Re: [gentoo-dev] Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 June 2011 00:57, Nathan Phillip Brink wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 08:57:47PM -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote: >> >> media >> video >> kde >> editors >> > I'm strongly of the mind that by making the tag system arbitrarily flat, you might be prematurely limiting yourself, as well as risking a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 June 2011 00:51, Nathan Phillip Brink wrote: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:20:40PM -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote: >> I bring this up because there are several packages with the same name >> and different qualification.  Obviously, they'll have different tags >> because they're not the same thing, bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please migrate to git-2.eclass

2011-06-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:35:33 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > git-2.eclass is in the tree for a while now, and there's still awful > lot of packages using old & deprecated git.eclass. Ah, and sorry, I forgot to mention bug 372909 [1]. This bug can be used to track the packages updated to use git-2.ec

[gentoo-dev] Please migrate to git-2.eclass

2011-06-24 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, git-2.eclass is in the tree for a while now, and there's still awful lot of packages using old & deprecated git.eclass. Why migrate? - git-2 supports fallback SRC_URIs -- you can set it to prefer git:// but fallback to http:// if git is unreachable (e.g. due to firewall), - git-2 is clea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/linux-logo: linux-logo-5.11.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-06-24 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 24/06/2011 в 18:22 +0200, Jeroen Roovers пишет: > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:29:51 +0400 > Peter Volkov wrote: > > > > src_prepare() { > > > echo "./logos/gentoo.logo" >> logo_config > > > echo "./logos/gentoo2.logo" >> logo_config > > > echo "./logos/banner-simplified.logo" >> logo_conf

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-misc/linux-logo: linux-logo-5.11.ebuild ChangeLog

2011-06-24 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 10:29:51 +0400 Peter Volkov wrote: > > src_prepare() { > > echo "./logos/gentoo.logo" >> logo_config > > echo "./logos/gentoo2.logo" >> logo_config > > echo "./logos/banner-simplified.logo" >> logo_config > > echo "./logos/banner.logo" >> logo_config > > ec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Nathan Phillip Brink
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 08:57:47PM -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote: > Tags are basically keywords you can use to describe packages, allowing > you to easily search and explore your options based on what the > packages actually does (if we want to get technical, anything that > identifies a package is a sort

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Nathan Phillip Brink
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:20:40PM -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote: > I bring this up because there are several packages with the same name > and different qualification. Obviously, they'll have different tags > because they're not the same thing, but neither should they share the > same directory. So the

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the use of bash-completion use flag

2011-06-24 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2011, Michał Górny wrote: > There's no reason that a dozen of packages PDEPENDs on > bash-completion. If one decides not to use bash-completion any > longer, I don't see a reason to rebuild all those packages just to > get rid of one PDEPEND (and a single file). The question

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 June 2011 20:14, Wyatt Epp wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 02:51, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> If you abolish categories in favour of tags, but tags don't uniquely >> identify a package, how do you uniquely identify a package? >> >> Remember that your solution has to work with overlays and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 02:51, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > If you abolish categories in favour of tags, but tags don't uniquely > identify a package, how do you uniquely identify a package? > > Remember that your solution has to work with overlays and with tags > being changed after a package is inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-24 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/6/24 Ciaran McCreesh : > On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:52:03 +0200 > Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: >> You might not like it, but Gentoo categories have always been >> directories, not words into metadata.xml. > > So tags are in some way related to categories then? For me, tags would be an abstra

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:52:03 +0200 Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: > You might not like it, but Gentoo categories have always been > directories, not words into metadata.xml. So tags are in some way related to categories then? -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: split up media-sound/ category

2011-06-24 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
2011/6/24 Zac Medico : > On 06/22/2011 11:15 PM, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: >> Symlinks are clean, and portage has >> always been file-oriented so I see no problem with using them for >> this. All we need is to deference the symlink to find the real name of >> the package and put it in world

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the use of bash-completion use flag

2011-06-24 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 6/24/11 9:07 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > For the additional dependency, I'd put it in some common ebuild (like > bash, or something without compiled binaries -- even better) and I'd > put the flag there. > > There's no reason that a dozen of packages PDEPENDs on bash-completion. > If one decides

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Wyatt Epp wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: >> First: how do tags relate to categories? Are they independent, a >> refinement or a replacement? >> > I would suggest they be a replacement because categories are just an > overly limited subset o

Re: [gentoo-dev] On the use of bash-completion use flag

2011-06-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:05:59 +0200 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote: > > >> --- Comment #2 from Gilles Dartiguelongue > >> 2011-06-21 09:35:59 UTC --- Afaik, the bash-completion eclass adds > >> the use flag only to make sure the user has bash-comple