Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Peter Volkov
The bug you mentioned [253725] is not about layman location, it's only about keepdir line. Why don't we fix that and don't change defaults another time? Such change does more harm for our users then good. В Сбт, 16/01/2010 в 02:55 +0100, Sebastian Pipping пишет: On 01/16/10 02:45, Mike Frysinger

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Lars Wendler
It's just impossible to choose perfect location that suits all needs and it should stay user-configurable. So again, do not change this default we no real need another time, please. /usr/local is a bad choice for an ebuild-generated default. Like I said in bug #253725 I don't want ebuilds to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 15-01-2010 20:36:20 +0100, Sebastian Pipping wrote: I would like to get it right with the next switch. Would /var/lib/layman do well? /var/cache/layman seems inadequate as it might not be regenerated [2] without losses (as upstream moves along). Would be great to hear a few

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Lars Wendler polynomia...@gentoo.org wrote: It's just impossible to choose perfect location that suits all needs and it should stay user-configurable. So again, do not change this default we no real need another time, please. /usr/local is a bad choice for an

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Ben de Groot
2010/1/16 Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org: On 01/16/10 02:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: if you want to keep all of layman's stuff together, then about your only option is to create your own tree at like /var/layman/. anybody objecting to /var/layman ? I like that. -- Ben de Groot Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Ben de Groot
2010/1/16 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org: layman cache is nfs distributable. Also it's good idea to have it close to PORTDIR. Thus I'd like to keep it somewhere at /usr. I'd like both to be under /var/ Cheers, -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: ccc.eclass

2010-01-16 Thread Petteri Räty
On 01/12/2010 12:23 AM, Brian Harring wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 09:25:51PM +0100, Raaal Porcel wrote: scarabeus told me that the eclass can't be removed until two years since the deprecation date, so... Removal of the eclass on 2012/01/11 Reasoning? Prior to env saving we couldn't

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/16/10 05:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 15 January 2010 20:55:18 Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 01/16/10 02:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: the better idea though would be to split your stuff along the proper lines. cache files = /var/cache/layman/ as i said: it's not a normal cache.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/16/10 12:17, Fabian Groffen wrote: How about storing it in DISTDIR (like metadata.xml)? Or storing it somewhere in the rsync image? I'm not really sure what you have in mind. Can you make it a bit more visual for me? Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/16/10 13:56, Ben de Groot wrote: anybody objecting to /var/layman ? I like that. it seems that /var/layman is the only location nobody has objected to, yet. i plan to go with that atm. /var/lib/layman is my second favorite. again, any objections? sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: it seems that  /var/layman is the only location nobody has objected to, yet.  i plan to go with that atm.  /var/lib/layman is my second favorite. again, any objections? Why not make it a configuration option,

[gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Jörg Schaible
dev-ran...@mail.ru wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: 2010/1/16 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org: layman cache is nfs distributable. Also it's good idea to have it close to PORTDIR. Thus I'd like to keep it somewhere at /usr. I'd like both to be under /var/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/16/10 19:31, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: Why not make it a configuration option, with the default as /var/layman (or whatever you want)? It is configurable already (see /etc/layman/layman.cfg) #--- # Defines the directory where

[gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
lör 2010-01-16 klockan 19:16 +0100 skrev Sebastian Pipping: On 01/16/10 05:39, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Friday 15 January 2010 20:55:18 Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 01/16/10 02:45, Mike Frysinger wrote: the better idea though would be to split your stuff along the proper lines. cache

[gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
lör 2010-01-16 klockan 19:31 +0100 skrev Jörg Schaible: dev-ran...@mail.ru wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: 2010/1/16 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org: layman cache is nfs distributable. Also it's good idea to have it close to PORTDIR. Thus I'd like to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Michael Higgins
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:57:39 +0100 Peter Hjalmarsson x...@rymdraket.net wrote: lör 2010-01-16 klockan 19:31 +0100 skrev Jörg Schaible: dev-ran...@mail.ru wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 01:57:38PM +0100, Ben de Groot wrote: 2010/1/16 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org: layman cache is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Mike Frysinger dixit (2010-01-15, 20:45): On Friday 15 January 2010 20:24:38 Sebastian Pipping wrote: On 01/16/10 00:33, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: - From the alternatives, /var/lib/layman doesn't sound right. If /var/cache/layman doesn't work, what about /var/spool/layman

Re: [gentoo-dev] [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Ben de Groot dixit (2010-01-16, 00:41): 2010/1/15 Dawid Węgliński c...@gentoo.org: On Friday 15 January 2010 20:44:43 Alex Legler wrote:   /var/lib/layman do well? +1 -1, /usr/local/layman? /usr/local/ is a location the system should avoid. Somewhere in /var/ seems to be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 01/16/10 23:46, Benedikt Böhm wrote: One thing all you /usr naggers forget is, that /var cannot be shared read-only via nfs (or bind mounts in case of virtual servers). Why is that? Please tell more. Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Benedikt Böhm
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote: Yes, PORTDIR default location under /usr was a totally stupid thing. Please don't repeat it... One thing all you /usr naggers forget is, that /var cannot be shared read-only via nfs (or bind mounts in case of virtual

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] layman storage location (again)

2010-01-16 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 16 January 2010 17:46:08 Benedikt Böhm wrote: On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Michael Higgins li...@evolone.org wrote: Yes, PORTDIR default location under /usr was a totally stupid thing. Please don't repeat it... One thing all you /usr naggers forget is, that /var cannot be