Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Foundation Elections

2008-01-30 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto

Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote:

Hello fellow devs, users and Gentoo community.
...
We ask all Foundation members and current devs to check if they are in 
the correct lists and to confirm their details. In particular, devs 
should check if they  don't lack a join date in the ldap record[10]. 
To check one's details, a dev should logon to dev.gentoo.org and run 
perl_ldap -s nick. Check infra's documentation for more info on 
Gentoo LDAP service[11] and concrete examples[12] on how to change 
attributes.


* [10] - 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~jmbsvicetto/trustees-election/missing-join-date

* [11] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/ldap.xml
* [12] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/ldap.xml#doc_chap3

Just to avoid any misunderstanding, although anyone can check their join 
date, only infra or recruiters can change that attribute. You can check 
the available attributes and who can change them in the Available 
Attributes section[13] of the Gentoo Infrastructure LDAP guide[11].


* [13] - http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/ldap.xml#doc_chap2

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Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-30 Thread Philip Webb
080128 Mike Frysinger wrote:
 now that the mktemp binary has been moved out of debianutils
 and integrated straight into coreutils,
 perhaps it's time to ask how important this package is to everyone.
 current debianutils is part of system and provides:
  - installkernel
  - run-parts
  - tempfile
  - savelog
  - mkboot
 do people consider these things critical ?
 i dont know the last time i personally needed/wanted any of these ...

'equery d debianutils' gives me 

  app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.2_pre20061230 (sys-apps/debianutils)
  app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (userland_GNU? sys-apps/debianutils)
  sys-apps/mktemp-1.5 (=sys-apps/debianutils-2.16.2)

The 2nd cb ignored, but the others seem important.
I have Mktemp-1.5 installed, so what do you mean by your lines 1-2 ?
Sysklogd seems to be an important pkg too.
What am I missing (smile) ?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-30 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Jan 30, 2008 6:35 PM, Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 'equery d debianutils' gives me

   app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.2_pre20061230 (sys-apps/debianutils)
   app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (userland_GNU? sys-apps/debianutils)
   sys-apps/mktemp-1.5 (=sys-apps/debianutils-2.16.2)

 The 2nd cb ignored, but the others seem important.
 I have Mktemp-1.5 installed, so what do you mean by your lines 1-2 ?
 Sysklogd seems to be an important pkg too.
 What am I missing (smile) ?

Removing debianutils from the system _set_ doesn't mean to completely
remove it from the portage tree or user systems. It'll be a dependency
of sysklogd and mktemp anyway. This change does not affect you.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 12:35 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
 'equery d debianutils' gives me 
 
   app-admin/sysklogd-1.4.2_pre20061230 (sys-apps/debianutils)
   app-portage/gentoolkit-0.2.3-r1 (userland_GNU? sys-apps/debianutils)
   sys-apps/mktemp-1.5 (=sys-apps/debianutils-2.16.2)
 
 The 2nd cb ignored, but the others seem important.
 I have Mktemp-1.5 installed, so what do you mean by your lines 1-2 ?

Funny enough, mktemp is included in newer coreutils.

 Sysklogd seems to be an important pkg too.

Unless you use metalog, or syslog-ng, or...

 What am I missing (smile) ?

That nothing that you've said counters the package not being needed in
the system target.  In fact, the packages that you list all explicitly
depend on debianutils, so they wouldn't break if we removed it from
system.  The problem is packages which require debianutils but do *not*
depend on it, because it's in system now.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] debianutils: system worthy ?

2008-01-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 10:32 -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 That nothing that you've said counters the package not being needed in
 the system target.  In fact, the packages that you list all explicitly
 depend on debianutils, so they wouldn't break if we removed it from
 system.  The problem is packages which require debianutils but do *not*
 depend on it, because it's in system now.

I'm running a stage build with debianutils removed from system.  I'll
let everyone know the results.  If it works, I'll do the same for a
LiveDVD build, which covers most of the major packages in the tree.
Sure, there might be a few stragglers after that, but I doubt that there
would be too many.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-30 Thread Vlastimil Babka

Chris Gianelloni wrote:

I think throwing up an announcement today/tomorrow for Thursday/Friday
should be sufficient for this sort of a change, as it won't affect any
user who has a version of portage released in the past ~1.5 years.


So, since it seems nobody objected it, time for the announcement? And 
the removal (server-side by robbat2) would be best done right before the 
snapshot?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:05:26AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
 Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 I think throwing up an announcement today/tomorrow for Thursday/Friday
 should be sufficient for this sort of a change, as it won't affect any
 user who has a version of portage released in the past ~1.5 years.
 So, since it seems nobody objected it, time for the announcement? And the 
 removal (server-side by robbat2) would be best done right before the 
 snapshot?
It's pretty much irrelevant to the snapshot. wolf31o2 has my patch to
exclude digests in the snapshot anyway.

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[gentoo-dev] How to get more involved?

2008-01-30 Thread Mateusz Mierzwinski

Hi!

I just want to know how to get more involved into Gentoo development? 
I'm student, programmer with C/C++/PHP and SQL knowledge (IPC, Shared 
Memory, Fifo's and pipes programming, threads, mutexes, fork's and 
demonization).  I've started my own project (http://www.matheos.org) 
called Apache:Ghost currently under development of beta version. What 
should I do to make ebuilds and upload it to main portage mirror?


Please send me some info's,
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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-30 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Jan 31, 2008 12:32 AM, Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:05:26AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
  Chris Gianelloni wrote:
  I think throwing up an announcement today/tomorrow for Thursday/Friday
  should be sufficient for this sort of a change, as it won't affect any
  user who has a version of portage released in the past ~1.5 years.
  So, since it seems nobody objected it, time for the announcement? And the
  removal (server-side by robbat2) would be best done right before the
  snapshot?
 It's pretty much irrelevant to the snapshot. wolf31o2 has my patch to
 exclude digests in the snapshot anyway.


Then I guess it could be done as soon as the doc patch is prepared...

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-30 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 00:45 +0100, Santiago M. Mola wrote:
 On Jan 31, 2008 12:32 AM, Robin H. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:05:26AM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
   Chris Gianelloni wrote:
   I think throwing up an announcement today/tomorrow for Thursday/Friday
   should be sufficient for this sort of a change, as it won't affect any
   user who has a version of portage released in the past ~1.5 years.
   So, since it seems nobody objected it, time for the announcement? And the
   removal (server-side by robbat2) would be best done right before the
   snapshot?
  It's pretty much irrelevant to the snapshot. wolf31o2 has my patch to
  exclude digests in the snapshot anyway.
 
 
 Then I guess it could be done as soon as the doc patch is prepared...

It really is best done in the tree first, so everything is correct for
the snapshot.  We didn't have much issue last time because we push
manifest1_obsolete into the snapshot, so digests are removed, anyway,
but I'd *really* prefer if this were done prior to the snapshot being
made.

The less fudging I have to do with the snapshot, the better.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] How to get more involved?

2008-01-30 Thread Torsten Rehn
On Thursday 31 January 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
 What should I do to make ebuilds and upload it to main portage mirror?

Take a look at the Gentoo docs on writing[1] and contributing[2] ebuilds. If 
you've got any further questions, try the gentoo-dev-help mailing list or the 
#gentoo-dev-help irc channel. Please note that this list is intended to be 
used for discussion of Gentoo development, not ebuild development.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=1
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-30 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 04:14:48PM -0800, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
 It really is best done in the tree first, so everything is correct for
 the snapshot.  We didn't have much issue last time because we push
 manifest1_obsolete into the snapshot, so digests are removed, anyway,
 but I'd *really* prefer if this were done prior to the snapshot being
 made.
Ok, so we're just blocking on the docs guys.

Are they actively working on it so I can go ahead and take the digests
out anyway?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] How to get more involved?

2008-01-30 Thread Alec Warner
On 1/30/08, Torsten Rehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 31 January 2008, Mateusz Mierzwinski wrote:
  What should I do to make ebuilds and upload it to main portage mirror?

 Take a look at the Gentoo docs on writing[1] and contributing[2] ebuilds. If
 you've got any further questions, try the gentoo-dev-help mailing list or the
 #gentoo-dev-help irc channel. Please note that this list is intended to be

gentoo-devhelp (one dash, not two).  gentoo-dev-help will get you
'help' about how to use our mailing list software ;)

 used for discussion of Gentoo development, not ebuild development.

 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=1
 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ebuild-submit.xml

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[gentoo-dev] looking for a mentor

2008-01-30 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all,


I've been talking with jsin about becoming a dev, specifically to help
with SynCE.  I'm working on ebuilds for a major update, which are mostly
done, except for a couple of niggling problems.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178807
http://www.synce.org/moin/IainBuchanan

jsin is a bit busy (and not at 6 months yet) so he can't mentor me,
although he still offers help as time permits.  I would therefore like
to see if anyone wants to volunteer their mentoring prowess to get me to
developer status :)

I've done the quiz (a couple of small holes), and I've read the
developer handbook and various other bits of doco around the web.  I'm
active in gentoo-user, and recently I've been silently watching
gentoo-dev gentoo-project and gentoo-dev-announce.  Oh, and I've been
using for about ... 4 or 5 years.

I'm also usually on Freenode as iaindb.

Feel free to ask me any questions.

many thanks,
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