Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles, Round 2

2006-10-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 07 October 2006 23:04, Zac Medico wrote:
 Should we add multiple inheritance support now?

yes
-mike


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles, Round 2

2006-10-08 Thread Stuart Herbert

Hi Zac,

On 10/8/06, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm only proposing that we add support to portage now because it
seems like it will be useful in the future.  How and when people
make use of this support does not concern me much.

Zac


I believe that multiple parent support would be useful for the Seeds
project; it would allow the LAMP Developer Desktop (for example) to
inherit from both the generic 2006.1/x86 profile and the LAMP Server
profile.

I'm not saying we'd definitely end up going that way, but it would be
something worth testing when the time comes.

Best regards,
Stu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

2006-10-08 Thread Wernfried Haas
Seeing you go under these circumstances really worries me. Perhaps you
want to reconsider it - if not: All the best!

cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Leave of Absence

2006-10-08 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Sun, Oct 08, 2006 at 12:33:30AM -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
 I killed my dev box somehow and due to recent meandering thoughts in my 
 head I've decided not to buy replacement parts.  This in turn affects my 
 ability to do Gentoo work; so I have decided to take a leave of absence. 
  It's kind of been in my mind for while.
 
 Treecleaners, I will talk to you a bit about some thoughts I had.
 
 Devrel, this is your notice of my leave greater than 60 days.
 
 I will be reading e-mail, but prolly won't be present on IRC often.
 
 I'm hoping to finish strong in my last semester at school, the choices 
 for post-graduation are looking like a full time job or JET; if the 
 latter I will probably resign at that point since I know I won't have 
 time to contribute much here anymore.
 
Thanks for the notice, I hope to see you around from time to time. And
good luck with graduation and post-graduation.

Regards,
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[gentoo-dev] New Developer: Timothy Redaelli (drizzt)

2006-10-08 Thread Petteri Räty
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Timothy drizzt Redaelli, the
latest addition joining to help out with the Gentoo/FreeBSD effort.

He hails from Milan, Italy. He currently works as an embedded programmer
using ASM/C. It probably doesn't come as a surprise to anyone that he
was mentored by Flameeyes and is the latest addition to his minions.

Timothy is skilled in system work, setting up and securing servers. He
is a staff member of GUFI (Gruppo Utenti FreeBSD Italia) and FreeSBIE
(FreeBSD LiveCD) and he maintains some packages of FreeBSD.

So please welcome drizzt and give him the usual warm welcome.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles, Round 2

2006-10-08 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Sonntag, 8. Oktober 2006 12:05 schrieb Stuart Herbert:
 Hi Zac,

 On 10/8/06, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm only proposing that we add support to portage now because it
  seems like it will be useful in the future.  How and when people
  make use of this support does not concern me much.
 
  Zac

 I believe that multiple parent support would be useful for the Seeds
 project; it would allow the LAMP Developer Desktop (for example) to
 inherit from both the generic 2006.1/x86 profile and the LAMP Server
 profile.
Well, once we have that support the structure of profiles will radically 
change. The following is also something I'd like to be done while i'm 
in council. This is why i asked Zac to send the RFC to gentoo-dev. 
Thanks Zac :-)

I for one favour a more flattened profiles/ and a way to mark a profile
as 'not standalone', similar to a deprecated file, that isn't inherited, 
to stop users biting their own asses. The following sample is not 
complete, but should give the right impressions.

 profiles
 +-obsolete, which contains the old cascaded profiles. Let's remove
 |   the current obsolete/ contents.
 |
 +-default-linux, minimal default useflags here
 | |
 | +-linux-2.4, would be handy for x86 :-) amd64 has no supported 2.4
 |  kernel.
 |
 +-hardened, minimal default useflags here
 |
 +-default-bsd, minimal default useflags here
 | |
 | +fbsd, inherits default-bsd/
 |
 +-base
 | |
 | +amd64, inherits base/
 |
 +-releases
   |
   +-2006.1, does not inherit anything, stuff like nptl nptlonly here
 |
 +-amd64-linux, inherits default-linux/, base/amd64; standalone
 |
 +-amd64-hardened, inherits hardened, base/amd64; standalone
 |
 +-amd64-fbsd, inherits default-bsd/fbsd/, base/amd64; standalone

This is a hot shot and I'm waiting for comments.
Wolf? Agaffney?

I'm prepared to do the work here and, as this new layout would take
some time, it should be done in a seperate repository for the time 
being.

The Seeds project could do something like this:
+-Seeds
  |
  +-amd64-lamp, inherits releases/2006.1/amd64-hardened and adds lamp
specific useflags/packages.

But i lack knowledge here. Stuart?



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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jeffrey Gardner (je_fro)

2006-10-08 Thread Markus Dittrich

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On Fri, 6 Oct 2006, Petteri Räty wrote:

It's my pleasure to introduce to you Jeffrey je_fro Gardner, the
latest addition joining to help out with the scientific packages.



Welcome Jeffrey,

and happy sci-bug-fixing ;)

cheers,
Markus

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles, Round 2

2006-10-08 Thread Stuart Herbert

Hi Danny,

On 10/8/06, Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I for one favour a more flattened profiles/ and a way to mark a profile
as 'not standalone', similar to a deprecated file, that isn't inherited,
to stop users biting their own asses. The following sample is not
complete, but should give the right impressions.

The Seeds project could do something like this:
+-Seeds
  |
  +-amd64-lamp, inherits releases/2006.1/amd64-hardened and adds lamp
specific useflags/packages.

But i lack knowledge here. Stuart?


I think Seeds could work with a structure like that.

Best regards,
Stu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Alon Bar-Lev (alonbl)

2006-10-08 Thread Eldad Zack

Christian Heim wrote:
Its my pleasure to introduce to you Alon alonbl Bar-Lev, the latest addition 
joining to help out with the crypto herd.


He hails from Israel (hrm, they don't have cities down there ?). So far it 
looks like Alon is completely constrained to his computer, he doesn't have 
any other hobbies nor life.


Oh, great, I'm not alone here anymore :) Welcome!
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

2006-10-08 Thread Steve Dibb

Donnie Berkholz wrote:

Tim Yamin wrote:


Lately however, the fun and the motivation just hasn't been there
for the reasons I've outlined above; it's finally taken its toll, and
I believe the time to move onto new projects and ventures has finally
come for me.

I would like to wish all of you the very best, and would like to thank
all of you who have (and haven't) made my time here so enjoyable.



Tim,

Thanks for all of the hard work you've put into Gentoo. I know it isn't
always appreciated, so I want to make sure you know how valuable you've
been.


I couldn't have said it better myself.  Good luck with everything.

Steve
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: multiple inheritance support for profiles, Round 2

2006-10-08 Thread Andrew Gaffney

Danny van Dyk wrote:

I for one favour a more flattened profiles/ and a way to mark a profile
as 'not standalone', similar to a deprecated file, that isn't inherited, 
to stop users biting their own asses. The following sample is not 
complete, but should give the right impressions.


By 'not standalone', I assume you mean this profile does not work by itself, 
and is only meant to be inherited by other profiles. If that's not what you 
meant, we also need something that does that :)



 profiles
 +-obsolete, which contains the old cascaded profiles. Let's remove
 |   the current obsolete/ contents.


Doing this will break portage for people who are using old cascaded profiles. 
Portage would freak out if there wasn't a profile where there was one before, 
and there wouldn't be a way to do a 'deprecated' file to tell them about the new 
ones.



 +-default-linux, minimal default useflags here
 | |
 | +-linux-2.4, would be handy for x86 :-) amd64 has no supported 2.4
 |  kernel.
 |
 +-hardened, minimal default useflags here
 |
 +-default-bsd, minimal default useflags here
 | |
 | +fbsd, inherits default-bsd/
 |
 +-base
 | |
 | +amd64, inherits base/
 |
 +-releases
   |
   +-2006.1, does not inherit anything, stuff like nptl nptlonly here
 |
 +-amd64-linux, inherits default-linux/, base/amd64; standalone
 |
 +-amd64-hardened, inherits hardened, base/amd64; standalone
 |
 +-amd64-fbsd, inherits default-bsd/fbsd/, base/amd64; standalone

This is a hot shot and I'm waiting for comments.
Wolf? Agaffney?


I can't really comment on the structure, since I don't really do much with 
profiles myself (no gentoo-x86 commit access).



I'm prepared to do the work here and, as this new layout would take
some time, it should be done in a seperate repository for the time 
being.


Not necessary. It can just be a separate directory tree under profiles/ much 
like default-linux/ was created for cascaded profiles originally, and they can 
all be marked as deprecated or something.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Timothy Redaelli (drizzt)

2006-10-08 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Petteri Räty wrote:
 It's my pleasure to introduce to you Timothy drizzt Redaelli, the
 latest addition joining to help out with the Gentoo/FreeBSD effort.

I have to say, good taste in books.

Thanks,
Donnie



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Re: [gentoo-dev] CFLAGS paragraph submission for the GWN

2006-10-08 Thread Dice R. Random

On 10/8/06, Lionel Bouton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Here's a draft of a paragraph discussing CFLAGS-related problems. This
is the result of a discussion I started on gentoo-dev. Thanks to all
devs who gave feedback this should bring some food for thought to GWN
readers.


Hi Lionel,

Thanks for writing this up, great job.  Nitpicking spelling and
grammar points to follow ;)


configurability that are hallmarks of the uri
link=http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml Gentoo experience/uri.


Extra space before Gentoo here.


for most users. There's usually very little benefit, high risks and much
time spent on frustating tuning that could be enjoyed doing far more
interesting things.
/warn


frustating should be frustrating


pExample of this are :/p


Should be plural: Examples


lic-fforce-addr/c and c-fweb/c break regularly on x86 with
video libraries or graphic processing apps which use hand-optimised ASM.
c-fweb/c may be safe on amd64 but like above no guarantees/li


optimised should be optimized


For example c-ffast-math/c is added by the xmame/xmess ebuilds on
most architectures even tho you SHOULD NOT put it in your CFLAGS./li


tho should be though
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