[gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
how do people feel about transitioning the Gentoo standard system logger from running as root/root to adm/adm ? the latest version of sysklogd includes some patches so that it can run as non-root and a user requested we make this the default ... however, i certainly dont want to start adding a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages

2007-01-01 Thread Steve Long
Alec Warner wrote: The tricky part then is figuring out whether something doesn't dep upon c-compiler because it doesn't need one or because the ebuilds haven't been updated. I'm out of my depth here- I can't see where that would be a problem? Er, his point being that if you don't do the

[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder ! Same bat time (typically the 2nd Thursday at 2000 UTC), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know ! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages

2007-01-01 Thread Robert Buchholz
Steve Long wrote: Alec Warner wrote: Er, his point being that if you don't do the upgrade all at once, you have two classes of package. 1. Packages that don't require C-compiler 2. Packages that don't yet depend upon C-compiler When doing the upgrade over a period of time the two classes

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 01 January 2007 10:29, Mike Frysinger wrote: how do people feel about transitioning the Gentoo standard system logger from running as root/root to adm/adm ?  the latest version of sysklogd includes some patches so that it can run as non-root and a user requested we make this the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages for grabs

2007-01-01 Thread Seemant Kulleen
Betelgeuse, I'll take sqlite if you and I can co-maintain it. Thanks, -- Seemant Kulleen Developer, Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Doug Goldstein
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Monday 01 January 2007 10:29, Mike Frysinger wrote: how do people feel about transitioning the Gentoo standard system logger from running as root/root to adm/adm ? the latest version of sysklogd includes some patches so that it can run as non-root and a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Doty
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: how do people feel about transitioning the Gentoo standard system logger from running as root/root to adm/adm ? the latest version of sysklogd includes some patches so that it can run as non-root and a user requested we

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 09:46:55 -0800 Mike Doty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does syslog-ng and metalog have similar functionality? SYNOPSIS syslog-ng [ -dFsvVy ] [ -f config-filename ] [ -p pid-filename ] [ -C chroot-dir ] [ -u user ] [ -g group ] ... -u user, --group=user

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: On Monday 01 January 2007 10:29, Mike Frysinger wrote: how do people feel about transitioning the Gentoo standard system logger from running as root/root to adm/adm ? the latest version of sysklogd includes some patches so that it can run as non-root and

[gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Ryan Hill
Petteri Räty wrote: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò kirjoitti: It would be really nice, especially if the adm group could be used to be able to read the logs without using root login :) Why not use the wheel group? adm is the standard unix group used to access system logs. there's a few good

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Monday 01 January 2007 19:38, Petteri Räty wrote: Why not use the wheel group? wheel can su (and sudo usually); you might want to give an user access to the logs without using wheel group. -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 20:14:17 +0100 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Monday 01 January 2007 19:38, Petteri Räty wrote: | Why not use the wheel group? | | wheel can su (and sudo usually); you might want to give an user | access to the logs without using wheel group. Then

[gentoo-dev] Dieing inside subshells will soon work

2007-01-01 Thread Petteri Räty
It already works in ~arch so will hit stable too sometime in the future. Regards, Petteri R=C3=A4ty signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dieing inside subshells will soon work

2007-01-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:12:09 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | It already works in ~arch so will hit stable too sometime in the | future. Better to say, you might soon be able to get away with it, but don't rely upon it actually working... -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages for grabs

2007-01-01 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 10:51:56 -0500 Seemant Kulleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Betelgeuse, I'll take sqlite if you and I can co-maintain it. Thanks, -- Seemant Kulleen Developer, Gentoo Linux -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list I can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dieing inside subshells will soon work

2007-01-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:12:09 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | It already works in ~arch so will hit stable too sometime in the | future. Better to say, you might soon be able to get away with it, but don't rely upon it actually working... Well one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dieing inside subshells will soon work

2007-01-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:28:10 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: | On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:12:09 +0200 Petteri Räty | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | It already works in ~arch so will hit stable too sometime in the | | future. | | Better to say, you might

[gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Stephen Bennett
Following a discussion in #gentoo-portage earlier this evening, it was suggested that I send out an RFC email for this. So, does anyone object to requiring that any variable listed in USE_EXPAND be treated as incremental, at least as far as profile inheritance is concerned? --

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dieing inside subshells will soon work

2007-01-01 Thread Petteri Räty
Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:28:10 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh kirjoitti: | On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 22:12:09 +0200 Petteri Räty | [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | It already works in ~arch so will hit stable too sometime in the | | future.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Stephen Bennett wrote: Following a discussion in #gentoo-portage earlier this evening, it was suggested that I send out an RFC email for this. So, does anyone object to requiring that any variable listed in USE_EXPAND be treated as incremental, at least as far as profile inheritance is

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:24:49 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That means that the base profiles must have a minimal setting that is added to in lower profiles, rather than a reasonable default that's entirely reset in lower profiles (perhaps to a smaller setting), correct? It

[gentoo-dev] New developer: Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog)

2007-01-01 Thread Petteri Räty
It's my pleasure to introduce to you Miroslav fordforg Šulc. He is joining the über cool java people. Expect him to spend endless night battling with the horrors of bundled jars and sucky build systems. He hails from Beroun, Czech Republic. He owns his own IT company. On the personal side he is

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages

2007-01-01 Thread Steve Long
Robert Buchholz wrote: A problem package would be one that does not need a C compiler. It can't be distinguished from the one which was not yet changed to depend on C. The problem here is that one can not say when the whole tree is updated to the new standard, because for the packages which

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog)

2007-01-01 Thread Jakub Moc
Petteri Räty napsal(a): He hails from Beroun, Czech Republic. He owns his own IT company. On the personal side he is married and has a little daughter. He likes soccer, taking trips on bikes and hiking. Yay, the Czech beer conspiracy is growing! Welcome! *plop* -- Best regards, Jakub Moc

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog)

2007-01-01 Thread Markus Ullmann
Jakub Moc schrieb: Yay, the Czech beer conspiracy is growing! Welcome! You'd share your beer? :D Jokey -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog)

2007-01-01 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:40:55 +0200 Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce to you Miroslav fordforg Šulc. He is joining the über cool java people. Expect him to spend endless night battling with the horrors of bundled jars and sucky build systems. Welcome aboard,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:24:49 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That means that the base profiles must have a minimal setting that is added to in lower profiles, rather than a reasonable default that's entirely reset in lower profiles (perhaps to a smaller

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 15:27:43 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I'd rather not make USE_EXPAND incremental if we can't subtract flags. You mean via -flag? Or via -*? Both are valid in incrementals. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Stephen Bennett wrote: The proposal means that all variables listed in USE_EXPAND get handled exactly as USE does where profile inheritance is concerned. Subprofiles can add to and remove from the value in the parent profile just as they can for USE. Did I misread what you said earlier?

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog)

2007-01-01 Thread Miroslav Šulc (fordfrog)
Thanks for the greetings from Czechoslovakia :-) Jakub Moc wrote: Petteri Räty napsal(a): He hails from Beroun, Czech Republic. He owns his own IT company. On the personal side he is married and has a little daughter. He likes soccer, taking trips on bikes and hiking. Yay, the Czech

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 17:24:03 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: The proposal means that all variables listed in USE_EXPAND get handled exactly as USE does where profile inheritance is concerned. Subprofiles can add to and remove from the value in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: making USE_EXPANDed variables incremental

2007-01-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Stephen Bennett wrote: On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 17:24:03 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: The proposal means that all variables listed in USE_EXPAND get handled exactly as USE does where profile inheritance is concerned. Subprofiles can add to and remove

[gentoo-dev] openmosix maintainer needed

2007-01-01 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, openmosix has been hardmasked for a long time: # Tim Yamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07 Aug 2006) # Security mask # Bugs #135167, #137623, #137626, #138617, #139321, # #139475, #139641, #140444, #141503, #142616, #142617 sys-kernel/openmosix-sources sys-cluster/openmosixview

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dieing inside subshells will soon work

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 01 January 2007 15:12, Petteri Räty wrote: It already works in ~arch so will hit stable too sometime in the future. until it completely works (versus just mostly works), why mention this ? it'd be better to continue on with the 'dont use subshells' especially since it hasnt really

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Monday 01 January 2007 12:46, Mike Doty wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: how do people feel about transitioning the Gentoo standard system logger from running as root/root to adm/adm ? the latest version of sysklogd includes some patches so that it can run as non-root and a user requested

Re: [gentoo-dev] openmosix maintainer needed

2007-01-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, openmosix has been hardmasked for a long time: # Tim Yamin [EMAIL PROTECTED] (07 Aug 2006) # Security mask # Bugs #135167, #137623, #137626, #138617, #139321, # #139475, #139641, #140444, #141503, #142616, #142617 sys-kernel/openmosix-sources

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages

2007-01-01 Thread Robert Buchholz
Steve Long wrote: Robert Buchholz wrote: The problem here is that one can not say when the whole tree is updated to the new standard, because for the packages which were not touched, it could mean that they needed no change or that they were not looked at yet. I can understand that as a

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: Robert Buchholz (rbu)

2007-01-01 Thread Robert Buchholz
Petteri Räty wrote: It's my pleasure to introduce to you Robert rbu Buchholz. Before it's too late, I wanted to send thanks to Jokey who was and is a great mentor. And also to all who sent greetings. Hope to see some of you at the next German conspiracy meeting. Robert --

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Masked by corruption

2007-01-01 Thread James Cloos
Thanks for the replies; my apologies for the delay in repying back Based on the replies, I was able to track the problem down. The cdb patch is incompatable with the latest version of portage. Removing that from /etc/portage/modules allows portage to work. That said, there is still the bug

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Masked by corruption

2007-01-01 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Cloos wrote: Thanks for the replies; my apologies for the delay in repying back Based on the replies, I was able to track the problem down. The cdb patch is incompatable with the latest version of portage. Removing that from