Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings

2008-02-16 Thread Rémi Cardona

Oleg Puchinin a écrit :

Day kind!
I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question.
What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages?
 Why to not make public system of ratings? For example voting


We already have such a implicit rating system :) It's called bugzilla. 
Just count the currently open bugs for a given package, that will give 
you a pretty good estimate of how well it {mis,}behaves.


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[gentoo-dev] public system of ratings

2008-02-16 Thread Oleg Puchinin
Day kind!
I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question.
What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages?
 Why to not make public system of ratings? For example voting

 is not compiled At all 
works
...
It is excellent
I wish to see a package in Gentoo 

And so for each [new] package.

Oleg.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings

2008-02-16 Thread Oleg Puchinin
One hundred programmers which only also do that dig in mountain bugs
a kind  new package , it, in my opinion, how to use a steam hammer
to crack nuts. Can it is necessary to make the processes occuring in
Gentoo by more public?


On Feb 16, 2008 3:06 PM, Rémi Cardona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oleg Puchinin a écrit :
  Day kind!
  I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question.
  What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages?
   Why to not make public system of ratings? For example voting

 We already have such a implicit rating system :) It's called bugzilla.
 Just count the currently open bugs for a given package, that will give
 you a pretty good estimate of how well it {mis,}behaves.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings

2008-02-16 Thread Daniel Black
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:49:09 pm Oleg Puchinin wrote:
 Day kind!
 I recently have started to use Gentoo, and I had one question.

I counted two.

 What for to charge developers of a problem of check of packages?
I don't know what this means.

  Why to not make public system of ratings?

There has been no major motivation to implement such a system.
  For example voting 

  is not compiled At all 
 works
 ...
 It is excellent
 I wish to see a package in Gentoo 

bugs.gentoo.org has the ability to assign votes to bugs. If you like something 
you can blog about it.

 And so for each [new] package.

Small amounts of this can be done on bug reports.

Get involved with overlay projects like sunrise to increase the usages of 
packages you like. Maybe oneday you'll even become a gentoo developer and can 
make a package mainstream.


 Oleg.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings

2008-02-16 Thread Torsten Rehn
On Saturday 16 February 2008, Oleg Puchinin wrote:
  is not compiled At all 
 works

All stable ebuilds in the tree should work, if they don't that's an exception 
and will probably get fixed soon after the failure is discovered anyway.
Anyone who is willing to test a new keyword in an ebuild shouldn't have a 
problem filing a KEYWORDREQ in Bugzilla.

 It is excellent

If you want package ratings, take a look at ohloh.net or something, shouldn't 
be hard (for a human) to map the package names there to the ones in Gentoo.

 I wish to see a package in Gentoo 

Again, all the most important software is already in the tree, if you need 
something else, filing a bug is not too much effort.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] public system of ratings

2008-02-16 Thread Peter Volkov
Oleg, please, do not top post.

В Сбт, 16/02/2008 в 15:16 +0600, Oleg Puchinin пишет:
 One hundred programmers which only also do that dig in mountain bugs
 a kind  new package , it, in my opinion, how to use a steam hammer
 to crack nuts. Can it is necessary to make the processes occuring in
 Gentoo by more public?

It's hard to understand what you suggested here. But I think that the
answer is: even if new package compiles and works on 10^{any number
here} systems, without maintainer it will not go in the tree and public
testing does not help to resolve new package bugs. OTOH I already
wrote you in gentoo-ru 2 possibilities how you can get your package in
the tree and mentioned sunrise overlay...

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[gentoo-dev] virtual/pager

2008-02-16 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file,
which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual.  Have I forgotten
a pager?  Is there anyone in opposition to it?

V-Li

[1] URL:http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=209624

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-analyzer/cacti: ChangeLog metadata.xml cacti-0.8.7a-r2.ebuild cacti-0.8.6j-r8.ebuild cacti-0.8.7b.ebuild cacti-0.8.7a-r1.ebuild cacti-0.8

2008-02-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:25:43 +0300
Peter Volkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This does no harm and can help in situations when web-app upstream
 modified bundled adodb in non compatible way. But well, I'll drop it
 from USE flags and define environmental variable inside ebuild to show
 that although there is possibility to use bundled adodb it's not
 supported.

A USE flag is better than an environment variable. Environment
variables aren't easily visible to the end user beforehand.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual/pager

2008-02-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:34:29 +0100
Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file,
 which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual.  Have I
 forgotten a pager?  Is there anyone in opposition to it?

Is there any point to it existing at all?

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[gentoo-dev] Re: virtual/pager

2008-02-16 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file,
 which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual.  Have I
 forgotten a pager?  Is there anyone in opposition to it?

 And now I really append the ebuild.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Re: virtual/pager

2008-02-16 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:34:29 +0100
 Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  going from bug 209624 [1], I created a virtual/pager-0.ebuild file,
  which transfers the old-style to a new-style virtual.  Have I
  forgotten a pager?  Is there anyone in opposition to it?
 Is there any point to it existing at all?

 base profile wants it...no other package seems to depend on it.

V-Li

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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo at PyCon 2008 in Chicago

2008-02-16 Thread Matthew Summers
Greetings Gentoo Devs,

I'm writing to let everyone know about a Gentoo Birds of a Feather at
PyCon 2008 in Chicago.
We have room Love Int'l A scheduled for Saturday, March 15, from 6PM to
(PM (or later).

Please post to this forum if you have a moment, and you are planning on
attending PyCon.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-659597.html

For more information on the conference see this site:
http://us.pycon.org/2008/about/

And for other Open Spaces meetings see here:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/Open_Space

Early registration ends on 20 Feb. so be sure to get the discounted rate
if you are planning on attending!

Hope to see you there!

Best Regards,

QuantumSummers

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[gentoo-dev] New developer: Ben de Groot (yngwin)

2008-02-16 Thread Petteri Räty
Another slacker to join the ranks. Took 8 months for him to get the 
quizes done and reviewed but finally there. He will be working on 
multimedia ebuilds. Ben hails from Arnemuiden, NL. He should be a 
familiar nick for many from our IRC channels. As a tip to all of our 
female readers out there, he is single and plays the bass quitar.


Let's see how long before he breaks the three,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-analyzer/cacti: ChangeLog metadata.xml cacti-0.8.7a-r2.ebuild cacti-0.8.6j-r8.ebuild cacti-0.8.7b.ebuild cacti-0.8.7a-r1.ebuild cacti-0.8

2008-02-16 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 15:25 Sat 16 Feb , Peter Volkov wrote:
 В Чтв, 14/02/2008 в 23:19 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет: 
 use bundled-adodb || phpUseFlags=${phpUseFlags} sockets
  
  Why is bundling even an option? We should always force external packages 
  to be used, or we end up with more zlib messes.
 
 This does no harm and can help in situations when web-app upstream
 modified bundled adodb in non compatible way.

It does do harm. It prevents our package management system from doing 
what it's there to do.

If they're modifying the bundled adodb incompatibly, then the USE flag 
would also be obsolete because you'd need to force it to be bundled. 
What would help more is a good swift kick in the pants to the people 
doing the modifying to tell them to send their changes to adodb 
upstream.

Thanks,
Donnie
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