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Mike Frysinger wrote:
no, i'm not directing this at any one person as i dont believe singling out
any one person addresses anything in our case
a video sent to out by a good mate
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4216011961522818645
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:22:08AM +, Alex Tarkovsky wrote:
Bryan Østergaard kloeri at gentoo.org writes:
Bryan, instead of always addressing the symptoms by asking people to kindly be
quiet or move things elsewhere, why don't you do something more substantive
about what ails Gentoo
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:31:56PM +, Hubert Mercier wrote:
What is more, even if Gentoo is always growing, why are people leaving ?
Personal reasons ? No, in fact I read carefully each of the retire
interesting video. I think many could learn from this I know I did.
On 3/5/07, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
no, i'm not directing this at any one person as i dont believe singling out
any one person
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 02:12 -0700, Daniel Robbins wrote:
I'm also very interested to find out about this. I would be
disappointed to find that the Foundation has chosen to not fulfill or
neglect one of the key purposes for which it was created.
Copyright assignment was pretty much dropped by
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 12:18 +0100, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
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Mike Frysinger wrote:
no, i'm not directing this at any one person as i dont believe singling out
any one person addresses anything in our case
a video sent to out by a
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
Maybe if Ciaran recognized his past faults, begged pardon and promised
to be kinder from now and on, everything would be easier for everyone,
everything would calm down.
I share your dream ;)
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:15:36 -0500 William L.
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 06:59:02 -0800 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
as evidenced by
every previous time you've gotten involved with anything I've done,
and given how badly you tried to screw up GLEP 42 and how much of
my time you wasted doing so, I really
I wish you guys would just let the forum moderators moderate this mailing
list. You'd soon see why the gentoo forums are the envy of the support
world.
I agree. I also agree with temporary ban's to reduce flame wars.
people need to cool down sometimes.
---concerned gentoo user.
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Petteri Räty wrote:
I wonder if this thread would have been like this if deadline was called
timetable in the original mail. I asked for access to PMS and got it so
I don't see any problem it being in any way too secret.
Yay! A positive post!
--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now, I
have no idea. While the current PMS project is not what we asked for
and *is* outside the scope of Gentoo
That's interesting to note.
, due to our wishing to still *have*
a specification of
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:25:54 + Steve Long
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What kind of response do you think anyone else would have received
had they started repeatedly attacking a project when they didn't
even know what that project was, repeatedly tried to interfere
with the management of a
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:54 +
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What, and make everyone move the development discussion elsewhere?
Have you noticed how little development discussion goes on on the
forums? Have you ever considered why?
It's full of trolls. Have you considered why
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 16:00:01 +
Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thing I don't understand is why spb took it on when he knew he was
going to be out of commission with his Uni.
I'm not out of commission. PMS is simply not at the top of my list of
priorities at the moment.
--
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:33:31 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:54 +
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What, and make everyone move the development discussion elsewhere?
Have you noticed how little development discussion goes on on the
forums?
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:20:48 -0500
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now,
I have no idea.
A QA subproject which has not yet released a public draft.
What the Council is interested
in is a specification of expected
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I have no plans on releasing *any* kind of nightly *anything* so
long as Release Engineering still gets minimal testing from only a
*tiny* subset of our developer pool when we are basically *begging* for
it.
I've been
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 16:56 +, Stephen Bennett wrote:
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:20:48 -0500
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The EAPI=0 document was supposed to be a QA project. What it is now,
I have no idea.
A QA subproject which has not yet released a public draft.
Now,
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:49:10 -0500
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What we want to discuss is a possible timeline for completion, and
what resources you may need to get it done within the agreed timeline.
Notice that I used timeline, instead of deadline. It was done on
purpose
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:25:31PM +, Steve Long wrote:
Ioannis Aslanidis wrote:
Maybe if Ciaran recognized his past faults, begged pardon and promised
to be kinder from now and on, everything would be easier for everyone,
everything would calm down.
I share your dream ;)
On 3/5/07, Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:49:10 -0500
Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What we want to discuss is a possible timeline for completion, and
what resources you may need to get it done within the agreed timeline.
Notice that I used
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:05:43 +0100
Lionel Bouton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I followed this discussion for what seems ages now. I'm not a dev,
just a user a little sad with the mood on gentoo-dev so feel free to
ignore me...
Lionel,
don't feel sad. the rest of us are fine, jolly even (though i
Bryan Østergaard napsal(a):
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:46:47AM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
And you come here to tell us that people shouldn't get confused by these
'very few' retirements, that the sun in still shining nicely and we are
recruiting people as always? And that you will continue
On Mon, 2007-03-05 at 17:49 +0100, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote:
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
I have no plans on releasing *any* kind of nightly *anything* so
long as Release Engineering still gets minimal testing from only a
*tiny* subset of
I've been away for a few days, so somehow I missed the great
drobbins/ciaranm debate, where many, many current and former devs
behaved badly. (At the same time, I thought that genone and antarus
behaved quite well. I'm sure others did, too, but those two stood
out to me.)
Drobbins, many things
Josh Saddler wrote: [Mon Mar 05 2007, 03:51:08PM CST]
Technical point here -- the devmanual has never been in GuideXML; it was
converted from RST into docbook.
Oh! My apologies.
Thanks,
g2boojum
--
Grant Goodyear
Gentoo Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum
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Thank you.
I am replying off-list because I do not want to create even more flaming.
I'm not a dev. Just a user in terms of gentoo. I'm subscribed to the
list since I need all the info I can get. And gentoo has definitely come
a long way in the last few weeks. First that 8-Day-Flame about
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:07:58 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
Who defines 'impolite'? It's a cultural thing, and given that we have
developers and users from all over the world, we span a lot of vastly
different cultures.
2. Anyone who repeatedly and
On 3/5/07, Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said, I'm not necessarily opposed to mandating civility, a la
Ubuntu. I do see a minor problem with that approach, though: right now
it is not clear that Gentoo has a group of devs who are sufficiently
trusted and willing to actually
Denis Dupeyron wrote:
On 3/5/07, Grant Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That said, I'm not necessarily opposed to mandating civility, a la
Ubuntu. I do see a minor problem with that approach, though: right now
it is not clear that Gentoo has a group of devs who are sufficiently
trusted and
these are where warnings and apologies come in. plus I think only
repeated behavior should result in permanent removal.
On 3/5/07, Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:07:58 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
Who defines
Dear List,
1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
Who defines 'impolite'? It's a cultural thing, and given that we have
developers and users from all over the world, we span a lot of vastly
different cultures.
I am aware of this issue, but it is not needed to solve it at once or
Josh Saddler wrote:
Technical point here -- the devmanual has never been in GuideXML; it was
converted from RST into docbook.
Was it? IIRC it was a custom GuideXML-like format, but certainly not a
Docbook. A quick glance at the Docbook DTD [1] and the devmanual itself
[2] seems to confirm
Unused global useflags:
dba - Enables dbm-compatible layers
dio - Adds direct i/o support
emacs-w3 - Add support for Emacs/W3 where applicable
gb - Adds support for Gnome Basic to gnumeric
hardenedphp - include the hardened php security patch for the php group of
ebuilds
ingres - Adds support
Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
Unused global useflags:
dba - Enables dbm-compatible layers
dio - Adds direct i/o support
hardenedphp - include the hardened php security patch for the php group of
ebuilds
ingres - Adds support for Ingres database
msession - Adds support for msession daemon
Jan Kundrát wrote:
Josh Saddler wrote:
Technical point here -- the devmanual has never been in GuideXML; it was
converted from RST into docbook.
Was it? IIRC it was a custom GuideXML-like format, but certainly not a
Docbook. A quick glance at the Docbook DTD [1] and the devmanual itself
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:33:31 + Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:54 +
Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What, and make everyone move the development discussion elsewhere?
Have you noticed how little development discussion
Harald van D?k wrote:
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 03:25:31PM +, Steve Long wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
What kind of response do you think anyone else would have received had
they started repeatedly attacking a project when they didn't even know
what that project was, repeatedly tried to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear list,
Why not simply naming the formal logic rules for the official venue
where developers (and ex-developers and users) can talk out their
disagreements to be:
1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
2. Anyone who repeatedly and seemingly on purpose
On 06/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear list,
Why not simply naming the formal logic rules for the official venue
where developers (and ex-developers and users) can talk out their
disagreements to be:
1. Anyone who is impolite get's kicked off.
2.
Piotr Jaroszyński [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
emacs-w3 - Add support for Emacs/W3 where applicable
No. Removed.
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