Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2009, Tiziano Müller wrote: > You forgot to mentioned that we probably also want that > default_src_configure/src_compile die when they try to `cd` to an > invalid ${S}. Sorry, seems that I've missed the discussion on this one. There is no 'cd "${S}"' command in the default

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Luca Barbato
Ryan Hill wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:22:36 +0100 Tiziano Müller wrote: * Am I to take it src_test is to remain in its current worthless state? Yes, I'd like to see it enable by default as well, but we have to discuss that further. So, not suited for a fast eapi release. Please fix all 'p

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Thomas Anderson wrote: > While I'm sure there will be arguments for and against this, their merit > really does not matter. What matters is that this is completely offtopic > for the question of what should be in EAPI 3, and those feature's > specification. Please

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:54:02 + Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:51:00 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:22:36 +0100 > > Tiziano Müller wrote: > > > > * Am I to take it src_test is to remain in its current worthless > > > > state? > > > Yes, I'd like to see i

Re: [gentoo-dev] timezone and other moving rc variables.

2009-03-16 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:46 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > As per http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml under the > "Clock" heading. I know, reading documentation is an acquired taste... ;-) I've never seen this documentation before, didn't know it existed. maybe things like the timezone-

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:59:45PM +0100, Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > On Monday 16 of March 2009 21:47:17 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > I've got a very rough draft of what EAPI 3 might end up looking like, > > based upon discussion: > [cut] > > Nice work. > To avoid further confusion I'd suggest removi

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:05:07 -0100 "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" wrote: > the point about kdebuild-1 and PMS was settled by the previous council > who decided that it wasn't and would never be part of the Gentoo PMS > and asked you to remove it from the document. Hence the "remove kdebuild" switch

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:26:36 +0100 > Tomáš Chvátal wrote: >>> Why? It was an official EAPI agreed upon by the Gentoo KDE project. >>> Having it there is helpful for package manager people, and removing >>> it would just mean m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:51:00 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:22:36 +0100 > Tiziano Müller wrote: > > > * Am I to take it src_test is to remain in its current worthless > > > state? > > Yes, I'd like to see it enable by default as well, but we have to > > discuss that further. So,

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:22:36 +0100 Tiziano Müller wrote: > > * Am I to take it src_test is to remain in its current worthless > > state? > Yes, I'd like to see it enable by default as well, but we have to > discuss that further. So, not suited for a fast eapi release. Please fix all 'pkg fails t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-16 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Petteri Räty schrieb: >>> Thomas Sachau wrote: I would like to know, if there is some policy about editing skel.* files or who owns/maintains them. Additionally, i suggest some ch

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:26:36 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > Why? It was an official EAPI agreed upon by the Gentoo KDE project. > > Having it there is helpful for package manager people, and removing > > it would just mean more work when features make their way into > > Portage. Besides, if you re

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Tomáš Chvátal
Dne úterý 17 Březen 2009 00:20:11 Ciaran McCreesh napsal(a): > On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:59:45 +0100 > > Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > > To avoid further confusion I'd suggest removing all traces of > > kdebuild- format and its features (like PDEPEND labels, ranged > > dependencies) from PMS document, es

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Tiziano Müller
Thanks a lot for your work. Am Montag, den 16.03.2009, 20:47 + schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: > I've got a very rough draft of what EAPI 3 might end up looking like, > based upon discussion: > > http://github.com/ciaranm/pms/tree/eapi-3 > > Note that I will probably rebase and modifying the b

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:59:45 +0100 Maciej Mrozowski wrote: > To avoid further confusion I'd suggest removing all traces of > kdebuild- format and its features (like PDEPEND labels, ranged > dependencies) from PMS document, especially its references to Gentoo > KDE project. It has not been accepted

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 16/03/2009 23:59, Maciej Mrozowski a écrit : * RDEPEND=DEPEND is still in. Again, was a decision reached? Imho it would be about time to kill implicit build time dependency assignment. +1, let's rip it out. Rémi

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Monday 16 of March 2009 21:47:17 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I've got a very rough draft of what EAPI 3 might end up looking like, > based upon discussion: [cut] Nice work. To avoid further confusion I'd suggest removing all traces of kdebuild- format and its features (like PDEPEND labels, ranged

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Sachau wrote: > Petteri Räty schrieb: >> Thomas Sachau wrote: >>> I would like to know, if there is some policy about editing skel.* files or >>> who owns/maintains them. >>> Additionally, i suggest some changes to skel.ebuild: >>> >> Posts dif

[gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-03-16 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
I've got a very rough draft of what EAPI 3 might end up looking like, based upon discussion: http://github.com/ciaranm/pms/tree/eapi-3 Note that I will probably rebase and modifying the branch quite a bit, so if you don't know how to deal with that when using git, don't track it. It should b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-16 Thread Thomas Sachau
Petteri Räty schrieb: > Thomas Sachau wrote: >> I would like to know, if there is some policy about editing skel.* files or >> who owns/maintains them. >> Additionally, i suggest some changes to skel.ebuild: >> > > Posts diffs to gentoo-dev and if there are no objections --> commit. > > Regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo KVM images now available :)

2009-03-16 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:53 AM, wrote: Hi, I already posted some initial images on tinderbox. http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/virtualization/amd64/ Some weeks old by now. But I am fairly confident that image building can be made automatic via scripting. Granted, I did not make an announcemen