[gentoo-dev] License groups in ebuilds

2012-05-10 Thread Ulrich Mueller
Long standing problem: Some of our most used license tags like GPL-2 are ambiguous, denoting either GPL-2 only or GPL-2 or later. One solution would be license groups in ebuilds, which could be added to EAPI 5 [1]. Disadvantage would be that they cannot be used in previous EAPIs. Alternatively,

Re: [gentoo-dev] License groups in ebuilds

2012-05-10 Thread Kent Fredric
On 10 May 2012 21:39, Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: . Are there any other licenses besides *GPL and FDL that would require such a file? I'd welcome groups so we can have a Perl_5 group. The lions share of modules published on CPAN are licensed Under the same license as Perl 5 Itself,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Greg KH schrieb: On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: Please stop throwing lennartware at people. FailAudio has been enough, thanks. The use of these terms is both rude and totally uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself. Seriously, that's unacceptable

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-sound/qsampler

2012-05-10 Thread Davide Pesavento
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Natanael Olaiz nol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here I attach a version that removes the eclass use. I then replaced a eqmake4 for qmake. I don't know if there is a better solution, but at least removes the deprecated eclass and hopefully the mask (the live ebuild

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-sound/qsampler

2012-05-10 Thread Ben
On 10 May 2012 05:42, Natanael Olaiz nol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here I attach a version that removes the eclass use. I then replaced a eqmake4 for qmake. I don't know if there is a better solution, but at least removes the deprecated eclass and hopefully the mask (the live ebuild is newer).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/10/2012 04:44 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Greg KH schrieb: No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to. There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to switch to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Olivier Crête
Hi, On Thu, 2012-05-10 at 06:34 +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I think expressing my own opinion about Lennart-made software is my right, after all. I would express my opinion about Fabio made software, but I've never heard of any. Firstly, it's almost impossible nowadays to avoid including

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-05-10 Thread Jim Ramsay
On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 11:23:48AM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: Jim? Sorry, I am behind on my gentoo-dev reading, thanks Matt for bringing this thread to my attention. Here are the two main concerns I've gathered from the rest of the thread: On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:04:08PM -0600, Ryan Hill

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in www-plugins/adobe-flash: metadata.xml adobe-flash-11.2.202.228.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-05-10 Thread Jim Ramsay
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 01:10:48PM -0400, Jim Ramsay wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 05:06:45PM -0300, Alexis Ballier wrote: wouldnt adding a sse2 useflag and putting it in REQUIRED_USE solve the problem ? afaik portage wont even try to upgrade if people have -sse2 This is an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread David Leverton
Greg KH wrote: No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to. There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to switch to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is stopping you. Or alternatively, the people who hate Unix could move

Re: [gentoo-dev] dropping support for linux-2.6.16 on glibc systems

2012-05-10 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 09.05.2012 15:47, schrieb Mike Frysinger: our glibc versions long ago stopped working with linux-2.4 due to NPTL being required. further, we've long set the min kernel version to 2.6.9 in the ebuild itself. so bumping it to 2.6.16 isn't a stretch. the driving force here is that glibc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Zac Medico
On 05/10/2012 11:57 AM, David Leverton wrote: Greg KH wrote: No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to. There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to switch to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is stopping you. Or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread David Leverton
Zac Medico wrote: Isn't it presumptuous to say that they hate Unix? Maybe their vision of how they'd like Unix to be is just different from yours? If how they'd like Unix to be goes so blatantly against its fundamental design principles then I think it's reasonable to say that they hate it.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/09/2012 07:51 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: I foresee a new udev fork then. If udev is going to end up like avahi is, this is *highly* probable. With avahi is ... I actually mean, one single tarball blob depending on the whole world and its

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 May 2012 20:55:02 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Make a constructive criticism if you really need to rant about software that nobody forces you to use. Not that I agree with anything Fabio has ever said, but I believe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 10 May 2012 20:59:40 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 10 May 2012 20:55:02 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Make a constructive criticism if you really need to rant about software

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 10 May 2012 22:13:33 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 20:55:02 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Make a constructive criticism if you really need to rant about software that nobody forces you to use. Not that I agree with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 10 May 2012 21:14:33 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 22:13:33 +0200 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2012 20:55:02 +0100 Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: Make a constructive criticism if you really

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-sound/qsampler

2012-05-10 Thread Natanael Olaiz
Hi, El 05/10/2012 03:07 PM, Ben escribió: On 10 May 2012 05:42, Natanael Olaiz nol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Here I attach a version that removes the eclass use. [...] Please check the comments on bug #380589. A new ebuild needs to: - use qt4-r2.eclass and EAPI=4 - be compatible with Qt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Fabio Erculiani
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 PM, Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I sincerely hope someone has hacked into your account and he is writing on your behalf. This sort of trash talk does not belong to a public Gentoo mailing list. Make a

Re: [gentoo-dev] dropping support for linux-2.6.16 on glibc systems

2012-05-10 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 10 May 2012 15:01:06 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 09.05.2012 15:47, schrieb Mike Frysinger: our glibc versions long ago stopped working with linux-2.4 due to NPTL being required. further, we've long set the min kernel version to 2.6.9 in the ebuild itself. so bumping it to 2.6.16

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Fabio Erculiani lx...@gentoo.org wrote: I think expressing my own opinion about Lennart-made software is my right, after all. Firstly, it's almost impossible nowadays to avoid including avahi, systemd and pulseaudio into a desktop distro so, there is no real

[gentoo-dev] Re: Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Duncan
Fabio Erculiani posted on Thu, 10 May 2012 22:48:29 +0200 as excerpted: On a side note, I find it quite odd to be accused of trash talking by Linux Kernel people. hwoarang is a kernel person? If you note, gregkh didn't post that. I can't agree with udev/systemd integration, but it's worth

[gentoo-dev] Re: Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012]

2012-05-10 Thread Duncan
Duncan posted on Fri, 11 May 2012 00:59:22 + as excerpted: Fabio Erculiani posted on Thu, 10 May 2012 22:48:29 +0200 as excerpted: On a side note, I find it quite odd to be accused of trash talking by Linux Kernel people. hwoarang is a kernel person? FWIW, I see the gregkh post you