Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: need net mis-use in init scripts

2012-10-19 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 8:40 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts? +1. I had a server become inaccessible recently because I took down one of the interfaces and it took sshd down with it. That's because there's also a problematic interaction with

Re: [gentoo-dev] reworking python-wrapper and wrapper scripts.

2012-10-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:12:55 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 11:54:21PM +0200, Micha?? G??rny wrote: On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:15:43 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: There's a trick to this; currently, those generated scripts hardcode

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: reworking python-wrapper and wrapper scripts.

2012-10-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 15:37:13 -0700 Brian Harring ferri...@gmail.com wrote: Offhand... and this makes it a bit more complex, but still tenuable imo, but we could get around this via shoving the symlink pathway into the shebang itself. scenario 1: Script gets installed for 2.7, 3.1, 3.2;

[gentoo-dev] eclass error-handling post-EAPI4

2012-10-19 Thread Gregory M. Turner
I'm cooking up some eclass functions and it occurred to me that perhaps I had some responsibility regarding EAPI4's new error handling semantics. After looking into it, it seems that, superficially, the answer to my question is no, the EAPI4 changes only apply to ebuild helpers. Even so,

Re: [gentoo-dev] eclass error-handling post-EAPI4

2012-10-19 Thread Zac Medico
On 10/19/2012 07:23 AM, Gregory M. Turner wrote: I'm cooking up some eclass functions and it occurred to me that perhaps I had some responsibility regarding EAPI4's new error handling semantics. After looking into it, it seems that, superficially, the answer to my question is no, the EAPI4

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El jue, 18-10-2012 a las 15:35 -0400, Rich Freeman escribió: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Personally I see no major difficult in moving to eapi4, what exact difficult are you (I mean people still sticking with eapi0/1) seeing? It is harder than cp.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is technically better, we need to try to get it used when possible (I mean, when, for example, eclasses are ported) for a QA reasoning. i think we all agree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 14:51 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is technically better, we need to try to get it used when possible (I mean, when, for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:09:15 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 14:51 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:21:52 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: [...] What I am trying to say is that, if we agree latest eapi is

[gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot .

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
Hello At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ., would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? Thanks for your opinions signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot .

2012-10-19 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 2:01 PM, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Hello At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ., would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? Thanks for your opinions I don't really see the advantage or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 15:47 -0300, Alexis Ballier escribió: [...] Because it will add even more work, I mean: - I catch a package using and old eapi and, then, still not passing --disable-silent-rules option. = First problem, I need to notice that package, there are packages I simply

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot .

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: Hello At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ., would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? Thanks for your opinions I dont know any such requirement from english nor german and neither do i see any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not knowing if developers agree on using latest eapi if possible. A more general solution

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Pacho Ramos
El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: Pacho Ramos schrieb: I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not knowing if developers

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot .

2012-10-19 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 21:01 +0200, Pacho Ramos wrote: Hello At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ., would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? Thanks for your opinions In English, it is also mandatory to end sentences in .

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot .

2012-10-19 Thread Michał Górny
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:01:57 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ., would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? In my opinion, descriptions should not be sentences. Sentences in English

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Thomas Sachau
Pacho Ramos schrieb: El vie, 19-10-2012 a las 21:43 +0200, Thomas Sachau escribió: Pacho Ramos schrieb: I volunteer to do whatever conversions you want for every ebuild I find if I have time... what prevents me from doing it is to commit that changes to ebuilds not maintained by me and not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Alexis Ballier
On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:53:18 +0200 Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote: Seriously, what people is still having problems with handling eapi4? If there are doubts about its usage, they should be asked and resolved instead of ignored keeping ebuilds with older eapis. The only eapi that probably

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Drop EAPI=0 requirement for system packages.

2012-10-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Thomas Sachau to...@gentoo.org wrote: This is not about having problems with handling eapi-X, this is just about limited time and the choice where to spend that time. If you do just a version bump, you often dont have to touch the ebuild at all, just copy,

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot .

2012-10-19 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 19/10/2012 21:36, Thomas Sachau ha scritto: Pacho Ramos schrieb: Hello At least in spanish, it's mandatory to end phrases with a dot ., would you agree with trying to enforce this trivial change with a repoman warning? Thanks for your opinions I dont know any such requirement from

Re: [gentoo-dev] About DESCRIPTION in ebuilds needing to end with a dot .

2012-10-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Sentences in English not only need to end with a dot but also require a subject and a predicate. Another repoman check? And don't forget the topic for Japanese. ducks