Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Corentin Chary
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep     , Corentin Chary wrote: Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It should not take a lot of time, but my ebuilds skills are probably not good enought to do that. Sounds like

Re: [gentoo-dev] git-2: a bunch of patches to review

2011-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:46:10 +0200 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org wrote: 0001 - i had reason to put local definitions on the top, it is way more readable to see right away what local vars function has, so please stick to it. 0007 - I placed it into the conditionals to be clear what is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/21/11 11:57, Corentin Chary wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep , Corentin Chary wrote: Could someone write ebuilds for euscan and euscanwww ? It should not take a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-09-21 Thread Corentin Chary
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/21/11 11:57, Corentin Chary wrote: On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10:00 Tue 20 Sep     , Corentin Chary wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 14:20 Tue 20 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:16:46PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: OK, so the implication of what you're saying is that everything in eutils.eclass, base.eclass, toolchain-funcs.eclass, flag-o-matic.eclass, versionator.eclass, multilib.eclass,

Re: [gentoo-dev] git-2: a bunch of patches to review

2011-09-21 Thread Michał Górny
Attaching fixed version of the last two patches, and a complete eclass for convenience. On Tue, 20 Sep 2011 22:32:52 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: 10 -- tries to migrate git.eclass clones to git-2.eclass (#383761). Fixed invalid output (PVR - PF). 11 -- removes old git.eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Making backwards-incompatible tree changes | a solution for GLEP 55's problem

2011-09-21 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 21-09-2011 a las 04:00 +, Duncan escribió: Patrick Lauer posted on Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:00:38 +0200 as excerpted: On 09/20/11 15:09, Pacho Ramos wrote: What do you guys think? I haven't ever tried it but, what would occur if that people with really updated systems simply

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
2011/9/20 Tomáš Chvátal scarab...@gentoo.org: The issue here is that if some part of the tree looses lots of its maintainers we as devs usually manage to shape it up enough for us in testing but nobody ever bothers to wait that 30 days and open stablereq. An issue your suggestion doesn't

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:46:38 -0400 as excerpted: An issue your suggestion doesn't address is when packages don't even stick around 30 days/etc. I know I've seen many packages where there is an ancient stable version that is never touched, and a much newer ~arch version

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Talking about...  Just today I was reading that the firefox folks are debating shortening the current 6-week cycle to 5-weeks or less. Upstream issues are a whole different kettle of fish, but obviously still cause problems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 10:30 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I uploaded my script for finding reverse dependencies here: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/arch-tools.git;a=summary app-portage/tatt does that for some time already. It reads the list from the tinderbox website and then uses eix

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi! On 20:42 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Markos Chandras wrote: On 09/19/11 20:30, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: I uploaded my script for finding reverse dependencies here: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/arch-tools.git;a=summary Advantages over existing solutions (browsing to websites

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Donnie Berkholz dberkh...@gentoo.org wrote: On 14:20 Tue 20 Sep     , Brian Harring wrote: On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:16:46PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: OK, so the implication of what you're saying is that everything in eutils.eclass, base.eclass,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 09:10 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:39:32 -0400 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote: '$(use_enable static-libs static)' themselves.

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Duncan
Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:10:27 -0400 as excerpted: Plus at least with firefox the old versions don't suddenly stop working/etc, assuming they still get upstream security notices. That's the thing. AFAIK, they don't. FF4 is still getting them I believe, due to longer term

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 12:10 Wed 21 Sep 2011, Rich Freeman wrote: Maybe we need to rethink the definition of stable in these situations. I think it still doesn't hurt to have some kind of QA cycle internally for something like firefox. Plus at least with firefox the old versions don't suddenly stop working/etc,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please don't use IUSE=static-libs unless really necessary

2011-09-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday, September 21, 2011 12:36:57 Thomas Kahle wrote: On 09:10 Mon 19 Sep 2011, Michał Górny wrote: On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 18:39:32 -0400 Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday, September 18, 2011 18:16:30 Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:25 AM, Michał Górny wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org wrote: I agree that these new 'channel' concepts are not very compatible with out stable/testing tree model and security stabilizations.  Every single stabilization (except the first) of www-client/chromium for instance is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org wrote: Let's have a page in our docs where everybody can explain his or her tool.  Where in the hierarchy should the page be?  How about: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/arch-testing Please! And the documentation should

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/21/11 20:40, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Thomas Kahle to...@gentoo.org wrote: Let's have a page in our docs where everybody can explain his or her tool. Where in the hierarchy should the page be? How about:

Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper

2011-09-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
since there's been no new feedback in a while, i'll add this to eutils.eclass in a while: usex() { use $1 echo ${2-yes}$4 || echo ${3-no}$5 ; } then once it hits the PMS, i'll put EAPI wrapping around it. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] How do we handle stabilisations of not-exactly-maintained packages

2011-09-21 Thread Thomas Kahle
On 13:37 Wed 21 Sep 2011, Rich Freeman wrote: I LIKE the contribution of linux distros, and I don't really want to see a move towards the Windows world where I have 10 different auto-updaters running (or worse - no auto-update and I'm just stuck with manual checks). I also don't like every

Re: [gentoo-dev] finding reverse dependencies for arch testing (and other purposes)

2011-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: It is a bit hard to document a generic testing process. Each package has different requirements. We tried to document a generic workflow in amd64 AT[1] and in the AT quiz as well. Sure, and that's pretty much the