Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-05-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:44:08 -0700
"Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement)
> > bugs that are fixable, but the assignee doesn't have the motivation
> > to come up with a solution, but would look at and eventually
> I think a keyword might be more useful, as at least with my bugs, I'd
> like to keep them open myself - if the user doesn't provide a patch,
> it's still something that I'd get around to doing eventually.
> 
> I specifically want my bugs to stay open, and be easily visible as to
> why I've kept them open.

I can agree with keyword but closing them because of lacking motivation
or skills isn't justified.. Problem doesn't go away by making them
invisible.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
Hi Bryan,

On Thursday 31 May 2007 03:35, Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.

Thanks for all the work you've done for Gentoo, I know it's not always been 
fun. Good luck with your future projects and please do keep us posted 
somehow :-).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for you as
> it used to be for me.

Just as Marius already said, I usually also don't participate in the
"goodbye and thanks for all the fish"-threads - but this one is kinda
special. Bryan is one of the few non-German Gentoo Developers I met
several times and we had much fun every time - at least this was my
impression.

I was already looking forward for meeting you again at the UK Meeting in
July ... so ... yeah ... I'm really sad to see you go :( For whatever
you're doing next I'd wish you as much luck and fun as I can.

Thanks for your contributions and being an important part of Gentoo in
the past few years! 

  Tobias


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Peter Weller
On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:35:20 +0200
"Bryan Østergaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
> 
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at
> least pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo
> during that time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have
> grown these past several months and I've been entertaining the idea
> about retiring from Gentoo for probably 6 months now. The past couple
> months the desire to leave Gentoo have become much stronger and I
> think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to go our separate ways.
> 
> I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important
> ways but lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do
> any more for Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I
> feel is right we seem to end up with petty fights, flamewars or what
> I consider even worse - people simply ignore what I'm working hard
> towards.
> 
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking
> for another project where I can contribute something important and
> not just try to keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds
> with to an ever increasing degree.
> 
> I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days
> and see if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably
> won't be around much on irc but if you really need to contact me you
> can do so at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for
> you as it used to be for me.
> 
> Best regards,
> Bryan Østergaard

Sad to see you go... 'tis gonna be strange without you around... 
Best of luck with whatever you go to do next.

welp


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-05-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 02:32:22AM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote:
> I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement) bugs
> that are fixable, but the assignee doesn't have the motivation to come
> up with a solution, but would look at and eventually include a
> user-submitted patch for it. Currently those would either be left open
> forever or closed as WONTFIX which isn't compeltely accurate. Therefore
> I propose a new bugzilla resolution NEEDPATCH so we're not stuck with
> tons of open bugs that might never be closed (or get closed with a
> somewhat incorrect resolution). It might also give people who want to
> help a simpler target instead of browsing through all open bugs and
> trying to find one where a user can work on.
I think a keyword might be more useful, as at least with my bugs, I'd
like to keep them open myself - if the user doesn't provide a patch,
it's still something that I'd get around to doing eventually.

I specifically want my bugs to stay open, and be easily visible as to
why I've kept them open.

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Gentoo Linux Developer & Council Member
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-05-30 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Thursday, May 31, 2007 02:32:22 AM Marius Mauch wrote:
> I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement) bugs
> that are fixable, but the assignee doesn't have the motivation to come
> up with a solution, 

... or is lacking the necessary skills. 

> I propose a new bugzilla resolution NEEDPATCH so we're not stuck with
> tons of open bugs that might never be closed

I fully agree. There are quite a few bugs I've seen that would be benefit 
from it.

Best regards, Wulf


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Alin Năstac
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Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm
> finally retiring from Gentoo.
I'm sorry to see another key developer leaving Gentoo. :(
I hope you'll come back someday... ;)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Marius Mauch
On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:35:20 +0200
"Bryan Østergaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from Gentoo.

I usually don't participate in all the welcome/goodbye threads, but
you're one of the few people I'm really sad to see leaving. But with
the constant mobbing going on I can certainly understand the
decision.
Hope to see you back someday.

Marius

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:35:20 +0200
"Bryan Østergaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking
> for another project where I can contribute something important and
> not just try to keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds
> with to an ever increasing degree.

Sad to see one of the few remaining sane people leave. But equally, I'm
really looking forward to seeing your next project.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Luis Francisco Araujo
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Bryan Østergaard wrote:
> It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
> retiring from
> Gentoo.
> 
> I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
> pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo during that
> time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have grown these past
> several
> months and I've been entertaining the idea about retiring from Gentoo for
> probably 6 months now. The past couple months the desire to leave Gentoo
> have
> become much stronger and I think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to
> go our
> separate ways.
> 
> I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important
> ways but
> lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do any more for
> Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we
> seem to
> end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - people
> simply ignore what I'm working hard towards.
> 
> So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking for
> another project where I can contribute something important and not just
> try to
> keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds with to an ever
> increasing degree.
> 
> I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days
> and see
> if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably won't be around
> much on irc but if you really need to contact me you can do so at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for
> you as
> it used to be for me.
> 
> Best regards,
> Bryan Østergaard

Sad to see you go Bryan,

You were one of the first Gentoo developers i met, and you were really a
great help to get me started in this community; i bet many people owe
you the same 

Thanks and i wish you luck in your future projects,

P.S: Wouldn't you just like to take the Gentoo-one-month-off vacation to
relax a bit?

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Gentoo Linux

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[gentoo-dev] Bye Gentoo!

2007-05-30 Thread Bryan Østergaard

It's with a bit of sadness but also a bit of relief that I'm finally
retiring from
Gentoo.

I've been a Gentoo developer for nearly 4 years now and I like to at least
pretend that I've made some important contributions to Gentoo during that
time. I've had a lot of fun but my frustrations have grown these past several
months and I've been entertaining the idea about retiring from Gentoo for
probably 6 months now. The past couple months the desire to leave Gentoo have
become much stronger and I think it's finally time for me and Gentoo to go our
separate ways.

I think I've put my "fingerprint" on Gentoo in quite a few important ways but
lately I've come to the realization that I probably can't do any more for
Gentoo. No matter how hard I try fighting for what I feel is right we seem to
end up with petty fights, flamewars or what I consider even worse - people
simply ignore what I'm working hard towards.

So I think it's high time that I leave the project and start looking for
another project where I can contribute something important and not just try to
keep afloat in a project that I seem to be at odds with to an ever
increasing degree.

I'll try to reach all the projects I'm leaving over the next few days and see
if I can pass on my work in a reasonable manner. I probably won't be around
much on irc but if you really need to contact me you can do so at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Good luck to all of you and may Gentoo development be as much fun for you as
it used to be for me.

Best regards,
Bryan Østergaard
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[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-05-30 Thread Steve Long
Well speaking as a user who'd gladly help out with code-fixes for smaller
scale stuff, i think it's a great idea.

a few of the #friendly-coders would be glad to help out as well.

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[gentoo-dev] RFC: new bugzilla resolution: NEEDPATCH

2007-05-30 Thread Marius Mauch
I'm sure I'm not the only one who knows a number of (enhancement) bugs
that are fixable, but the assignee doesn't have the motivation to come
up with a solution, but would look at and eventually include a
user-submitted patch for it. Currently those would either be left open
forever or closed as WONTFIX which isn't compeltely accurate. Therefore
I propose a new bugzilla resolution NEEDPATCH so we're not stuck with
tons of open bugs that might never be closed (or get closed with a
somewhat incorrect resolution). It might also give people who want to
help a simpler target instead of browsing through all open bugs and
trying to find one where a user can work on.

Opinions?

Marius

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[gentoo-dev] Last Rites: net-misc/upnp (June 13.)

2007-05-30 Thread Bjarke Istrup Pedersen
# Bjarke Istrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (30 May 2007)
# masked for removal on 20070629
# Upstream is dead and there are several issues
# Please use net-libs/libupnp instead.
net-misc/upnp

Package has been dead for over a year (last release 20060305).
It has several knows issues, that has been fixed in net-libs/libupnp,
which is a fork of net-misc/upnp.

Unless anyone objects (and with a very good reason), I will remove
it from the tree on June 29.

GurliGebis
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[gentoo-dev] Maintainers desired for a few simple pkgs.

2007-05-30 Thread Ned Ludd
I'm looking to get rid of a few ebuilds I half ass maintain.

net-wireless/chillispot
(Open source captive portal or wireless LAN access point controller)

sys-devel/sparse
(C semantic parser)

Both are relativity low maintenance. 
Any takers? pretty please with party socks on top.

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Gentoo Linux

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Marking virtuals stable

2007-05-30 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Wed, 23 May 2007, Christian Faulhammer wrote:

> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Ulrich Mueller kirjoitti:
>>> The point of my question was more if the usual rules apply, i.e.:
>>> keywording and stabilising only by arch teams; wait one month
>>> before the package can go stable.

>> The month is not set in stone. About who marks them, it's probably
>> best to get the opinion of the arch teams. I don't think they will
>> object to normal developers marking them. Arch teams: what do you
>> think?

>  Speaking for x86/amd64 and Emacs...I am ok with that. :)

So, only this reply.

May I conclude that nobody objects to the above?

Ulrich
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