Re: [gentoo-dev] suspicious code in gnustep eclasses

2012-03-31 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 30-03-2012 13:00:33 +0200, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: This is from gnustep-base.eclass: egnustep_doc() { if [[ -d ./Documentation ]] ; then # Check documentation presence cd ${S}/Documentation if [[ -f ./[mM]akefile || -f ./GNUmakefile ]] ; then

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Fri, 30 Mar 2012 00:08:08 -0400 as excerpted: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:26:22PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote Though of course, if anybody has custom stuff in say, /usr/portage/local/ which they make by hand, nuking /usr/portage will make you *Very* unpopular.

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: location of portage tree

2012-03-31 Thread Graham Murray
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org writes: On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:26:22PM +1300, Kent Fredric wrote Though of course, if anybody has custom stuff in say, /usr/portage/local/ which they make by hand, nuking /usr/portage will make you *Very* unpopular.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:55:27 -0400 Richard Yao r...@cs.stonybrook.edu wrote: I think we should wait for Portage 2.2 to be stabilized before we declare Gentoo 2.0. @preserved-libs is enough of an advance that I think claiming 2.0 would be merited, if only for the attention it would draw at

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-31 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then, maybe the option would be to add a note to Gentoo Handbook explaining the cons of having portage tree on a standard partition and, then, put a link to a wiki page

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 08:56:22AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Do you really want to be advertising an awful hack that doesn't really work, is conceptually unsound and that breaks all kinds of things in subtle ways? Isn't that something all major distributions do? ;-) Sven

Re: [gentoo-dev] haskell-cabal.eclass suggestions

2012-03-31 Thread Sergei Trofimovich
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:59:10 +0200 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: echo 'import Distribution.Simple; main = defaultMainWithHooks defaultUserHooks' \ $setupdir/Setup.hs } I think there should be || die after echo, to catch out-of-disk-space problems. Ok :]

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-31 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 08:44:02AM +, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then, maybe the option would be to add a note to Gentoo Handbook explaining the cons of having

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sys-auth/tcb

2012-03-31 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
# Masked for removal, use sys-apps/hardened-shadow instead. # Needs too much special patching to work in Gentoo, # bugs: #371167, #408647. Removal in 60 days (31 May 2012). sys-auth/tcb signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production boxes for years without any issues :) ...and here we see the problem. You

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Brian Harring
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:52:53AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production boxes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 03/31/12 17:52, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production boxes for years without any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 03/31/2012 01:06 PM, Brian Harring wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:52:53AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexanderalex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already. I've

[gentoo-dev] Re: Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Duncan
Ciaran McCreesh posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:52:53 +0100 as excerpted: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable production

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Alex Alexander
On Mar 31, 2012 12:57 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already. I've been using it on stable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: (or hand me powers to remove people from ML :-) That sounds like a great idea. We could create a code of conduct, and then designate individuals to enforce it. Maybe we should call them proctors:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should ${T} be defined in pkg_prepare ?

2012-03-31 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Maciej Grela wrote: I've read the PMS and I haven't found information whether this variable is supposed to be set during pkg_prepare or not. There is no such stage. You mean pkg_pretend, I suppose? Therefore I ask, what is the proper behaviour here ? Is there

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 31-03-2012 a las 08:44 +, Sven Vermeulen escribió: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then, maybe the option would be to add a note to Gentoo Handbook explaining the cons of having portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-31 Thread Pacho Ramos
El sáb, 31-03-2012 a las 02:35 -0700, Brian Harring escribió: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 08:44:02AM +, Sven Vermeulen wrote: On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 10:06:18AM +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Looks then that there are several alternatives for portage tree, then, maybe the option would be to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works. Well that's interesting, because there are plenty of examples where it doesn't work, and all that it takes to disprove a theory is a single

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:06:36 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: The problem with preserved-libs (and emerge --jobs, for that matter) is that the design is I can think of a few ways where it might break, so I'll hard-code in special cases to handle those, but in general I can't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:00:00 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Good enough is the worst enemy of perfect. While we have s 98% solution that doesn't handle all corner cases you have a theoretical construct in your brain that might in theory cover 100% of all cases, but it's in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 03/31/12 23:01, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:00:00 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: Good enough is the worst enemy of perfect. While we have s 98% solution that doesn't handle all corner cases you have a theoretical construct in your brain that might in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:07:04 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: If you have a ten components, each of which 98% work, your overall system is 80% reliable. If you have twenty such components, it's down to 66% reliable. You're rapidly entering when it breaks, reinstall territory

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should ${T} be defined in pkg_prepare ?

2012-03-31 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Samstag, den 31.03.2012, 14:44 +0200 schrieb Ulrich Mueller: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Maciej Grela wrote: I've read the PMS and I haven't found information whether this variable is supposed to be set during pkg_prepare or not. There is no such stage. You mean pkg_pretend, I suppose?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Alex Alexander
On Mar 31, 2012 5:57 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I have proof it works. Well that's interesting, because there are plenty of examples

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:30:07 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: So you think Gentoo should advertise as the chances of it working are greater than 0%? I said better ... not repetitive trolls. If you cared about making things better you'd spend more time writing patches and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 03/31/12 23:38, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:30:07 +0800 Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: So you think Gentoo should advertise as the chances of it working are greater than 0%? I said better ... not repetitive trolls. If you cared about making things better you'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:39:21 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 31, 2012 5:57 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:08:29 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: No. I didn't say I think it works, I said I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/31/2012 04:49 AM, Duncan wrote: Ciaran McCreesh posted on Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:52:53 +0100 as excerpted: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread David Leverton
On 30 March 2012 14:25, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: Back to year 2009? http://www.gentoo.org/news/20091004-gentoo-10-years.xml That never stopped anyone before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X-2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:59:00 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: I wouldn't care if it weren't the fact your gentoo dev posts generally consist of xyz is stupid, as is the people behind it whether it be portage, udev, council, etc, take your pick. No, what I

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/31/2012 06:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: About the wiki page, I can only document reiserfs+tail usage as it's the one I use and I know, about other alternatives like using squashfs, loop mount... I cannot promise anything as I simply don't know how to set them. Squashfs is really simple to

[gentoo-dev] ESCM_OFFLINE/ EVCS_OFFLINE env variable policy

2012-03-31 Thread Alexander V Vershilov
Hello. It seems that in eclasses we have two differenct environment variables with same meaning ESCM and EVCS OFFLINE. Some of eclasses use one and some another: find . -type f | xargs grep -l EVCS_OFFLINE ./git-2.eclass ./bzr.eclass find . -type f | xargs grep -l ESCM_OFFLINE

Re: [gentoo-dev] ESCM_OFFLINE/ EVCS_OFFLINE env variable policy

2012-03-31 Thread Michał Górny
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:49:07 +0400 Alexander V Vershilov alexander.vershi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. It seems that in eclasses we have two differenct environment variables with same meaning ESCM and EVCS OFFLINE. Some of eclasses use one and some another: find . -type f | xargs grep -l

Re: [gentoo-dev] ESCM_OFFLINE/ EVCS_OFFLINE env variable policy

2012-03-31 Thread Justin
On 31.03.2012 20:49, Alexander V Vershilov wrote: Hello. It seems that in eclasses we have two differenct environment variables with same meaning ESCM and EVCS OFFLINE. Some of eclasses use one and some another: find . -type f | xargs grep -l EVCS_OFFLINE ./git-2.eclass ./bzr.eclass

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should ${T} be defined in pkg_prepare ?

2012-03-31 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Tiziano Müller wrote: The spec seems to be clear that T is legal in all phases, including pkg_pretend. Well, I'd say: there is no sane value you can assign to $T since you are not allowed to write anything anyway: pkg_pretend must not write to the filesystem.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should ${T} be defined in pkg_prepare ?

2012-03-31 Thread Francesco Riosa
2012/3/31 Tiziano Müller dev-z...@gentoo.org: Am Samstag, den 31.03.2012, 14:44 +0200 schrieb Ulrich Mueller: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Maciej Grela wrote: I've read the PMS and I haven't found information whether this variable is supposed to be set during pkg_prepare or not. There is no such

Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance)

2012-03-31 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/31/2012 10:52 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:44:03 +0300 Alex Alexander alex.alexan...@gmail.com wrote: @preserved-libs works very well and is awesome. hack or not. IMO it should be in stable already. I've been using it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should ${T} be defined in pkg_prepare ?

2012-03-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/31/2012 01:56 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Tiziano Müller wrote: and since pkg_pretend is run separately from the main phase function sequence, and does not participate in any kind of environment saving it is not guaranteed to be set to the same $T later. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-31 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:42:50AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote On 03/31/2012 06:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: About the wiki page, I can only document reiserfs+tail usage as it's the one I use and I know, about other alternatives like using squashfs, loop mount... I cannot promise anything as I

Re: [gentoo-dev] About suggesting to create a separate partition for portage tree in handbook

2012-03-31 Thread Zac Medico
On 03/31/2012 04:25 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:42:50AM -0700, Zac Medico wrote On 03/31/2012 06:34 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: About the wiki page, I can only document reiserfs+tail usage as it's the one I use and I know, about other alternatives like using squashfs, loop

Re: [gentoo-dev] automated bug filing (i.e. pybugz) failing because of missing token

2012-03-31 Thread William Hubbs
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:37:15PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 1:03 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:19:10PM +0200, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 3/26/12 7:20 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Paweł Hajdan,