[gentoo-dev] bugs-web[34].gentoo.org launched

2011-10-13 Thread Robin H. Johnson
Hi all, Webnodes #3 and #4 have been launched for Bugzilla. They'll ultimately replace nodes #1 and #2, but meanwhile all 4 nodes are running. The new DB nodes aren't 100% ready yet. If you to specifically reach a node instead of the load balancer: https://bugs-web{1,2,3,4}.gentoo.org/ (and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Mike Frysinger schrieb: by splitting my reply, you changed the meaning. having qutecom in the tree with a depend on versions that i'm now removing breaks the depgraph. The depgraph is broken after the old versions are removed, not before. which is what i said So qutecom is not broken and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as linux-headers-2.6.38 is in the tree. Dependencies using , =, =, ~ or =* are broken, except in certain special situations inside ||. -- Ciaran

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as linux-headers-2.6.38 is in the tree. Dependencies using , =, =, ~ or =* are broken, except in certain special

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: Most of the net-zope category and related packages

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Gilbert
Per previous discussion, Arfrever will be maintaining these packages outside of the main tree. This entry was committed just under a month ago, but it seems the announcement was not sent at that time. # Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org (15 Sep 2011) # Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 18:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:00:23 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Then please continue with udev in package.mask and kindly stop trying to impose your workflow on the rest of the world. Isn't the point here that the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 00:40 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Hi all Recently, there was a firestorm on the gentoo-user list over the idea that udev would eventually require /usr to be on the same physical parition as /, or else use initramfs, which is its own can of worms. I'm not a programmer,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:13:11 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as linux-headers-2.6.38 is in the tree.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: So, in your opinion, if we have 'foo' and 'libfoo' which are strictly version-bound, we can't allow users to install older versions? Obviously the real issue is when libfoo is libpng or openssl or whatever. It almost makes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Rich Freeman
2011/10/13 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org: We're imposing our deep integration because it's the only way to make a compelling platform that just works, forcing users to tell the computer something the computer already knows is just plain lazy and stupid. I'd also look at it another way. It

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 11:17:07 Olivier Crête wrote: That said, we, the GNOME upstream, think that having a separate /usr is a completely stupid idea. considering GNOME's track record wrt what they think is a good idea in the UI land, i'm not sure this statement is terribly compelling

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 13 October 2011 20:58, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: 2011/10/13 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org: We're imposing our deep integration because it's the only way to make a compelling platform that just works, forcing users to tell the computer something the computer already knows is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly haven't been seen any effort to actually solve the problem within the existing framework. For example, if someone cares enough, why not write a wrapper script to track

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:14:31 -0400 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 18:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:00:23 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Then please continue with udev in package.mask and kindly stop trying to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/13/2011 06:09 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Samuli Suominen schrieb: you're right. sorry. that came out too harsh. lets rephrase this as: No offense taken :) This /topic should be in the end-quiz, and mentioned in the mentoring guide to cover basis as part of the KEYWORDS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: Merely saying if we had some documentation snippet, or an end-quiz question for this, QA could more easily/faster revoke access if someone were to do this intentionally in tree. This could be minor motivation for me

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 13:52:37 -0400 Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: While slotting libraries is often an option, that gets a lot messier when you're talking about things like header files. You can make slots mutually blocking if you do it carefully. It does get a bit horrible without :=

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Sebastian Luther
Am 13.10.2011 15:13, schrieb Ciaran McCreesh: On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:23:07 +0200 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org wrote: So qutecom is not broken and needs not be removed as long as linux-headers-2.6.38 is in the tree. Dependencies using , =, =, ~ or =* are broken, except in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/13/2011 08:02 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly haven't been seen any effort to actually solve the problem within the existing framework. For example, if someone cares

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly haven't been seen any effort to actually solve the problem within the existing framework. For

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly haven't been

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 14:55:45 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2011 12:30:06 Arun Raghavan wrote: While I've seen a lot of whining about this whole issue, I certainly haven't been seen any effort to actually

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Build dependencies and upgrades.

2011-10-13 Thread Zac Medico
On 10/12/2011 08:20 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Wednesday 12 October 2011 11:09:56 Zac Medico wrote: How about if we add a `emerge --upgrade` target that is analogous to `apt-get upgrade`? isn't that already done with @installed ? `emerge --upgrade @installed` At this time, @installed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in net-im/qutecom: metadata.xml ChangeLog qutecom-2.2_p20110210.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: This is something that I have been asking for all the time. If you think that what qutecom did should be illegal in Gentoo, then disallow it in policy or code. Drop that should be act, please. It looks as if you were still suggesting it was fine to do what qutecom

[gentoo-dev] rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Samuli Suominen
small news item for stable users. lets keep it simple... Title: Upgrade to libpng15 Author: Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2011-10-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: media-libs/libpng-1.5 After upgrading from libpng14 to libpng15

[gentoo-dev] new helper: econf_build

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
i've found myself a few times having to implement logic like so: CFLAGS=${BUILD_CFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ CXXFLAGS=${BUILD_CXXFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ CPPFLAGS=${BUILD_CPPFLAGS} \ LDFLAGS=${BUILD_LDFLAGS} \ CC=$(tc-getBUILD_CC) \ LD=$(tc-getBUILD_LD) \

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 14/10/2011 в 01:01 +0300, Samuli Suominen пишет: small news item for stable users. lets keep it simple... I think it's better to put all knowledge from forum post inside: 1. --keep-going option for revdep-rebuild. 2. better find: find /usr -name *.la -o -name *.pc -o -name *-config -exec

Re: [gentoo-dev] new helper: econf_build

2011-10-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: i've found myself a few times having to implement logic like so:        CFLAGS=${BUILD_CFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \        CXXFLAGS=${BUILD_CXXFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \        CPPFLAGS=${BUILD_CPPFLAGS} \        

Re: [gentoo-dev] new helper: econf_build

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 13 October 2011 21:41:02 Alec Warner wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: i've found myself a few times having to implement logic like so: CFLAGS=${BUILD_CFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \ CXXFLAGS=${BUILD_CXXFLAGS:--O1 -pipe} \

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:01:50 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: Title: Upgrade to libpng15 Author: Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2011-10-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: media-libs/libpng-1.5 After

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 01:01:50 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: Title: Upgrade to libpng15 Author: Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Posted: 2011-10-14 Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: media-libs/libpng-1.5 After

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-admin/chrpath: ChangeLog chrpath-0.13-r2.ebuild

2011-10-13 Thread Steven J Long
Samuli Suominen wrote: On 10/12/2011 06:30 AM, Steven J Long wrote: Michał Górny wrote: I don't think that passing multiple files to epatch actually improves readability. Simple example: # bug #123456, foo, bar epatch ${FILESDIR}/${P}-foo.patch # bug #234567, baz bazinga blah blah epatch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: libtool.eclass documentation

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday 30 September 2011 11:27:18 Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: Il giorno ven, 30/09/2011 alle 11.06 -0400, Mike Frysinger ha scritto: and azarah ;) Right, by the way have you (or anyone else) got any news of him? want to do a brain dump into the @DESCRIPTION part of libtool.eclass ?

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: news item for png15

2011-10-13 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:30:56 +0400 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote: 2. better find: find /usr -name *.la -o -name *.pc -o -name *-config -exec grep -H png14 {} \; find /usr -name *.la -o -name *.pc -o -name *-config \ -exec grep -H png14 {} + This is going to take less grep calls,