Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/07/2012 11:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote: >>> I'm perfectly fine w/ ABI_SLOT and SLOT (I proposed a similar thing >>> in '06/'07); I'd however suggest ensuring there is some buy in fro

[gentoo-dev] RFC: vcs-snapshot-r1.eclass -- a better eclass for VCS snapshots (and others)

2012-06-07 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, As it was pointed out, vcs-snapshot is unable to handle multiple tarballs nicely. As fixing this would involve changing eclass API (and they are packages which are known to break thanks to it), I'm posting a new eclass for review. Of course, if the community insists, I could just update the

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 08:15:28PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:14:03 -0400 > Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > How is the case of something like libpng going to be handled, where we > > only support one API (and so only one

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/07/2012 12:24 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: >> On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: >>> El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: >> I would p

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 12:09 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 > >> Pacho Ramos wrote: > I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:14:03 -0400 Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > How is the case of something like libpng going to be handled, where we > only support one API (and so only one SLOT)? Either in the proposed > ABI_SLOT thing or when using slot operators?

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/06/12 03:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 Pacho Ramos >> wrote: I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on glib:2

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/07/2012 12:00 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: >> On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 >> Pacho Ramos wrote: I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more cases

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 19:44 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 > Pacho Ramos wrote: > > > I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on > > > glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more cases when more than > > > two slots are available

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:43:54 +0200 Pacho Ramos wrote: > > I would prefer, as a workaround, allow reverse deps to RDEPEND on > > glib:2.* instead. That way it would cover more cases when more than > > two slots are available > > Well, per: > http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/pms.git;a=

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 20:16 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió: > El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 11:03 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > > On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > > > Zac Medico wrote: > > >> I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/07/2012 11:13 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:47:19 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: >> On 06/06/2012 11:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:45:55 -0700 >>> Zac Medico wrote: Can you explain how Exherbo is handling dbus-glib rebuilds after glib:2

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/07/2012 11:04 AM, Ralph Sennhauser wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:47:19 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 06/06/2012 11:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:45:55 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > >> Can you explain how Exherbo is handling dbus-glib rebuilds after > >> glib:2 updates? > > > > Badly, most likely. > > And, I su

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 11:03 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > >> I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular > >> than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator d

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 20:04 +0200, Wulf C. Krueger escribió: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 07.06.2012 19:47, Zac Medico wrote: > > And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps, > > if they were available. > > No, we wouldn't. > > Best regards,

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:42:29 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > >> It seems like you're trying to make glib fit your SLOT operator > >> model, even though it's a natural fit for the ABI_SLOT operator > >> model. > > > > No, I'm trying to strongly encourage people to make proper use of > > slots to avoid h

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:03:25 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > > You're missing out on a brilliant opportunity to encourage > > developers put in a bit more work to save users a huge amount of > > pain here. > > What about cases like the dbus-glib and glib:2 dependency, where it's > just too much trouble

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07.06.2012 19:47, Zac Medico wrote: > And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps, > if they were available. No, we wouldn't. Best regards, Wulf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Usin

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ralph Sennhauser
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > >> On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200 > >>> Pacho Ramos wrote: > Well, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/07/2012 10:40 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: >> I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular >> than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator deps will accommodate >> the common practice of allowing ABI changes w

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 10:42 -0700, Zac Medico escribió: > On 06/06/2012 10:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:21:40 -0700 > > Zac Medico wrote: > >>> You'd have a slot per ABI, and be encouraged to allow multiple > >>> versions of glib to be installed in parallel. If you r

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 18:40 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh escribió: > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: > > I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular > > than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator deps will accommodate > > the common practice of al

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/06/2012 11:12 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:45:55 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: >> Can you explain how Exherbo is handling dbus-glib rebuilds after >> glib:2 updates? > > Badly, most likely. And, I suspect that they'd be handling with ABI_SLOT operator deps, if they were

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:43:32 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > I can imagine that ABI_SLOT operator deps will be a lot more popular > than SLOT operator deps, since ABI_SLOT operator deps will accommodate > the common practice of allowing ABI changes within a particular SLOT. You're missing out on a bril

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/06/2012 10:28 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 14:21:40 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: >>> You'd have a slot per ABI, and be encouraged to allow multiple >>> versions of glib to be installed in parallel. If you really >>> couldn't do that (and you should think very carefully befor

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/07/2012 01:24 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200 >>> Pacho Ramos wrote: Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would

Re: [gentoo-dev] x32 release candidate

2012-06-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 07 June 2012 02:13:16 Luca Barbato wrote: > On 07/06/12 05:17, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 June 2012 15:40:18 Gregory M. Turner wrote: > >> Is there a wiki or forum thread somewhere where folks can gloat and/or > >> commiserate? > > > > i haven't set up anything > > Shal

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/kid3: metadata.xml kid3-2.1.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-06-07 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 2012-06-07 23:06, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 06/07/2012 04:06 PM, Michael Palimaka (kensington) wrote: kensington 12/06/07 13:06:48 Modified: metadata.xml ChangeLog Added: kid3-2.1.ebuild Log: Version bump. Add upstream metadata. (Portage version: 2.1.10.65/cvs/Linux x86_64) Revision Change

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-sound/kid3: metadata.xml kid3-2.1.ebuild ChangeLog

2012-06-07 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 06/07/2012 04:06 PM, Michael Palimaka (kensington) wrote: kensington12/06/07 13:06:48 Modified: metadata.xml ChangeLog Added:kid3-2.1.ebuild Log: Version bump. Add upstream metadata. (Portage version: 2.1.10.65/cvs/Linux x86_64) Revision Chang

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 06-06-2012 a las 14:59 -0700, Brian Harring escribió: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 07:18:01PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > > On 06/05/2012 05:51 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > > > Is there any chance to detect this ZLIB_VERSION problem with > > > revdep-rebuild (worst case: add a list of possibly br

Re: [gentoo-dev] About forcing rebuilds of other packages issue

2012-06-07 Thread Brian Harring
On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 05:43:49PM -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > On 06/06/2012 12:23 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:16:05 +0200 > > Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> Well, I think reading this thread is more or less clear what it would > >> be supposed to do, also Zac suggested it and lo