready-to-deploy servers.

Less ideally, but possibly more realistically, I would like to work with a 
team of local, professional consultants with diverse expertise (Lotus, 
Gentoo, hardware.)  These consultants would have a relationship directly 
with my client, which could possibly become long-term.

Please respond with only serious inquiries.  I am prepared to refer you 
immediately.  I will provide a phone number if the offer is appropriate.

Thank you,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:45:45 + Elfyn McBratney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 03:40:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
|  > On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling
|  > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|  > | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in
|  > | my opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere.
|  > 
|  > But if respect is unearned and undeserved, it's meaningless.
|  > What's the point of being respected if every incompetent jackass
|  > is respected?
| 
| In a similar vein, what's the point in the meaningless replies, when
| all you're going to do is be disrespectful?

Perhaps you should look up 'respect' in a dictionary sometime. It does
not mean the same thing as 'courtesy'.

| If you can't say anything constructive, why not just keep it zipped?

Now that *is* irony.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Elfyn McBratney]

On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 03:40:31PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 > On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > wrote:
 > | Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my
 > | opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere.
 > 
 > But if respect is unearned and undeserved, it's meaningless. What's the
 > point of being respected if every incompetent jackass is respected?

In a similar vein, what's the point in the meaningless replies, when all
you're going to do is be disrespectful?  If you can't say anything
constructive, why not just keep it zipped?

Just my two pence...

Regards,
Elfyn

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Lance Albertson]

Simon Stelling wrote:
> Lance Albertson wrote:
>> Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra
>> have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're
> 
> I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming
> you're not thinking *nobody* outside infra does respect you, try to
> write the status report for those who you feel respected by. It will
> even make those happy who didn't respect you and maybe even make them
> respect you again because they see that a genuine effort is made to
> solve a problem that buggers them.

I'll see about sending an email in the next few days. Basically, we're
making progress on the bugzie end.

>> not getting respected by you, then why should we respect you back? At
>> least for me personally, I don't hold any personal grudges against
>> anyone unless you stop respecting the group and/or me. Personally, I
>> think the larger problem in Gentoo itself is the attitudes of many
>> developers. Communication aside, it means nothing if we can't deal with
>> each other in a semi-professional manner. It seems like mini-flame
>> explosions on irc/email have happened more frequently in the last few
>> months. This is just going to make the group implode if nothing is done
>> about it.
> 
> Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my
> opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere.
> 

I generally try to do that, but after the 10th time the person doesn't
respect you and demands things from you, its kind of hard to keep that
mentality.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:33:17 +0200 Simon Stelling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my
| opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere.

But if respect is unearned and undeserved, it's meaningless. What's the
point of being respected if every incompetent jackass is respected?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Simon Stelling]

Lance Albertson wrote:
> Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra
> have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're

I can understand that, partly. But that won't help anyone. Assuming
you're not thinking *nobody* outside infra does respect you, try to
write the status report for those who you feel respected by. It will
even make those happy who didn't respect you and maybe even make them
respect you again because they see that a genuine effort is made to
solve a problem that buggers them.

> not getting respected by you, then why should we respect you back? At
> least for me personally, I don't hold any personal grudges against
> anyone unless you stop respecting the group and/or me. Personally, I
> think the larger problem in Gentoo itself is the attitudes of many
> developers. Communication aside, it means nothing if we can't deal with
> each other in a semi-professional manner. It seems like mini-flame
> explosions on irc/email have happened more frequently in the last few
> months. This is just going to make the group implode if nothing is done
> about it.

Respect is something that should be applied unconditionally, in my
opinion. The "you don't so I won't" attitude gets us nowhere.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Lance Albertson]

Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400 Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | I request that these teams present status reports bi-weekly (thats one
> | every two weeks).  You don't even have to write the reports, I will
> | volunteer to bug you every two weeks about what is going on in your
> | project and you can just drop a few words.  I will author the report
> | for you and post it to dev (if you wish for me to do so).
> 
> Bringing up something I proposed previously... How about having teams
> that are considered 'important' (not a fixed list; this can vary
> depending upon what's going on) or 'to be having issues' deliver status
> reports to the council for their monthly meeting?

I would tend to prefer this than a standardized bi-weekly report. A lot
of times things don't change much, or its just general "maintenance"
type stuff that happens in the background. And as stated in a later
email, we can send a report to the council before the meeting in case we
can't make it to it. Many of us lead busy lives during the day and
having a free hour for yet-another-meeting is troublesome a lot of the
times.

I understand the lack of communication on some of the aspects of infra
specifically. Frankly, the attitude of a lot devs lately towards infra
have made many of us not want to communicate what we're doing. If we're
not getting respected by you, then why should we respect you back? At
least for me personally, I don't hold any personal grudges against
anyone unless you stop respecting the group and/or me. Personally, I
think the larger problem in Gentoo itself is the attitudes of many
developers. Communication aside, it means nothing if we can't deal with
each other in a semi-professional manner. It seems like mini-flame
explosions on irc/email have happened more frequently in the last few
months. This is just going to make the group implode if nothing is done
about it.

Anyways, that's my thoughts.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

[Alec Warner]

Marius Mauch wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 18:56:11 -0400
> Alec Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> It has been noted that certain projects do not communicate their
>> activities well.
>>
>> Many projects provide documentation for things(java), provide status
>> updates on things(ppc), have bits in the gwn (x86,userrel,amd64),
>> Release releases (releng), or have active webpages (adopt-a-dev,
>> bugday)
>>
>> There are some projects that keep to themselves; AND these projects
>> concern other projects (are global, to an extent).  This AND means I
>> can leave out things like arch teams, or smaller projects that don't
>> update often.  This mail is not meant for things like that.  So below
>> we have 3 large far-reaching projects.
>>
>> Gentoo Quality Assurance Team
>> Gentoo Infrastructure Team
>> Gentoo Portage Team
>> Gentoo Foundation
>> Gentoo Council
>>
>> All 5 of these projects are active.  However all 5 have failed to
>> communicate what they are doing; leading to people asking multiple
>> times about an issue, people getting frustrated, people getting
>> outright pissed off and hostile.  Today especially has been a bad day
>> for this.
> 
> If this really concerns you then I have to ask why *you* didn't send
> status reports for the Portage Team in the past?
> 
> Marius
> 

Actually the Portage Team's lack of communication was brought to my
attention recently by Tsunam after a lengthy discussion on irc.  I was
on the team, I certainly knew what was going on ;)  Same with QA.  Same
with (mostly) infra since I hang out in -infra all day long.  But as it
has been noted in the past that not everyone can hang in every channel
and "get a feel for what is going on" I figured I would volunteer to
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Re: [gentoo-dev] java and start-stop-daemon [repost]

[paul kölle]

Roy Marples wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 August 2006 08:42, paul kölle wrote:
[ snipp ]
>> Starting /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java...
>> Detatching to start /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java...done.
>>  [ ok ]
>>
>> -> app not running
>>
>> I'm mostly interested in changing the user at startup and pid file
>> handling. If start-stop-daemon won't work I'd need to add sudo to
>> RDEPEND and grab the PID from "ps U" or similar... I'd prefer doing it
>> in a more "standard" way though.
> 
> What is /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java ? Does it change it's process name at 
> all? Maybe you need to use the --name option.
Hmm, I think it is the java "interpreter" and it doesn't seem to change
its name. "cat /proc//stat shows "java" as the process name, so
--name would be the same for all running java apps.

[...poking around..]
Ok, fixed ;) Apparently s-s-d doesn't like linebreaks (not even escaped)
between "--startas $command", and "-- $args".

> 
> I ask as for init scripts we have a bash wrapper around s-s-d that is a lot 
> more strict than s-s-d itself. For example it should only be used for 
> daemons - ie what you call is expected to be a daemon. Thus it is useless for 
> shell scripts that call daemons. See the courier-imap fiasco for details on 
> this.
I'm pretty sure I do not understand the details here ;) I just thought
about s-s-d as something you can use as a wrapper for backgrounding and
pid stuff...

thanks again,
 Paul


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Re: [gentoo-dev] java and start-stop-daemon [repost]

[Roy Marples]

On Tuesday 22 August 2006 08:42, paul kölle wrote:
> works from command prompt:
> gentoo ~ # start-stop-daemon -v --start --chuid helma --background
> --pidfile /var/run/helma-default.pid --make-pidfile --startas
> /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java -- -Djava.headless=True -Xmx64m -Xms64m
> -jar /opt/helma-1.5.1/launcher.jar -h /opt/helma-1.5.1/ -w 8080
>
> -> app is running
>
>
> gentoo ~ # /etc/init.d/helma start
>  * Starting checkconfig with instance default
>  * This is passed to java: -Djava.headless=True -Xms64m -Xmx64m -jar
> /opt/helma-1.5.1/launcher.jar  -h /opt/helma-1.5.1/ -w 8080
>  * Starting helma instance default. ...
> Starting /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java...
> Detatching to start /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java...done.
>  [ ok ]
>
> -> app not running
>
> I'm mostly interested in changing the user at startup and pid file
> handling. If start-stop-daemon won't work I'd need to add sudo to
> RDEPEND and grab the PID from "ps U" or similar... I'd prefer doing it
> in a more "standard" way though.

What is /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java ? Does it change it's process name at 
all? Maybe you need to use the --name option.

I ask as for init scripts we have a bash wrapper around s-s-d that is a lot 
more strict than s-s-d itself. For example it should only be used for 
daemons - ie what you call is expected to be a daemon. Thus it is useless for 
shell scripts that call daemons. See the courier-imap fiasco for details on 
this.

For hints on what we do, checkout /lib/rcscripts/sh/rc-daemon.sh

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

[Abhay Kedia]

On Monday 21 August 2006 22:20, Elias Probst wrote:
> Try "media-sound/picoxine". I think, that's what you're looking for.
>
Thans for the reply. I tried it but it doesn't play a few files. I don't know 
why but some sounds from k3b and kde_beep file don't play at all. I guess I 
will stick to mplayer :)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

[Abhay Kedia]

On Monday 21 August 2006 19:53, Olivier Crête wrote:
>
> You can use ogg123
>
Some of the files are wav files as well, so I can't play them using ogg123 and 
KDE doesn't allow use to use multiple alternate players for playing its 
files.

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[gentoo-dev] java and start-stop-daemon [repost]

[paul kölle]

[posted on gentoo-java without luck, I hope those rc-stuff questions are
not too off topic here...]

Hi all,

I'm trying to write a startup script for helma (http://helma.org) but
start-stop-daemon gives me trouble here (I briefly looked at the jboss
and jetty scripts but they don't use start-stop-daemon). As far as I can
tell I run the exact same command from my init-script and via
commandline, nevertheless the former fails with no error and the one
issued from the prompt succeeds. Is java+start-stop-daemon a no-go?

works from command prompt:
gentoo ~ # start-stop-daemon -v --start --chuid helma --background
--pidfile /var/run/helma-default.pid --make-pidfile --startas
/opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java -- -Djava.headless=True -Xmx64m -Xms64m
-jar /opt/helma-1.5.1/launcher.jar -h /opt/helma-1.5.1/ -w 8080

-> app is running


gentoo ~ # /etc/init.d/helma start
 * Starting checkconfig with instance default
 * This is passed to java: -Djava.headless=True -Xms64m -Xmx64m -jar
/opt/helma-1.5.1/launcher.jar  -h /opt/helma-1.5.1/ -w 8080
 * Starting helma instance default. ...
Starting /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java...
Detatching to start /opt/sun-jdk-1.5.0.08/bin/java...done.
 [ ok ]

-> app not running

I'm mostly interested in changing the user at startup and pid file
handling. If start-stop-daemon won't work I'd need to add sudo to
RDEPEND and grab the PID from "ps U" or similar... I'd prefer doing it
in a more "standard" way though.

thanks
 Paul

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