[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 13:29:04 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:55:22 -0600 > Ryan Hill wrote: > > > That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. You'll need to > > > propose it for EAPI 4 if you want that. > > > > Why is that (seriously curious, not disagreeing)? Portag

[gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-4.4 unmasking soon

2009-08-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:27:26 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > It's best to keep the number of external packages needed to build the > > toolchain to a bare minimum. Anything that isn't a hard requirement should > > be a USE flag. We also need to be able to bootstrap without a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [GSoC status] Web-based image builder

2009-08-13 Thread Eitan Mosenkis
This week is my last for SoC this summer, so unless I do something groundbreaking tomorrow, this will be my last status report. I was hoping to be able to show off a working server with Ingenue running on it by this time, but I'm still waiting for all the difficulties with getting a root-access se

[gentoo-dev] cvs remove -fR gentoo-x86/profiles/obsolete

2009-08-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
profiles/obsolete will be gone inside ~24 hours from posting this mail thanks, Samuli

Re: [gentoo-dev] base/use.defaults

2009-08-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 13:13:27 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Do we still need it? It appears to be very unmaintained. And if there's > 3rd party tools that still need it, I wouldn't count them qualifying. > > Suggestion: cvs remove -f it's been deprecated for pretty much ever (it was known to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:22:16 +0100 Steven J Long wrote: > > PMS accurately reflects the Portage documentation and the commit > > message that introduced the feature -- it's purely for use > > in /etc/portage/, which is beyond the scope of PMS. > > > If it's pre-EAPI it's part of EAPI '0'. That you

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Steven J Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:50:26 + (UTC) > Mark Bateman wrote: >> > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 >> > Tomáš Chvátal gentoo.org> wrote: >> > > Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage >> > > already handles it right). >> > >> > That's a seperate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:06:04 + (UTC) Mark Bateman wrote: > > And it shouldn't be until it's gone through the proper process to > > become a documented, controlled feature rather than an accident > > people are exploiting. > > > > Seriously, this isn't difficult to do. I get the impression peo

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Bateman
Ciaran McCreesh googlemail.com> writes: > PMS documents what ebuilds may or may not rely upon from the package > manager. PMS, like the Portage document, says that package.mask is a > file. And main tree ebuild can rely on that. There are no directory-based package.mask in the main portage tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Devaway for me, for a whole year period(military service)

2009-08-13 Thread Ben de Groot
Markos Chandras wrote: > Now, it is my time to say goodbye ( but not forever ) . I am *forced* to join > the greek army from 16/8/2009 until May 2010. So I wont be active during this > period. When I come back, I expect a more shiny Gentoo which will provide > great experiences to our users. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:32:56 + (UTC) Mark Bateman wrote: > > It is not the business of PMS to enforce undocumented features that > > Portage supports only by accident and that aren't used in the tree. > > PMS doesn't depict just what portage should do, just what ebuild's in > the main tree ar

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Bateman
Ciaran McCreesh googlemail.com> writes: > > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:50:26 + (UTC) > Mark Bateman soon.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 > > > Tomáš Chvátal gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage > > > > already handles it r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stats test server running, please check it out

2009-08-13 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Sebastian Pipping wrote: > An ebuild for manServer is in the pipeline, currently waiting for the > next reply from upstream. manServer ebuild here, new 1.08 release from upstream http://git.goodpoint.de/?p=overlay-sping.git;a=tree;f=app-text/manserver Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Thursday 13 of August 2009 12:35:43 Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 23:55 -0600 schrieb Ryan Hill: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0100 > > > > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 > > > > > > Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > > > Also we should allow t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Tiziano Müller wrote: > To avoid collision with the current package.mask I'd prefer > package.mask.d/ for the directory. Also makes the transition easy since > we can generate package.mask out of the files in package.mask.d/. > I completely agree with this. A scrip

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:50:26 + (UTC) Mark Bateman wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 > > Tomáš Chvátal gentoo.org> wrote: > > > Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage > > > already handles it right). > > > > That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. Yo

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Bateman
Ciaran McCreesh googlemail.com> writes: > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 > Tomáš Chvátal gentoo.org> wrote: > > Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage already > > handles it right). > > That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. You'll need to propose > it for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:55:22 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > > That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. You'll need to > > propose it for EAPI 4 if you want that. > > Why is that (seriously curious, not disagreeing)? Portage has > supported this for quite a while now. Does the current PMS disa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant'

2009-08-13 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 23:55 -0600 schrieb Ryan Hill: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:46:56 +0100 > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 > > Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > > > Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage already > > > handles it right). > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-4.4 unmasking soon

2009-08-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
Ryan Hill wrote: > It's best to keep the number of external packages needed to build the > toolchain to a bare minimum. Anything that isn't a hard requirement should > be a USE flag. We also need to be able to bootstrap without a C++ compiler, > which one of graphite's dependencies (PPL) needs.