Re: [gentoo-dev] Over using preserve_old_lib, don't do that

2010-07-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/02/2010 08:54 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 7/2/10 7:51 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: It's a hack, not a solution Should we make repoman issue a warning about it? It already warns about using make -j1 as a workaround for upstream issues. The new warning could be on the same level

Re: [gentoo-dev] Over using preserve_old_lib, don't do that

2010-07-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 07/02/2010 09:03 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 07/02/2010 08:54 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 7/2/10 7:51 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: It's a hack, not a solution Should we make repoman issue a warning about it? It already warns about using make -j1 as a workaround for upstream issues.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] debug USE flag misuse

2010-07-02 Thread Vaeth
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: If your build system sets -ffast-math or -fstrict-aliasing then the user can disable this by setting -fno-fast-math or -fno-strict-aliasing in their CFLAGS. Just because some flags have counter-flags by accident, this does not hold for all flags. It is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-07-02 Thread Arun Raghavan
Hey Sebastian, On 30 June 2010 06:15, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: Arun, [...] And another one for More direct democracy: a) How would you decide what questions go up for public vote and which ones stay with the council? Good question!  I think a few voices from developers

[gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of the bonsaikitten

2010-07-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
With only a few hours left to vote y'all might be wondering What happened to Patrick's manifesto? Short version - I'm not in the mood to write long speeches about things I won't manage to do. We have lots of technical issues to discuss and decide on (like the recent as-needed discussion, again,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-07-02 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Arun, On 07/02/10 16:23, Arun Raghavan wrote: The problem is not noise. The problem is that an issue that needs to be escalated to Devrel could not be resolved by the involved developers or the people who were present at the time. Moreover, there are strong emotions from the devs (and often

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council manifesto of sping

2010-07-02 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote: I think we're mixing up a few things by now: - What cases should be handled in public, which shouldn't - Does DevRel work effectively or not - The special case of banning people All I want to say right here is that: -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Over using preserve_old_lib, don't do that

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, July 02, 2010 01:51:25 Samuli Suominen wrote: I've recently stumbled upon several packages unnecessarily using old preserve_old_lib feature from eutils.eclass, namely: libgnomekbd libproxy And then users hit issues like this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326517#c5

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] debug USE flag misuse

2010-07-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:29:44 +0200 (CEST) Vaeth va...@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de wrote: Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: If your build system sets -ffast-math or -fstrict-aliasing then the user can disable this by setting -fno-fast-math or -fno-strict-aliasing in their CFLAGS.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] debug USE flag misuse

2010-07-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, July 02, 2010 16:39:57 Ryan Hill wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 15:29:44 +0200 (CEST) Vaeth wrote: Ryan Hill wrote: If your build system sets -ffast-math or -fstrict-aliasing then the user can disable this by setting -fno-fast-math or -fno-strict-aliasing in their CFLAGS.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Council 2010/2011 - Voting - Reminder

2010-07-02 Thread Roy Bamford
On 2010.06.19 20:56, Roy Bamford wrote: Team, Everything is in place to allow voting in the above election commence as planned on June 20th at 00:00:00 UTC. The polls will remain open until July 3rd 23:59:59 UTC. [snip] Thats about 25 hours from now ... and so far, the turnout is only

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/pedro: metadata.xml ChangeLog pedro-1.5.ebuild

2010-07-02 Thread Jeremy Olexa
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:59:34 + (UTC), Keri Harris (keri) k...@gentoo.org wrote: Index: pedro-1.5.ebuild === # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-misc/pedro: metadata.xml ChangeLog pedro-1.5.ebuild

2010-07-02 Thread Keri Harris
On Saturday 03 July 2010 12:33:17 Jeremy Olexa wrote: On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:59:34 + (UTC), Keri Harris (keri) k...@gentoo.org wrote: Index: pedro-1.5.ebuild === # Copyright 1999-2010 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed