Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Peter Volkov
Why it's so hard not to delete ebuilds from the tree? Also it was already discussed that if maintainer wishes he/she could drop some keywords from old ebuild, e.g. if you have more recent version of package stabilized on arch, just drop arch keyword from the old ebuild. В Пнд, 10/11/2008 в 20:21

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jose Luis Rivero
Mark Loeser wrote: Jose Luis Rivero [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mark, I think you are looking at the problem only with the ebuild maintainer hat put on. We have other players in our business, being one of them the users. This policy would bring too many problems to them so .. nono by my side. I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 17:26 +, Duncan wrote: Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:24:50 +0100: Words like production, critical and important can be applied as easily to the state of a company's or nation's system as to a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:06:02 + (UTC) Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's a production, critical, important system, then what is one doing installing updates on it directly without verifying them on a generally identical test system first? Now you're ridiculing the idea of having a

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Duncan
Jeroen Roovers [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:12:41 +0100: You did it again in the IOW quotation above explaining it as a triple emphasis instead of what it was intended to denote, namely as a few possible examples of the meaning of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Jose Luis Rivero
Richard Freeman wrote: Jose Luis Rivero wrote: I would prefer to analyze the causes of the slacker arch (manpower, hardware, etc) and if we are not able to solve the problem by any way (asking for new devs, buying hardware, etc) go for mark it as experimental and drop all stable keywords.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 11:18 +0100, Jose Luis Rivero wrote: Richard Freeman wrote: Jose Luis Rivero wrote: I would prefer to analyze the causes of the slacker arch (manpower, hardware, etc) and if we are not able to solve the problem by any way (asking for new devs, buying hardware, etc)

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-11 Thread Duncan
Jose Luis Rivero [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:18:34 +0100: Mixing software branches is very easy in the Gentoo world but it has some problems. Are you going to install in your stable (production, critial, important,...) system a

[gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Mark Loeser
So, gentoo-wiki.com went down for a awhile and took something away from our users something that is useful. Its back now, but I think we should consider having our own official wiki that our users can contribute to. We already have something very similar to this on the forums, and this would just

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Joe Peterson
Mark Loeser wrote: What are others feelings on this? What issues do you see with having a wiki? Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see with us having a wiki? +1! I have set up several wikis for work projects and used many others to great benefit. Even those (on my work projects)

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Mark Loeser wrote: So, gentoo-wiki.com went down for a awhile and took something away from our users something that is useful. Its back now, but I think we should consider having our own official wiki that our users can contribute to. We already have something very similar to this on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:45:32 -0500 Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, gentoo-wiki.com went down for a awhile and took something away from our users something that is useful. Its back now, but I think we should consider having our own official wiki that our users can contribute to. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Iain Buchanan
Mark Loeser wrote: So, gentoo-wiki.com went down for a awhile and took something away from our users something that is useful. Its back now, but I think we should consider having our own official wiki that our users can contribute to. We already have something very similar to this on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:45:32 -0500 Mark Loeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are others feelings on this? What issues do you see with having a wiki? Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see with us having a wiki? What will policy on articles that are horribly dangerous or outright

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:45:32 -0500 Mark Loeser[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are others feelings on this? What issues do you see with having a wiki? Do you see anyway to resolve the issue you see with us having a wiki? What will policy on articles that are

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Jeremy Olexa
Mark Loeser wrote: So, gentoo-wiki.com went down for a awhile and took something away from our users something that is useful. Its back now, but I think we should consider having our own official wiki that our users can contribute to. We already have something very similar to this on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 08:39:41PM -0600, Jeremy Olexa wrote: I am throwing this out there, can we ask Mike Valstar for a dump of all his stuff, slap it on gentoo hardware under a wiki.gentoo.org link? It could be a community building experience and offering the stability of gentoo hardware