Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for July 24

2008-07-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 17:13 Mon 21 Jul , Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote 
> on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev 
> list to see.

Here's the list of ongoing items from 2 weeks ago: 
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_bb3a3a0c1b0acb771a263294a67b722e.xml

Here's the council summary from 2 weeks ago: 
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20080710-summary.txt

GLEP 54 has not received any updates since the last meeting so hopefully 
it will for the first August meeting.

The as-needed proposal is waiting on antarus.

The userrel and CoC threads on the -council mailing list haven't yet 
received replies from the majority of council members. Council, please 
post your opinions to them by the end of this week so we can get those 
dealt with.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com


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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for July 24

2008-07-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd/4th 
Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ 
irc.freenode.net) !

If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote 
on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo dev 
list to see.

Keep in mind that every GLEP *re*submission to the council for review 
must first be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list 7 days (minimum) 
before being submitted as an agenda item which itself occurs 7 days 
before the meeting. Simply put, the gentoo-dev mailing list must be 
notified at least 14 days before the meeting itself.

For more info on the Gentoo Council, feel free to browse our homepage:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/

(Since I'm at a conference and consequently sent this notice <7 days in 
advance, feel free to submit new agenda items late as well. We need to 
set up a new cron job for this.)

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com


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Re: [gentoo-dev] system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-21 Thread Doug Goldstein

Marius Mauch wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:02:57 -0400
Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Marius Mauch wrote:


Now that's a big exaggeration. It _might_ be missing from world
updates (there are still many cases where it will be included), but
that's not the only available operation in portage.

Marius
  
  

We discussed this in #gentoo-portage the other day where I had a
machine that was on gcc 4.3.1 (not -r1) and glibc 2.7 and didn't want
to upgrade either of those packages to the latest ~arch.



I know, but just because it did (not) happen in your case doesn't mean
it will be the same for everyone else.

Marius

  
Given the same package set and world file that I have, it will happen 
every time. Also specific variations of my package set and world file 
will result in the issue. Which means that it will occur for other 
people but no one ever said everyone.




Re: [gentoo-dev] system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:02:57 -0400
Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Marius Mauch wrote:
> > Now that's a big exaggeration. It _might_ be missing from world
> > updates (there are still many cases where it will be included), but
> > that's not the only available operation in portage.
> >
> > Marius
> >   
> We discussed this in #gentoo-portage the other day where I had a
> machine that was on gcc 4.3.1 (not -r1) and glibc 2.7 and didn't want
> to upgrade either of those packages to the latest ~arch.
> 
I know, but just because it did (not) happen in your case doesn't mean
it will be the same for everyone else.

Marius



Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Varner
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 08:44 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> packages that are in a herd, but could need someone dedicated to it:
> 
>   app-portage/elogv, elogviewer, kelogviewer (tools-portage) -- low
> maintenance

I'll take care of these packages.

Regards,
Paul



Re: [gentoo-dev] system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-21 Thread Doug Goldstein

Marius Mauch wrote:

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:01:28 -0400
Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

Olivier CrĂȘte wrote:


On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:01 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote:
  
  

This brings out the fun of circular depends. I don't really know
how to address this but a lot of packages are going to have to be
updated to contain proper depends. i.e. C based apps will need 
RDEPEND="virtual/libc". C++ packages will need a stdc++ depend.



Adding a dep to libc almost everywhere seems extremely wrong to me.
I though we had decided many times that it was a bad idea.

  
  

Yes. Adding libc everywhere is wrong. However, if you don't have one
of the packages listed here [1], your libc won't ever update.



Now that's a big exaggeration. It _might_ be missing from world updates
(there are still many cases where it will be included), but that's not
the only available operation in portage.

Marius
  
We discussed this in #gentoo-portage the other day where I had a machine 
that was on gcc 4.3.1 (not -r1) and glibc 2.7 and didn't want to upgrade 
either of those packages to the latest ~arch.




[gentoo-dev] Last rites: gnustep-apps/helpviewer, gnustep-apps/mylibrary

2008-07-21 Thread Bernard Cafarelli

# Bernard Cafarelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (21 Jul 2008)
# Masked for removal in 30 days 
# Do not compile anymore with current GNUstep, dead upstream
# gnustep-apps/helpviewer: bug #232440, last release in 2003
# gnustep-apps/mylibrary: bug #232438, last release in 2004
gnustep-apps/helpviewer
gnustep-apps/mylibrary

-- 
Bernard Cafarelli (Voyageur)
NX and GNUstep Gentoo developer