Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
Quoting Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED]: noone ever suggested that I'd be a case for urgent council decision. That's because your revisions only change once a year. ;-) (Sorry, couldn't resist.) Best regards, Wulf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2007 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:31:48 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: printf _rc%d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR,$MONTH,$DAY Funnily enough... If we're going by PMS drafts, that's illegal whereas multiple suffixes are legal. PMS permits

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Danny van Dyk
Am Mittwoch, 25. April 2007 schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:31:48 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: printf _rc%d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR,$MONTH,$DAY Funnily enough... If we're going by PMS drafts, that's illegal whereas multiple suffixes are legal. PMS permits

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Luca Barbato
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:31:48 -0700 Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: printf _rc%d%04d%02d%02d,$RC,$YEAR,$MONTH,$DAY Funnily enough... If we're going by PMS drafts, that's illegal whereas multiple suffixes are legal. PMS permits multiple suffixes, but limits

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:57:39 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funnily enough... If we're going by PMS drafts, that's illegal whereas multiple suffixes are legal. PMS permits multiple suffixes, but limits any individual version component to eight digits to avoid problems with

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Richard Freeman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seemant Kulleen wrote: If I were to guess I'd say people are a little confused that this required action/decision this quickly and outside of a regular council meeting -- for a real emergency situation, you'd probably see a lot less of a hub-bub

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Alec Warner
As usual if you have issues with the council's decision, this is the wrong list to complain on. Try [EMAIL PROTECTED], I here they have popcorn. This is the right list to discuss versioning schemes though. -Alec -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 21:25 -0400, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 00:30 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: In my eyes it was a policy issue. Tree-wide policies have to pass the council in one form or the other. So why shouldn't Council care here? My argument is not that Council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 08:55 +0200, Jakub Moc wrote: On a general note - if you are unable to agree upon an acceptable solution, then better refrain from taking 'emergency' measures on issues where there's no emergency whatsoever. There's been a bug open for over two months and noone ever

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 09:35 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: Hereby I would like to request the counsel to discuss this mini-GLEP in the first meeting for which this request is in time. You got this in just in time for the next Council meeting. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 07:08 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: Perhaps they wanted to make sure it remained a 3-package issue, and thought that it might grow before it could be addressed? Exactly. I agree with the rest of what you've said, also. Being on the Council is a thankless job where we try

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:12:49 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand how nobody can see that the *TEMPORARY* injunction against packages using this versioning scheme was put into place *BECAUSE* nobody could agree on the solution. Mmm, no, what's weird is that you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Jakub Moc
On 4/25/07, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand how nobody can see that the *TEMPORARY* injunction against packages using this versioning scheme was put into place *BECAUSE* nobody could agree on the solution. Actually, nevermind. I digress. You're right. The Council

RE: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Chrissy Fullam
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:12:49 -0400 Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand how nobody can see that the *TEMPORARY* injunction against packages using this versioning scheme was put into place *BECAUSE* nobody could agree on the solution. On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:22 Ciaran

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:40:17 +0200 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh... It for sure did sound like 'oh noes, the end of the world is near if we don't stop this immediately!!!111!'. Sorry, but I really fail to see the need to use such procedures when the only 2 remaining packages (eh,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Brian Harring
@council; cross posting to provide the reasoning, if discussion continues on council ml, kindly cc me (unsubscribed long ago). Technical discussion (which should be the basis of why it was banned should be on dev ml imo). On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 09:11:44PM +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: Hi all,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Joshua Jackson
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:57:39 +0200 Danny van Dyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funnily enough... If we're going by PMS drafts, that's illegal whereas multiple suffixes are legal. PMS permits multiple suffixes, but limits any individual version component to eight digits

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:06:55 -0700 Joshua Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is enough. PMS is a work in progress its not going to cover everything that users and developers are going to be in some cases boneheaded enough to actually pull off (always have edge conditions). No no, you miss

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi. Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 10:06:55 -0700 Joshua Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is enough. PMS is a work in progress its not going to cover everything that users and developers are going to be in some cases boneheaded

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Doug Goldstein
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:16:38 -0400 Doug Goldstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wouldn't have to be because you have a vested interest in paludis and paludis does not support this syntax and there happens to be no reasonable way to support that? Cut the

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Joshua Jackson
Ciaran, You missed the bandwagon on trying to use the conspiracy theories phrase already. That happened a full 24 hrs ago. I'm sorry you were off-line. Next time try to come to the party on time, otherwise keep quiet. Already been handled as its offtopic, please just let this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Grant Goodyear
Fabian Groffen wrote: [Sat Apr 14 2007, 03:33:03AM CDT] For people that like reading it in html or via the web: http://dev.gentoo.org/~grobian/gleps/glep-keywords.html http://dev.gentoo.org/~grobian/gleps/glep-keywords.txt So what would a version of Gentoo for amd64 based on FreeBSD but using

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for dev-java/puretls

2007-04-25 Thread Petteri Räty
+# Petteri Räty [EMAIL PROTECTED] (25 Apr 2007) +# TLS support is included in the JDK since 1.4. If you want +# spare this package mail to the gentoo-java mailing list. +# Otherwise going to the junkyard after 30 days. +dev-java/puretls + signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Rémi Cardona
Grant Goodyear a écrit : Fabian Groffen wrote: [Sat Apr 14 2007, 03:33:03AM CDT] For people that like reading it in html or via the web: http://dev.gentoo.org/~grobian/gleps/glep-keywords.html http://dev.gentoo.org/~grobian/gleps/glep-keywords.txt So what would a version of Gentoo for amd64

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

2007-04-25 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:56:02 -0700 Brian Harring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Best I can figure, the offered reason is it needs to be blocked before it becomes widespread thus cannot be blocked any further- which isn't much of a reason since the support is long term there already, and doesn't

[gentoo-dev] That time again...

2007-04-25 Thread Michael Cummings
Worth a shot, it seemed to work last time (and I just noticed that a neglected -dev mail folder is a bad thing). G-cpan-0.15 was put out last night; 99% bug fixes, a few easter eggs, and some tweaks. Any other cool updates in the last few weeks? (it's been 20 days since the last time I started

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-25 Thread Yuri Vasilevski
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:39:47 +0200 Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grant Goodyear a écrit : Fabian Groffen wrote: [Sat Apr 14 2007, 03:33:03AM CDT] For people that like reading it in html or via the web: http://dev.gentoo.org/~grobian/gleps/glep-keywords.html

Re: [gentoo-dev] That time again...

2007-04-25 Thread Paul Varner
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 20:12 -0400, Michael Cummings wrote: G-cpan-0.15 was put out last night; 99% bug fixes, a few easter eggs, and some tweaks. Any other cool updates in the last few weeks? (it's been 20 days since the last time I started this thread - at this rate, we might make enough input