[gentoo-dev] Re: FOSDEM 2011
* Markus Duft markus.d...@salomon.at: markus.d...@salomon.at wrote: booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... right now i'm _very_ busy with work (and life ;)), thus i cannot manage all this anymore (booth application, flyers, posters, cds, etc. Also a The Call for Stands is open until 2010-12-06. -- Regards Torsten
[gentoo-dev] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring
Hi, :-) I'm a member of the LibreOffice community. LibreOffice (LibO) is the office suite project of The Document Foundation (TDF), the community-driven organization that recently forked from the Oracle-managed OpenOffice.org project. TDF/LibO is currently working on its branding and on its artwork for the LibreOffice distribution. We are currently very short of GRAPHIC ARTISTS. Notably, right now, we urgently need creative talent to help us design artwork for our websites. We need to develop a logo, and - hopefully - a MASCOT along the lines of Linux's Tux, to act as a living ambassador that achieves lasting recognition of our brand and products in people's minds. But we also need talent to work on icon sets and other artwork on an ongoing basis. A number of Linux distributions have announced their intention to ship LibreOffice with their future releases. We know that they frequently do re-branding work to integrate their chosen office suite in lines with their project's thinking. So we are keen to involve you in our project branding and development, so that we ship releases that better fit your needs. LibreOffice and The Document Foundation could also benefit from MENTORING and from close and ongoing involvement from established Linux projects, especially in these early days when we are developing our infrastructure and organization. Like you, we passionately value and believe in Free Open Source software (FOSS). We very much ask you to get involved in our project and influence our development. We seek your comments and advice and contributions. For this, below you will find a number of links as a starting point: Useful links === LibreOffice marketing mailing list: marketing+subscr...@libreoffice.org The Document Foundation general discussions mailing list: discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org LibreOffice developers mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice TDF steering committee discussions mailing list: steering-discuss+subscr...@documentfoundation.org LibreOffice user support mailing list: users+subscr...@libreoffice.org Our Nabble gateway for easy mailing list browsing: http://www.documentfoundation.org/nabble/ The Document Foundation contacts page: http://www.documentfoundation.org/contact/ Mail address distributing to all TDF press and media contacts: i...@documentfoundation.org LibreOffice dedicated IRC channel: #libreoffice at irc.freenode.net TDF dedicated IRC channel: #documentfoundation at irc.freenode.net Follow TDF via @docufoundation on Twitter: http://twitter.com/docufoundation Follow TDF via @docufoundation on identi.ca: http://identi.ca/docufoundation Visit the TDF website: http://www.documentfoundation.org Pages showing the project's work in progress = http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Ideas Plus, of course, if necessary, you can contact me, too, at the address from which this mail was sent, or via this mailing list. Thank you for your time reading this message. Thank you, also, for your own valuable work in bringing the world Open Source software. David Nelson P.S. Please note that this advocacy is a personal initiative, and is *not* in any way official communication by TDF.
Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for restructuring of hardened profiles.
On 11/10/2010 05:44 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: On 11/10/2010 04:42 PM, Matthew Summers wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Matthew Summers quantumsumm...@gentoo.orgwrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.orgwrote: On 11/10/2010 10:29 AM, Petteri Räty wrote: On 11/10/2010 02:42 PM, Peter Volkov wrote: В Втр, 09/11/2010 в 18:20 -0500, Anthony G. Basile пишет: Title: Restructuring of Hardened profiles [...] Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux Is it possible to restrict this news item to be shown on affected profiles only? Yeah it shouldn't show up in new installs that are already using the migrated profiles. Regards, Petteri I'm not sure how to address this concern. I reread GLEP-42 and all I see is Display-If-Installed: eg. net-www/apache Display-If-Keyword: eg. amd64 Display-If-Profile: eg linux/hardened If someone knows how, I'll be happy to address this concern. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer I suspect it should be the following. Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib . . . etc. Now, I have no clear indication that Display-If-Profile can be used more than once or if it accepts an expression that would allow us to catch both the multilib and no-multilib examples, as well as the x86 profile, etc. Cheers, -- Matthew W. Summers So, I re-read GLEP 42 and this snippet makes it clear that we will need one Display-If-Profile header element for each profile we are migrating. The algorithm used to determine whether a news item is 'relevant' is as follows: For each Display-If- header type which occurs at least once: The news item is not relevant if none of the headers of this type are successfully matched. Otherwise the news item is relevant. Regards The list of effected profiles is fairly long - cd /usr/portage/profiles/hardened/linux/ find . -type d | grep 10.0 ./ia64/10.0 ./ia64/10.0/server ./ia64/10.0/desktop ./ia64/10.0/developer ./x86/10.0 ./x86/10.0/server ./x86/10.0/no-nptl ./x86/10.0/desktop ./x86/10.0/developer ./amd64/10.0 ./amd64/10.0/server ./amd64/10.0/desktop ./amd64/10.0/no-multilib ./amd64/10.0/developer ./powerpc/ppc32/10.0 ./powerpc/ppc32/10.0/server ./powerpc/ppc32/10.0/desktop ./powerpc/ppc32/10.0/developer ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0 ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/server ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/desktop ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/32bit-userland ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/32bit-userland/server ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/32bit-userland/desktop ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/32bit-userland/developer ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/64bit-userland ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/64bit-userland/server ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/64bit-userland/desktop ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/64bit-userland/developer ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0/developer If this can be reduced by removing the subprofiles then it reduces to ./ia64/10.0 ./x86/10.0 ./amd64/10.0 ./powerpc/ppc32/10.0 ./powerpc/ppc64/10.0 If someone can assure me it will work, change my current Display-If-Profile to Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/ia64/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/x86/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc32/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc64/10.0 Okay, after speaking to ssuominen who had a similar situation, you have to spell out the entire profile. So here is the latest version of the news item. There are lots of Display-If-Profile lines, but it should do the trick. -- Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D. Gentoo Developer Title: Restructuring of Hardened profiles Author: Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org Author: Hardened Team harde...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2010-11-13 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/ia64/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/ia64/10.0/server Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/ia64/10.0/desktop Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/ia64/10.0/developer Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/x86/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/x86/10.0/server Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/x86/10.0/no-nptl Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/x86/10.0/desktop Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/x86/10.0/developer Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0/server Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0/no-multilib Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/amd64/10.0/developer Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc32/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc32/10.0/server Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc32/10.0/desktop Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc32/10.0/developer Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc64/10.0 Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc64/10.0/server Display-If-Profile: hardened/linux/powerpc/ppc64/10.0/desktop Display-If-Profile:
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: FOSDEM 2011
On 11/11/2010 09:13 AM, Torsten Veller wrote: * Markus Duft markus.d...@salomon.at: markus.d...@salomon.at wrote: booth registration is not yet open, i will have an eye on this too... right now i'm _very_ busy with work (and life ;)), thus i cannot manage all this anymore (booth application, flyers, posters, cds, etc. Also a The Call for Stands is open until 2010-12-06. anybody mind to handle this? (do we want a stand? if yes, apply for it, manage banners, posters, dvds, etc, etc) i'll be really busy for the rest of this year... markus
[gentoo-dev] Restabilizing MIPS
Hi, I'd like to begin stabilizing packages on MIPS. I've gotten acks from Redhatter, leio, and r0bertz, and Kumba doesn't really care. What's the best method to go about doing this? Stabilize the system packages, then remove ~mips from ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in the profiles? Should we target package versions that aren't stabilized on other architectures yet, so that we'll have an extended testing period before they'll come up for stabilization? That is, can I plan to make gcc-4.5.1 or something the first restabilized version of gcc, go ahead and begin testing it, and be ready for stabilization when toolchain requests it? Thanks, and any advice is appreciated. :) Matt
Re: [gentoo-dev] Restabilizing MIPS
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:00:00PM -0500, Matt Turner wrote: I'd like to begin stabilizing packages on MIPS. I've gotten acks from Redhatter, leio, and r0bertz, and Kumba doesn't really care. Out of interest, what MIPS hardware do you have? -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee Infrastructure Lead E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85 pgpgIabPcmMbT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Restabilizing MIPS
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:00:00PM -0500, Matt Turner wrote: Hi, I'd like to begin stabilizing packages on MIPS. I've gotten acks from Redhatter, leio, and r0bertz, and Kumba doesn't really care. What's the best method to go about doing this? Stabilize the system packages, then remove ~mips from ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in the profiles? I'd be waiting until you can do an `emerge system` and come up with a contemporary build without, before dropping ~mips from the profile. At the moment, I think if you were to try it now, you'd be told it can't be done because of packages being masked by unstable keywords. Should we target package versions that aren't stabilized on other architectures yet, so that we'll have an extended testing period before they'll come up for stabilization? That is, can I plan to make gcc-4.5.1 or something the first restabilized version of gcc, go ahead and begin testing it, and be ready for stabilization when toolchain requests it? I'd certainly aim for the highest available version... as by the time we get ready to keyword it, it'll be the highest stable version, perhaps one version behind. I've been experimenting with KDE 4.5.3 ... or rather, it was 4.5.0 and in package.mask when I started... then I hit issues with qt-webkit that seem to be binutils related. Now that I've got that sorted, I've only now just got KDE built and installed... and it looks as if I'll be doing rebuilds of it to try and chase out some bugs. That said, don't focus all your attention on the bleeding edge, be prepared to take a step back. At my old workplace, I recall porting kernel git HEAD (2.6.35-rc? at the time) to an ARM platform and experiencing various issues... I moved back to 2.6.34 and the problems disappeared. I'd sooner be one version back and stable, than bleeding edge and constantly falling over. Regards, -- Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL) .'''. Gentoo Linux/MIPS Cobalt and Docs Developer '.'` : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'.' http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter :.' I haven't lost my mind... ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Restabilizing MIPS
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 06:00:00PM -0500, Matt Turner wrote: I'd like to begin stabilizing packages on MIPS. I've gotten acks from Redhatter, leio, and r0bertz, and Kumba doesn't really care. Out of interest, what MIPS hardware do you have? I have a Broadcom BCM91250a with a dual-core 800 MHz SiByte CPU and a 200 MHz O2 with 1 GB RAM. See http://mattst88.com/computers/bcm91250a/ . I need to post some pictures, but that'll have to be for later. Matt
Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:40:03PM +0800, David Nelson wrote: A number of Linux distributions have announced their intention to ship LibreOffice with their future releases. We know that they frequently do re-branding work to integrate their chosen office suite in lines with their project's thinking. So we are keen to involve you in our project branding and development, so that we ship releases that better fit your needs. Do we even brand OpenOffice? I can't spot the difference between the self-built OpenOffice.org binary I have, and the official Sun binary I had previously. My concern with LibreOffice would be more to do with compiling it... it'd be a nice package to have on the Yeeloong, but AFAIK it needs Java..? Something I've been trying to bootstrap unsuccessfully for the best part of two years now. (gcj-jdk is a long way from usable, and there's a chicken-egg issue with icedtea6.) It also needs _lots_ of RAM and disk space ... not a plentiful resource on MIPS. -- Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL) .'''. Gentoo Linux/MIPS Cobalt and Docs Developer '.'` : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'.' http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter :.' I haven't lost my mind... ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
[gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: Should we target package versions that aren't stabilized on other architectures yet, so that we'll have an extended testing period before they'll come up for stabilization? That is, can I plan to make gcc-4.5.1 or something the first restabilized version of gcc, go ahead and begin testing it, and be ready for stabilization when toolchain requests it? I'd work on getting it ~mips before you think about stabilizing. ;) Last report I got it doesn't build. What's your target hardware for stabilization? Are we still focusing on SGI stuff or moving on to newer platforms? -- fonts, gcc-porting, it makes no sense how it makes no sense toolchain, wxwidgets but i'll take it free anytime @ gentoo.orgEFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F9A4 0662 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: Should we target package versions that aren't stabilized on other architectures yet, so that we'll have an extended testing period before they'll come up for stabilization? That is, can I plan to make gcc-4.5.1 or something the first restabilized version of gcc, go ahead and begin testing it, and be ready for stabilization when toolchain requests it? I'd work on getting it ~mips before you think about stabilizing. ;) Last report I got it doesn't build. I've been using gcc-4.5.1 for the last two weeks or so. :) Should I add a ~mips keyword? What's your target hardware for stabilization? Are we still focusing on SGI stuff or moving on to newer platforms? SGI stuff is going to become less and less interesting, but it's still the most common MIPS hardware Gentoo users have [1]. STMicroelectronics MIPS systems (Lemote, Gdium, etc) are becoming more common, and we should definitely do a better job supporting them. (I should mention that I've been loaned a Yeelong by Daniel Clark, of freedomincluded.com, to fix up the siliconmotion driver.) I think we can reasonably support both. The Broadcom board I have can with the switch of a jumper operate in big or little-endian mode, so I can use it for both. Matt [1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-mips/msg_65e25b7dae79f7b897ed59199919a2a2.xml
Re: [gentoo-dev] LibreOffice project: request for contributors and mentoring
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Stuart Longland redhat...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:40:03PM +0800, David Nelson wrote: A number of Linux distributions have announced their intention to ship LibreOffice with their future releases. We know that they frequently do re-branding work to integrate their chosen office suite in lines with their project's thinking. So we are keen to involve you in our project branding and development, so that we ship releases that better fit your needs. Do we even brand OpenOffice? I can't spot the difference between the self-built OpenOffice.org binary I have, and the official Sun binary I had previously. My concern with LibreOffice would be more to do with compiling it... it'd be a nice package to have on the Yeeloong, but AFAIK it needs Java..? Something I've been trying to bootstrap unsuccessfully for the best part of two years now. (gcj-jdk is a long way from usable, and there's a chicken-egg issue with icedtea6.) It also needs _lots_ of RAM and disk space ... not a plentiful resource on MIPS. gNewSense, which came installed on the Yeelong I have, has OpenJDK and OpenOffice, so it's certainly possible. Matt
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:37:51PM -0500, Matt Turner wrote: On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 18:00:00 -0500 Matt Turner matts...@gentoo.org wrote: Should we target package versions that aren't stabilized on other architectures yet, so that we'll have an extended testing period before they'll come up for stabilization? That is, can I plan to make gcc-4.5.1 or something the first restabilized version of gcc, go ahead and begin testing it, and be ready for stabilization when toolchain requests it? I'd work on getting it ~mips before you think about stabilizing. ;) Last report I got it doesn't build. I've been using gcc-4.5.1 for the last two weeks or so. :) Should I add a ~mips keyword? I'll probably be looking at it for the next release then. I fully intend to do a rebuild of the o32 stages when binutils-2.21 hits Gentoo's tree as it fixes a few MIPS issues. What's your target hardware for stabilization? Are we still focusing on SGI stuff or moving on to newer platforms? SGI stuff is going to become less and less interesting, but it's still the most common MIPS hardware Gentoo users have [1]. One thing to factor in is the availability of parts for these systems. As the systems break down, we can expect that market to reduce in size. That said, there's more than just SGI systems on the big-endian side. STMicroelectronics MIPS systems (Lemote, Gdium, etc) are becoming more common, and we should definitely do a better job supporting them. (I should mention that I've been loaned a Yeelong by Daniel Clark, of freedomincluded.com, to fix up the siliconmotion driver.) Interesting... I've found Zhang Le's overlay includes a quite workable siliconmotion driver which runs fine on my Yeeloong. The only catch is that one must compile it with -march=loongson2f in CFLAGS... -mips3 (my preference) won't do. Out of interest... did you get around to those n32 stages at all? I'd like to get some of my old SGI kit up and going, some of them will need a complete reinstall... so I may as well do that using n32 from the outset. My O2 can remain o32 for now since it was the one still standing after all this time. The others, the userland is broken/stale to the point of uselessness. Regards, -- Stuart Longland (aka Redhatter, VK4MSL) .'''. Gentoo Linux/MIPS Cobalt and Docs Developer '.'` : . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .'.' http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter :.' I haven't lost my mind... ...it's backed up on a tape somewhere.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Restabilizing MIPS
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Stuart Longland redhat...@gentoo.org wrote: STMicroelectronics MIPS systems (Lemote, Gdium, etc) are becoming more common, and we should definitely do a better job supporting them. (I should mention that I've been loaned a Yeelong by Daniel Clark, of freedomincluded.com, to fix up the siliconmotion driver.) Interesting... I've found Zhang Le's overlay includes a quite workable siliconmotion driver which runs fine on my Yeeloong. The only catch is that one must compile it with -march=loongson2f in CFLAGS... -mips3 (my preference) won't do. The main purpose of my project here is to write a kernel modesetting driver. Apparently lots of FSF fanatics use Yeelongs entirely from the terminal, so the potential for faster console scrolling speed is somewhat appealing to them. ;) Out of interest... did you get around to those n32 stages at all? I'd like to get some of my old SGI kit up and going, some of them will need a complete reinstall... so I may as well do that using n32 from the outset. My O2 can remain o32 for now since it was the one still standing after all this time. The others, the userland is broken/stale to the point of uselessness. I tried again last week to make n32 stages, but have had a terrible time with catalyst. The main problem I run into is that I can't get catalyst to acknowledge any package.keywords files (which as I understand might be by design), so I'm unable to put together a stage from the versions I'd like to stabilize. Are your recent o32 stages straight-up ~mips? Can you post your spec files somewhere? Matt
