Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 01-07-2009 22:00:23 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: On behalf of the Elections project, the next Gentoo Council will be composed of:- Ned Ludd (solar) Petteri Räty (betelgeuse) Denis Dupeyron(calchan) Tobias Scherbaum (dertobi123) Ulrich Müller

[gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
If there are no further objections, and if I have the OK from Jorge i'll commit the following tonight (name: 2009-07-02-kdeprefix+monolithics.en.txt). Btw is it possible the following message to be uploaded in gentoo.org main site as well? Also, you can send me translations, see

[gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hallo, Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org: If there are no further objections, and if I have the OK from Jorge i'll commit the following tonight Fine by me. Also, you can send me translations So you will provide Greek I assume. Here comes German. Title: kdeprefix and monolithic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:27:34 Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hallo, Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org: If there are no further objections, and if I have the OK from Jorge i'll commit the following tonight Fine by me. Also, you can send me translations So you will provide

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Freeman
Doug Goldstein wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Ned Luddso...@gentoo.org wrote: Meetings will likely go back to one time per month and be +m with +v be handed out per request with open chat pre/post meetings. The reason for this is to keep the meetings on-track. I won't engage in endless

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ferris McCormick
There's a lot of good stuff to think about here. For what it's worth, some initial comments. On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 19:33 -0700, Ned Ludd wrote: The dev population is quite a strange beast. I never expected to win. Why would you vote for somebody who did not even publish a manifesto? I don't

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Ned Ludd wrote: The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything other than be really vocal in what seems like a never ending battle. That needs

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Tobias Scherbaumdertobi...@gentoo.org wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Alec Warner wrote: What I'd like to see for sure is a formal rule on who can decide to modify or change parts of glep 39. As it's the council's constitution somehow, we have two options from my pov (besides that a former council did decide the council itself can change it's rules): - a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Scherbaum
Mike Frysinger wrote: here's an item that should be relatively quick to address: fix the typo in GLEP 39 where this line is missing (it's been in the council homepage forever): Only Gentoo developers may be nominated I'd like to add that requirement for proxies as well. Varied

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Rémi Cardona
Ned Ludd a écrit : [snip, lots of insightful stuff I either agree with or don't really understand] So lets have some damn fun again !...@#$ _That_ I whole heartedly agree with. Please, all of you in the new council, try to keep this in mind :) Thanks Rémi

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council Elections Results for term 2009/2010

2009-07-02 Thread Torsten Veller
* Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org: The full ranked list of candidates, in order, is:- solar betelgeuse calchan dertobi123 ulm leio lu_zero patrick dev-zero ssuominen scarabeus gentoofan23 peper _reopen_nominations Can you please publish the full ranking output?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:02:45 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: here's an item that should be relatively quick to address: fix the typo in GLEP 39 where this line is missing (it's been in the council homepage forever): Only Gentoo developers may be nominated I'd like

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 July 2009 10:54:05 Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Ned Ludd wrote: The devs have a voice one time of the year: when it comes time to vote. But what about the rest of the year? What happens when the person you voted for sucks? You are mostly powerless to do anything other than be

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Denis Dupeyron
I'll have things to say about this but I'm still in the woods with dialup until monday. So either I can get close to a fatter pipe later today or tomorrow, or I'll do it on monday night from home. Denis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Michael Higgins
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:33:52 -0700 Ned Ludd so...@gentoo.org wrote: My only intention was to help offset dev-zero being able force the will of outside forces upon us. Well that has been accomplished for now (w00t). What is this all about? Did I miss something? Was Gentoo threatened with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Exim and Sendmail need a maintainer

2009-07-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 24-06-2009 13:51:37 +, Torsten Veller wrote: | mail-mta/exim. I'm looking for users that want to help maintaining Exim. Especially if you feel like becoming a Gentoo developer at some time, contact me directly. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level

Re: [gentoo-dev] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 02 July 2009 13:47:45 Michael Higgins wrote: On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:33:52 -0700 Ned Ludd wrote: My only intention was to help offset dev-zero being able force the will of outside forces upon us. Well that has been accomplished for now (w00t). What is this all about? Did I miss

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, in general you speak about the council but do you have any concrete plans/goals you want to achieve? Ned Ludd so...@gentoo.org: The dev population is quite a strange beast. I never expected to win. Nor did I, especially because you were quite low on my ballot. Congratulations. The devs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:14:25 +0200 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote: Another one of the things I'd like to see and help reform with the council. First off it spends way too much time on EAPI/PMS. There is no reason to make the council an extension of the portage team. As member

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:14:25 +0200 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote: Another one of the things I'd like to see and help reform with the council. First off it spends way too much time on EAPI/PMS. There is no reason to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:29:39 +0200 Christian Faulhammer fa...@gentoo.org wrote: Which groups who would like to be able to contribute currently feel that they can't, why do they feel that and why haven't they said so? For example people from the other package managers apart from Paludis.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Exim and Sendmail need a maintainer

2009-07-02 Thread AllenJB
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 24-06-2009 13:51:37 +, Torsten Veller wrote: | mail-mta/exim. I'm looking for users that want to help maintaining Exim. Especially if you feel like becoming a Gentoo developer at some time, contact me directly. I recommend you post this to planet, the forums,

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Ned Ludd
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 22:14 +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, in general you speak about the council but do you have any concrete plans/goals you want to achieve? I think we are in the information gathering phase right now on how to best proceed. So nothing concrete as of this point.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for kdeprefix

2009-07-02 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
commited, thank you all for the suggestions and the translations. I'll have to ask again though, is it possible to have it in the main site as well? in fact, who is in charge for the main site? gdp maybe? On Thursday 02 July 2009 11:50:29 Theo Chatzimichos wrote: On Thursday 02 July 2009

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-news r11 - in 2009: . 07 07/2009-07-02-kdeprefix+monolithics

2009-07-02 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Theo Chatzimichos (tampakrap) tampak...@gentoo.org: +[0] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml \ No newline at end of file You should configure your editor correctly. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-council] A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Tobias Scherbaum wrote: Alec Warner wrote: What I'd like to see for sure is a formal rule on who can decide to modify or change parts of glep 39. As it's the council's constitution somehow, we have two options from my pov (besides that a former council did decide the council itself can change

[gentoo-dev] Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-02 Thread Duncan
Tobias Scherbaum dertobi...@gentoo.org posted 1246546445.6186.33.ca...@homer.ob.libexec.de, excerpted below, on Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:54:05 +0200: Ned Ludd wrote: I'd like to see the dev body have a year-round voice in the council. Either via quick votes year-round on topics or simply by having

[gentoo-portage-dev] layman: appending overlay list on cmdline

2009-07-02 Thread Amit Dor-Shifer
Hi, I'm assuming this is be the right place to discuss layman. If not, please redirect me and ignore the rest. I'm using layman-1.1.1 (not the most-recent). Its -o option appends additional overlays to the list found in layman.cfg. If an overlay appears in both lists, the one from cfg takes

[gentoo-portage-dev] prefix-portage-2.2.00.13734 with --nodeps merges in reverse order

2009-07-02 Thread Michael Haubenwallner
Hi, seems prefix-portage as of r13734, when used with '--nodeps', does merge packages in reverse order than given on cmdline, but I don't believe this is a prefix issue... prefix-portage r13683 does merge in correct order. /haubi/ -- Michael Haubenwallner Gentoo on a different level

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] prefix-portage-2.2.00.13734 with --nodeps merges in reverse order

2009-07-02 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 02-07-2009 15:31:16 +0200, Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Hi, seems prefix-portage as of r13734, when used with '--nodeps', does merge packages in reverse order than given on cmdline, but I don't believe this is a prefix issue... prefix-portage r13683 does merge in correct order. 13734

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] prefix-portage-2.2.00.13734 with --nodeps merges in reverse order

2009-07-02 Thread Zac Medico
Michael Haubenwallner wrote: Hi, seems prefix-portage as of r13734, when used with '--nodeps', does merge packages in reverse order than given on cmdline, but I don't believe this is a prefix issue... prefix-portage r13683 does merge in correct order. /haubi/ Thanks, fixed in r13757.